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The Sum of all Tiers
By: a Mars Society Patron on February 11th, 2018
Fore score and 17 trillion dollars ago, our Nation stood in parallel to Russia's prerogatives of a nation lording over
the planet, from outer space on down. Conquer space and you conquer the world, as so it's been told.
Since then, the aerospace industry has worked gleefully alongside every military expenditure, in the name of science.
Working harder and harder to achieve the goals of being cutting edge of any nation using the most highly engineered state of the art technologies that citizens, commercial, political, and the military currently take-for-granted.
Except for a "manager's grand view" of how to push-the-nuclear-button, on the road to supremacy, amongst "the many national flags of recognizable individuality". So much for the global effort of "one planet, one purpose, one language, one flag, one aim".
Today, the terms: interoperability and infrastructural diversity, are trendy catch phrases to usher aerospace "new comers" to hitch on the bandwagon of social media's "kickstarters of success" with "their version" of how to get there.
The current space-faring mindset pushes "smart technology" to escalate the making of micro cube-sat packages that are clever in their construction but extremely fragile against the onslaught of off-world environments.
This stack up of heightened technology awareness now presents: The Sum of all Tiers.
The Sum of all Tiers, denoting the many possible outcomes that never happen due to intellectual-risk-management.
Does it take a wonderful radical like Mr. Musk to show us how easy it is to throw mass from our gravity well?
The Falcon Heavy launch of February 6, 2018 epochs the next level of hipster achievement that challenges
The Outer Space Treaty of 1967. (a little refresher via google search is encouraged).
Test flight or not, an object has departed the Van Allen Belt of our Earth-Moon System with an un-calculated precision
to over-shoot the orbital insertion window to the Planet Mars.
Absolutely amazing how quickly the Tesla Roadster payload sheared several thousand layers of satellite traffic
without any incident of collision. Outer Space is amazing… until the Kessler Syndrome enters the picture.
All due respects are to be given to SpaceX for their bold-move-forward.
Which is more than I can say for nasa's consistent posturing of institutional administrative awareness.
Let's use our imagination with a small list of "what could have been".
1) The Red Dragon-Mars Direct-Sample-Return Mission.
2) Mars Society MDRS "Tracking the Tesla Simulated Supply Ship".
3) Designing Cube Sats with Real Magnetometers to picture the Water & Hydrocarbons in Asteroids.
4) Launching a Cube Sat from the Falcon 3rd Stage enroute to gathering Intel from the Asteroid Belt.
5) Position DSN Sats next to Stereo A & B for uninterrupted the "Mars Broadcast Network"
6) Utilize Amateur Radio in view of the Elser-Mathes Cup of 1927 ( google it up ).
7) Rovers with mandatory Magnetometers to see the Volcanic Vents on Mars for Habitats.
8) Reduce, or Amalgamate all these repeated programs, foundations, into ONE SPACE FARING PURPOSE.
These, and more, can be executed using the current state of the art that Robert Zubrin has already mentioned.
Seriously – The Intellectual Management of Space Programs becomes an oxymoron when the goal originally set forth is clouded with clever Executor "Business Speak" and/or "IT Speak".
Just present the information to be understood by one of your paid employees, or general lay people.
Simple to understand and execute ( like a farmer ).
This "Sum of all Tiers" means: The more you stack up technology to represent the human senses to see the worlds
beyond ours, the more translucent the result to mankind's perception of understanding.
Enough Said. Thank you for your attention.
"Miscalculated Endorphin"....
.... pops to mind amongst this cacophony of critical thunking.
Pardon my Occam's Razor approach.
I don't fancy ad hoc hypotheses, when the answer sparks from a single celled stimulus.
Humans' have the absolute power of choice, that is cleverly distracted by clever capitalism,
and detracting our Mother of Invention.
Your indication is seen by watching a 7 year old.
The solution is how well the child is malleable to learning a trade.
Trends of normalcy will follow with a continued desire to learn.
