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#126 Re: Life support systems » Bogs and Bog, Floating Island Technology, and Roller Solar. » 2026-02-07 09:44:14
The idea of using large bodies of water as bearings is an interesting one, but they are at times very turbulent. And Mars does not at this time have larger bodies of water. So, I think to use water as a bearing internal to land. And I hope to introduce processes on Earth that might be translatable to Mars.
I don't actually like to pick on little girls, but I am eager to have human civilization depart from "Gretta-Land".
While the Aerobic side interests me, I am also very interested in what the Anaerobic side H2/CO2 can do for us. Problems with Hydrogen are storage, and generation of it from water. It is my impression that it is easier to split Methane than it is to split water.
https://www.pnnl.gov/news-media/new-cle … -emissions
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Researchers from Pacific Northwest National Laboratory (PNNL) and West Virginia University (WVU), in collaboration with industry partners Southern California Gas Company (SoCalGas) and C4-MCP, have developed a process that converts methane—the primary component of natural gas—into hydrogen while emitting zero CO2. The process also creates carbon solids for manufacturing applications.
So, the above may solve the creation of Hydrogen and the creation of Carbon Solids for structures and machine parts.
The Hydrogen might then be dissolved into pontoons of water to foster the growth of Methanogens which will produce Methane. So, we can rotate the Hydrogen molecules back and forth between these two processes.
Hydrogen solubility in water is rather low, so you might put your compressed Hydrogen tanks inside of the pontoons of water. That way generally Hydrogen that leaks from such a storage will be delivered to the Methanogens over time. The Hydrogen tanks then become "Hydrogen Capacitors".
The Methanogens can be put to work to make things other than Methane.
-Precision Fermentation
-Cellular Agriculture
-Biomining
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methanogen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision_fermentation
Promising approach to sustainable food production
Precision fermentation with hydrogen is a promising approach to sustainable food production. Aerobic hydrogen-oxidising bacteria (HOBs) convert atmospheric CO2 and green hydrogen into biomass via gas fermentation, a process already used for food-grade single-cell protein production. This method requires minimal land and water, offering a supply chain independent of agriculture and with potential for carbon-neutral production and carbon capture. To expand beyond single-cell protein, HOBs must be engineered into cell factories for precision fermentation. Advances in synthetic biology, metabolic engineering, computational modeling, and bioreactor design are accelerating the development of scalable bioprocesses for gas-based fermentation.
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Precision fermentation is a production process in which specific biological molecules are manufactured using microorganisms. It can be used to produce food ingredients that are conventionally sourced from animals and plants, including proteins, lipids, carbohydrates, and other metabolites. Bacteria, yeast, or other cell types produce large quantities of a specific compound which is then extracted and purified from the fermentation broth or cell lysate.[1] For example, milk or egg proteins, dairy fats, functional oligosaccharides, flavour and colour compounds or vitamins.[2]
So, now the atmosphere itself becomes a universal pipeline that delivers CO2 to any surface location on Earth, Mars, or Venus. Of course the Surface of Venus is hopeless, but there is hope at altitude.
So, now we do not suffer if someone burns coal, but we might benefit.
In the case of Earth, we might draw down the CO2 to bring on an ice age, but then beam extra solar power from space, to compensate for the loss of insulation. So, then artificially controlling the climate.
Purposely thawing the North with imported power and letting Antarctica pull water out of the oceans to make ice. And then developing the technology to life on and in the ice of Antarctica.
Simply options, not mandates.
But in an imaginary future we might draw down the oceans to Ice Age levels if that was desired.
For Mars, imported power from space may help to improve the conditions, allowing at least mostly covered lakes and seas.
Here again if you have various sized floating Lilly pad solar installations that cover 90%/95%/99% of the water, and active irrigation, significant bodies of water may be made possible even with a relatively low atmospheric pressure.
Again, harvesting the CO2 you might make Carbon Structures. You would need to replace the CO2 with other gasses over time to maintain the atmospheric pressure.