Disturb the congenital endorphin by substituting competition for reason,
and we're left with indigence.
Dave
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"What would James Slattin Martin Jr. do in this situation"?"
Truly Wished, James Slattin Martin Jr. was here to see this posting.
My mentor would have the same two words to sum up this gambit.
Opportunity Circus
The Best Action Plan Is The One At The Launch Pad Ready For Departure.
So, where is it?
Good Morning,
Apologies for the delay... had domestics here.
I did not keep an exact record, recalling one was sent to: abstracts@marssociety.org
Though, my wordiness might have been misconstrued, it could've been put on the bottom of the stack.
Sending to you and Dr. Zubrin was a means of 2 and 3 point integrity of getting the message through.
Please, all of you here reading this, pardon my non-collegiate style of verbiage.
Because I might lack the precise contextual connotation as expected, does not mean; casted out or dismissed.
Although, I do make a really good long list of questions, yeah? ( lol )
At any rate and/or method, I hope some of the questions asked, might be actually asked at the convention.
Thank you James, and Robert Dyck. You've been most kind.
I truly hope Bob Zubrin is reading these comments-upon-comments.
Dr. Zubrin,
The recent FMARS 160 has a participant who
is a member of the "MDRS CAPCOM Program".
In your words, can you tell us what that program is, please?
It's the "position" I was on about, kind sir.
That should've been obvious.
Not a problem if the nasa peeple actually extend their vision beyond-the-box.
This is my most favorite webpage ---> http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/wsa-e … prediction
The Enlil Solar Wind Predictor.
Note that Stereo A & B Satellites are always communicating.
So, plan the MTOs near these positions and never lose sight of data.
...it merely takes longer on the round trip.
Meanwhile....
Let's REMEMBER our history and not replicate this conflagration for Mars.
Yet another cog of the dynamic space mechanism is the certainty of a complete mission.
Until a high speed object of sufficient mass, decimates the spacecraft's hull integrity
and surgically removes the soul from any of its Crew Members.
The mere mention of Don Kessler (nasa) should be unnerving to the Space Faring Enthusiast.
Kessler Syndrome is the "collision cascading" of any two orbiting objects, dispersing a lethal layer around
our planet and impeding the interplanetary passage of humans traversing safely to and from Mars.
The same is equally obvious for the Red Planet.
Currently, 14 objects are orbiting Mars...
Mars-2, launched 1971 May 19, USSR, inactive
Mars-3, launched 1971 May 28, USSR, inactive
Mariner 9, launched 1971 May 30, USA, inactive
Mars-5, launched 1973 July 25, USSR, inactive
Viking 1, launched 1975 August 20, USA, inactive
Viking 2, launched 1975 September 9, USA, inactive
Phobos-2, launched 1988 July 12, USSR, inactive
Mars Global Surveyor, launched 1996 November 7, USA, inactive
2001 Mars Odyssey, launched 2001 April 7, USA, active
Mars Express, launched 2003 June 2, ESA, active
Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, launched 2005 August 12, USA, active
Mars Orbiter Mission (MOM) or Mangalyaan, launched 2013 November 5, India, active
Mars Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution (MAVEN), USA, active
ExoMars Trace Gas Orbiter, launched 2016 March 14, ESA and Russia, active
All space agencies are tracking everything that is known in Mars' proximity.
Between now and then, the theories of de-orbiting look good on paper.
Until an anomaly says otherwise.
Mars is not protected by the Inverse Square Law when impeding space weather bears down from
the occasional plasma bursts. The physical effects of a Solar Anemometer is proof of that.
Perturbations of orbit will occur, and there's little control from our end.
So the question is presented... how much more cost-effectively-smarter of probes will we send, in order to
do more with less hardware at location?
Pardon the grammar...
"DigiLens is "a compatible" system with bluetooth and wi-fi.
The Digi' has the full AR capabilities.
Truly amazing, our present day "google apps" run the full gamut of IP/Bluetooth.
The EVA Suits could even be fitted with a wrist communicator and Telemetry HMI...
Surprised the MDRS/FMARS "Medical Teams" haven't used that technique 14 years ago.
Dr. Zubrin,
Given that we are graced with current state-of-the-art, at lower prices...
...could our Analog EVA Suit Helmets' ever be upgraded with something
similar to the DigiLens System, recently released?
In One Hundred Years Time....
Our pathetic Earth will be so wrapped in self-inflicted righteousness, that a new faction will rise, begging to
depart this world for a fresh virgin start.
Far beyond Kim Stanley Robinson's socially contaminated journals of human-ape, ala: future-tense.
- The Visionaries see this adventure as an answer to Extinction Event Integrity.
- Politicians' view this as "Leverage of Wealth versus Class of Citizen".
- The Millennial Snowflakes embrace this as an extension of their "individuality"
- Religion becomes a Day Care Center for Families Left Behind.
- The Final Carbon Foot-Print damages present Earthers' into the new age of hatred for Mars.
- News Media sharpens their wicks and assumes control of trend direction.
And... oh look... we've totally forgotten yet another franchise possibility of: Pure Martian Soda Pop or Aerian Seltzer Water. or... pardon the pun... "Martisian Spring Water"....
This ought to put the Millennial Hipster Crowd, just barking for more, yeah?
I do not "thinkie thinkie" this.
These things will happen first and foremost due to the lack of education quotas & natural interests.
Yes.... some "intangible assets" contain key values to future marketable upward trends.
Dr. Zubrin,
Would you entertain a program to revive all retired and abandoned Radio Telescopes and,
have them Re-Purposed for Telecommunications for Mars?
Thank you Robert... truly,
Almost shed a few tears before reading the end of your posting.
To be asked by you, Robert, and other professionals is taken personally.
( getting a James Stewart - It's a Wonderful Life sort of feeling here )
Would not hesitate to engage into a session, if I wasn't stuck at this location.
I can not just pop onto a plane and go.... David is indigent.... literally.
Had been asked about a teaching profession, though I don't fancy tenure.
Going to Mars is easier.
David is not barred from the freedoms to build devices and influence.
It's age discrimination thwarting a good job that prevents my freedom to roam about.
Funny though... I prefer driving cross-country and enjoying the landscape.
To actually be there at the convention and speaking my call for paper.
Is like; unleashing Patch Adams to cure the Black Plague ( well, it sounded cool ).
I'd be lucky just to get a call from Dr. Zubrin.
Truly.... thank you Robert.
Dr. Zubrin,
Understood, our Society is limited in function owing to volunteers,
It's nice that the MDRS Team update "their info" on facebook and the MDRS website.
Once in a while I like to ask the Crew Members a question.
Usually about what they're doing or, what are the results of their experiments.
So... "who ever" is answering back on facebook.... isn't.... in any way, shape, or form.
Is there someone in charge I can have these questions passed though WITHOUT OPINION or BIAS?
Please pardon....
An obvious question, if I may...
Are the intellectually ecumenical environmentalists' calculating the "Ice Melt" for
that Volume of Ice THAT IS ABOVE THE WATER LINE ?
Hello Nick,
Their Quarterly is freely available.
( http://members.marssociety.org/TMQ/ )
ONLY When.... It's Available
But, it's not quarterly...it stopped at May, 2013.
A "Martian Quarterly" of every 6 months... would be optional.
I'd even settle for a Sidereal Quatrain ( That Was Funny ).
Right now it's....sort of... stopped in Time.
My posting is a CALL OUT to the Quarterly People, pleading to resume.
This pleading also goes out to all of us who desire to see it active by
submitting articles of interest, to make the Quarterly re-born.
This NewMars Forum is a GooGooPlex of Articles they could use.
When we speak of SCADA and DAQ, that includes TELEMETRY.
In our Case for Mars, "wireless is absolute and essential".
A back up plan uses a Suit-to-Suit wire link or Suit-to-Capsule connect.