I suggest processing the moons of Mars and the rocks of Mars to produce more Oxygen for the purpose. Then also moving asteroids into the orbits of Mars to process them as well.
Someday then to import Nitrogen from some source or to recover it from underground if there is some in the deep water in the crust.
For Venus I am hoping that Carbon and/or other structures may be extracted from the atmosphere to make floating structures.
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#127 Re: Life support systems » Bogs and Bog, Floating Island Technology, and Roller Solar. » 2026-02-06 22:06:28
Such ideas are worthy of continuing efforts, I feel.
I am also interested in perhaps extracting minerals from water. I am considering H2/CO2 to power microbes that might do that as well as generating Methane. Then you might get the mineral and the Carbon to make parts from.
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#128 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Black Holes » 2026-02-06 21:30:08
Exploded Primordial Black Hole?
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … &FORM=VIRE
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We Just Saw a Black Hole Explode — It Changes Everything
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I think I understand a little and wonder.
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#129 Re: Life support systems » Bogs and Bog, Floating Island Technology, and Roller Solar. » 2026-02-06 11:28:15
So, if Carbon is to be a "New Metal", where the production of Carbon parts is enhanced in ability and price, Stainless Steel may have a bit of a competitor.
Don't get me wrong, I can see the value of Superheavy being Stainless Steel, and that reusable Starship needs to be Stainless Steel.
But for craft that do not need to aerobrake, then perhaps in some cases Carbon will be a useful choice. This could include interworld spacecraft and also perhaps a new version of aa expendable Starship.
At some point it might become possible to replace Stainless Steel with Carbon for the upper parts of an Expendable Starship. Pushing it even father, then even the propellant tanks. The engines might be mostly the only parts reused. The ship might go to orbit and be taken apart with the Carbon portions staying in orbit and things like the engines being brought back down with a Stainless-Steel Starship type.
The point is the Stainless-Steel Starship when it is more developed will be a fantastic system, but if you could drop the dry mass for Expendables that might be a good asset also.
But it would be a thing for the future, when the Carbon tech is more developed.
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#130 Re: Life support systems » Bogs and Bog, Floating Island Technology, and Roller Solar. » 2026-02-06 10:25:44
So, for marginal places like brine lakes, or even just desert, two different processes might be done:
1)-Aerobic
2)-Anerobic
1) Aerobic: Acetate/Oxygen
2) Anerobic: Hydrogen/CO2
These can be done in the shade, as plastic tends to deteriorate under sunlight.
The #1 Aerobic, has recently been discovered as possible:
https://www.snexplores.org/article/inno … ts-in-dark
https://www.biotechniques.com/plant-cli … -sunlight/
So, Aerobic can be single cell and multicellular.
The #2 Anerobic as far as I know these are all single cell organisms.
For #1, Yeast is said to be 18x more efficient than photosynthesis.
For #1, Algae is said to be 4x more efficient than photosynthesis.
* It is hard to know if Macro-Algae also work well with Acetate and Oxygen.
* We can hope that multicellular plants might be adaptive to Acetate and Oxygen.
* I have an interest in the domestication of some large plants for this purpose. Macro-Algae such as Sargasso Seaweed, Hydrilla, Duckweed. Duckweed will need an air layer in the flotation bladders.
For #2 as far as I know all the organisms are single cell. I wonder if gene editing could create multicellular that can live on Hydrogen/CO2.
This might scare some people, but there is no natural environment on Earth of any scale where these could go "Feral". IF you could create vegetables that could life off of Hydrogen/CO2.
At any rate, I think that the Hydrogen cycle is more economic as per energy than is the Oxygen cycle. And might be very useful in capturing CO2 out of the environment.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs … 719e2f6ea5
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Electrochemical Splitting of Methane in Molten Salts To Produce Hydrogen - Fan - 2021 - Angewandte Chemie International Edition - Wiley Online Library
Electrolysis of methane involves the electrochemical splitting of methane to produce hydrogen and solid carbon, offering a cleaner alternative to traditional hydrogen production methods.
Overview of Electrolysis of Methane
Electrolysis of methane is a process that can be used to convert methane (CH₄) into hydrogen (H₂) and solid carbon (C) through an electrochemical reaction. This method is considered more environmentally friendly compared to conventional methods like methane steam reforming, which typically results in significant carbon emissions.
Process Description
Electrochemical Reaction: In the electrolysis of methane, methane is oxidized at the anode, producing hydrogen gas and carbon dioxide. The carbon dioxide can be captured and reduced to solid carbon at the cathode. This separation of hydrogen generation and carbon deposition allows for a cleaner process with minimal emissions.
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Temperature and Conditions: The process can be conducted at elevated temperatures, such as 500 °C, in molten salts, which helps in reducing energy consumption and avoiding coke formation that can occur in traditional methods.
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Efficiency: The electrochemical splitting of methane has been shown to have a lower equivalent carbon emission compared to methane steam reforming and requires less energy input than alkaline water electrolysis.
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Applications and Benefits
Hydrogen Production: The hydrogen produced can be used as a clean fuel for fuel cells or as a feedstock for various chemical processes.
Carbon Management: The solid carbon produced can potentially be utilized in various applications, reducing the overall carbon footprint of methane utilization.
Integration with Renewable Energy: This process can be integrated with renewable energy sources, making it a viable option for sustainable hydrogen production.
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Conclusion
The electrolysis of methane presents a promising pathway for producing hydrogen while managing carbon emissions effectively. As research and technology advance, this method could play a significant role in the transition to cleaner energy systems. Further developments in reactor design and catalyst efficiency are essential for optimizing this process and making it commercially viable.wiley.com
So, we can then look at making Carbon products: https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=11299
"Index» Life support systems» Carbon is the New Metal"
So, in this process a byproduct could be Precision Fermentation Products, and also perhaps Cellular Food Production.
I think this #2 Anerobic cycle will be rather energy efficient.
And this solar process would not have to be connected to a grid, although it could be. So, if in a desert, in a brine pool, the sunshine may be as predictable as can be on the Earth, I believe. So,you could run the process mostly when the sun shines, and not so much when it does not shine.
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#131 Re: Life support systems » Bogs and Bog, Floating Island Technology, and Roller Solar. » 2026-02-05 12:28:43
About Microplastics. Of course I like this as it favors my views: https://backreaction.blogspot.com/2026/ … -says.html Quote:
Wednesday, February 04, 2026
Microplastics: What the Evidence Really Says
You’ve probably seen the headlines about microplastics, which claim that the micrometer-scale bits of plastic are everywhere, causing a wide variety of health issues. But while the headlines get more and more extreme, the scientific research on microplastics doesn’t actually support the media’s claims. Let’s take a look.
My own view of the process of civilization is that it turns wine into vinegar. At first the wilderness people create civilization which is sweet. They can do so, because the wilderness has given them "Blue Collar Skills". But they have enough verbal skills as well to share with each other on plans.
The Vinegar stage gives us the "Verbal and Violent" who displace the genes and memes of the more useful people of transition from wilderness to initial "Sweet" civilization.
From there survival of genes and memes depends more and more on predation from the Vinegar people, upon the wealth and life's of the productivity of the transition people.
The Industrial Revolution gave us a reprieve form the total power of the Vinegar people.
And they, the Vinegar People have been struggling to take us as slaves again all along.
So, the made untruth about fracking, and then about plastics, and then microplastics.
Anything to stifle "Blue Collar Power" and to promote green plantation owners where little by little the useful genes and memes can be replaced by "Vinegar" versions.
So, it is so stupid to worry about microplastics, when they come from the fabrics we use and also from things like car tires.