(ALWAYS have a back up plan)
Voice Activated communications is needed while BOTH HANDS are busy with tasks at hand.
I've addressed these "issues" with Dr. Zubrin because our Staff has not responded, nor
would entertain the use of efficient communications...
Much less, communicating to all the other analog stations on our own planet.
At the time of this writing (June 2017), it is plainly seen, that we have a load of choices and opportunities
for equipping & using state-of-the-art wi-fi devices THAT ARE DEPENDABLE AND TIME PROVEN.
For remote operation, the PixHawk Autonomy gives you the best package for a frugal price.
( http://pixhawk.org/modules/pixhawk )
This unit has been used on Sea-Land-Air and quite possibly near-space.
Since I do not know "the current people" who are responsible for the EVA Suits and
MDRS Operations ( IE: "engineers'), it is a request for them to consider upgrades to Suit Comms, Bio Telemetry,
and Rover / Autonomy Control features, while out in the fields.
.. this just in..... Planetary Protection "Presumptions"
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/06 … ly-ignored
This is what happens when "intellectualism" takes control.
And Dr. Zubrin hits the nail on their head for good reason.
Thank you, Robert...
Quite the altruistic Video....
if you abide by: "explanationism" (yeah, that's a brand new word, hey)
Our Millennial Generation are too young to be tired of Life.
The "Snowflake generation" has been forged from the war of Hipsters vs. High Fructose Corn Syrup.
Curiosity is lost.
The internet provides all the ecumenical answers.
No need to communicate beyond the emoji.
Our "6th Grade Reader Rap" is Gospel.
Right Boys' & Girls?
And still, we compound endless expressionism's on youtube, like a TED talk.
"... message conveyed... no one remembers..."
So, our savant social media needs a daily 911. Something that humbles
their precious pride, that was handed to them on a silver platter.
Going beyond "naked & afraid".
This makes our jobs in preparing future off-world settlement: fruitless and, a joke.
( emphasis on: our jobs )
The Clues...
- Parents: with their perfectionism for their perfect kids.
- Workforce management: with their animal husbandry in the work place.
- CEOs: with their Michaelavelean mindset.
- Media: And their clever & subliminal trends of diversion.
- Money Markets: An endless farrago of financial value above long-term development.
- Schools: with their ever so precious Tenure and cock-sure smirks of job security.
This IS NOT my "philosophy", but simple observation.
I was more entertained being a high school drop out who'd self learned spherical trigonometry
to circumnavigate all dimensions of the world - based on one tiny simple word:
Curiosity
This looks a good spot to put the Article Link into.
http://www.livescience.com/59130-nasa-3 … wards.html
Since this Topic mentions SHELTER....
Interesting...
- Chloroplasts in Plastic Bags
- Plastic Bags made from Petroleum
- Petroleum from Crude Oil
- Something that reacts with Crude Oil
Question...
Could the adding of Kerogens aid in either containment or migration
of organic transfers?
Merely asking a question here...
Plastic Bags were the Key Words.
This is an interesting list.
Thank you 'Nut for addressing Louis' query.
We all ponder on what the best science is, outside of nasa's limelight.
Their approach has been superficial and straining for answers found at 4cm depth.
On our planet, every means and technique of how we look at ourselves with
geodesics, magnetometrics, magnetometallurics, and tomography are time-proven.
As I'm typing this, the shadow of Jim Martin Jr. is directly behind me.
"What would Jim do?" of how to approach solving the first obstacle(s).
We would most likely desire to achieve several major tasks, packed into
one unmanned Autonomous Lander / Launcher / Sample Return.
We have the means to scale down a "Geodesics Package" to actually purvey a
more meaningful answer of "soil signatures" of depths of about 200 feet.
There are ISRU devices to be put to work and prove to us that a return craft
can actually refuel and prep for launch.
Actually prototyping a working model and get past this one plight.
Make this a mission driven directive and watch it unfold.
Precisely, Gentlemen....
What better way than the Red Dragon Direct Sample Return
That seriously needs an acronym... lol