The author above seems to have a very good mind. That is a form of relief from the general "Vinegar" stupidity we usually have to deal with.
https://iee.psu.edu/news/blog/microplas … t-yourself
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Microplastics originate from various sources, including the breakdown of larger plastic items, synthetic textiles, vehicle tires, and personal care products.
Key Sources of Microplastics
Breakdown of Larger Plastics: Microplastics can form when larger plastic debris, such as bottles and bags, degrade into smaller fragments due to environmental factors like sunlight, friction, and weathering. This process creates what are known as secondary microplastics.
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Synthetic Textiles: Washing synthetic clothing releases thousands of microfibers into wastewater. These microfibers are a significant contributor to microplastic pollution, as they can enter water systems and eventually the food chain.
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Vehicle Tires: As tires wear down, they shed tiny particles that contribute to microplastic pollution. It is estimated that tire wear accounts for a substantial percentage of microplastics released into the environment.
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Personal Care Products: Many personal care items, such as exfoliating scrubs and toothpaste, have historically contained microbeads—tiny plastic particles designed for scrubbing. Although many countries have banned these, they still contribute to microplastic pollution.
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Household Items: Everyday items like plastic chopping boards and microwavable containers can leach microplastics into food, especially when heated. This highlights the pervasive nature of microplastics in our daily lives.
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Urban Dust and Road Markings: Microplastics can also be found in urban dust, which is a mix of various particles, including those from road markings and construction materials.
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Microplastics are a widespread environmental issue, originating from a variety of sources, including the breakdown of larger plastics, synthetic textiles, vehicle tires, and personal care products. Their presence in the environment raises concerns about their impact on ecosystems and human health. Understanding these sources is crucial for developing strategies to mitigate microplastic pollution.
Communism and Fascism will not protect you from the "Verbal and Violent" "Vinegars". In fact these are special roads to "Vinegar Hell".
My intentions are to have plastic pontoons that support solar equipment. I intend that the plastics will generally be shielded from things that make them break down, such as Ultraviolet Light.
I microplastics go into the water, I am hoping that they may settle into the sediments of such a body of water.
Anyway the great hope is that space may provide a useful wilderness for our people to provide habitat for their escape from the "Verbal and Violent Vinegars".
This then perhaps to forestall the death of the human mind from the process of the Vinegars.
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#132 Re: Life support systems » Bogs and Bog, Floating Island Technology, and Roller Solar. » 2026-02-05 10:43:45
Here then is a "Water Pontoon" scheme: 
If you were to suppress the wave mixing action of the Salton Sea, you might turn the whole thing into a solar salt pond.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_pond
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Solar Salt Pond
A solar salt pond is a large body of saltwater that collects and stores solar thermal energy, providing a sustainable source of heat and power. The process involves evaporating water out of brine using sunlight, leaving behind pure sodium chloride crystals as residue. This method is known for its high purity and is used in various applications, including water softening, cooking, and as a general-purpose seasoning. Solar salt ponds are particularly attractive for rural areas in developing countries due to their ability to harness solar energy for electricity generation and other thermal energy uses.
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With most of the body of water, such as the Salton Sea covered in floating island for solar energy and also bio-farming, the waves suppressed, so then mixing suppressed, you intentionally use heat pumps to extract heat from the upper waters and add it to the lower waters. You also induce salt gradients.
Having done this then the upper waters may be suitable for fish to live in as you have pushed some of the salt down to the bottom of the reservoir.
And when convenient you might then extract the heat for some process you desire to maintain. You actually might be able to run a heat engine from it even.
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When the sun's rays contact the bottom of a shallow pool, they heat the water adjacent to the bottom. When water at the bottom of the pool is heated, it becomes less dense than the cooler water above it, and convection begins. Solar ponds heat water by impeding this convection. Salt is added to the water until the lower layers of water become completely saturated. High-salinity water at the bottom of the pond does not mix readily with the low-salinity water above it, so when the bottom layer of water is heated, convection occurs separately in the bottom and top layers, with only mild mixing between the two. This greatly reduces heat loss, and allows for the high-salinity water to get up to 90 °C while maintaining 30 °C low-salinity water.[1] This hot, salty water can then be pumped away for use in electricity generation, through a turbine or as a source of thermal energy.
This is perhaps a case where at times your heat pumps might extract heat from the solar panels in addition to the electricity generated. Then to heat the bottom water. Then at night the solar panels to behave as radiators, and again if desired to reject heat into the solar panels using a heat pump system. To some extent this may extract energy from the day/night cycle.
A very important sub-part of this is to extract CO2 from the air directly or indirectly from the Salton Sea.
So, then to use it to produce plastics and Carbon products, and to regulate the climate of a planet.
For Mars this may be possible when the entire amount of CO2 available is vaporized into the atmosphere, but certain revisions of method may be needed.
For Mars, it can be expected that the process will leak Hydrocarbons into the atmosphere which would be assistive to further terraform the planet.
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#133 Re: Not So Free Chat » Greenland » 2026-02-04 22:42:10
I will call this video "Interesting": https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … &FORM=VIRE Quote:
'Trump defeated Europe over Greenland. Now Starmer will fall'
YouTube
GBNews
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I will view it another time.
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#134 Re: Life support systems » Bogs and Bog, Floating Island Technology, and Roller Solar. » 2026-02-04 21:40:15
So, actually I was a hurry on the last post. I believe that microbes that you might feed CO2 and H2, will create Methane and the other products of their metabolism.
https://news.berkeley.edu/2025/08/14/sc … f-methane/
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Methanogens
Microbes that eat hydrogen and create methane include methanogens, which are anaerobic archaea that produce methane as a byproduct of their energy metabolism. They thrive in oxygen-free environments such as wetlands, rice fields, and the digestive tracts of animals. Methanogens utilize hydrogen, carbon dioxide, and other organic compounds to generate methane through a process called methanogenesis, which is a form of anaerobic respiration.
University of California, Berkeley
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So, energy-wise, I believe that it is easier to split Methane with electrolysis than it is to split water.
So, this anerobic process could be used in Precision Fermentation and also Cellular Agriculture, I believe.
I think the process could be useful in creating Carbon products and also in making plastics.
And I think this could work on Mars with some alterations.
If the ability to build Carbon products is a thing that keeps growing, then Venus would be valuable for both Nitrogen and Carbon, provided that the products would be useful in the atmosphere, or if some method to lift things to orbit on Venus emerges.
And then as you go our in the solar system to the Outer Asteroid Belt, Carbon is plenty, and then also presumed to be in the moons of the outer planets, and part of Pluto and other dwarf planets.
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#135 Re: Life support systems » Bogs and Bog, Floating Island Technology, and Roller Solar. » 2026-02-04 14:08:33
Repeating materials but I hope to show things even better: https://www.youtube.com/live/DVhJQ0WDv2s
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Carbon is the New Metal
As I understand it they are splitting Methane (CH4) to produce their Carbon products and end up with Hydrogen as a byproduct.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision_fermentation
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Precision fermentation - Wikipedia
Precision fermentation is a biotechnology process that uses microorganisms, such as bacteria, fungi, or yeasts, to produce specific biological molecules. This method involves rewriting the DNA of these microorganisms to "brew" ingredients that are molecularly identical to those found in nature, allowing for the production of food ingredients without the need for traditional farming. It is used to create high-value compounds like proteins, enzymes, and biofuels, ensuring high yields and purity. Historically, precision fermentation has been utilized for decades to produce common ingredients like rennet and citric acid.
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Precision Fermentation can be done with Hydrogen and Atmospheric CO2:https://www.biologie.rwth-aachen.de/cms/biologie/forschung/fachbereiche/publikationen/~fmtva/details/?file=1021396&lidx=1
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Precision fermentation with hydrogen is a promising approach in biotechnology, particularly in food production. This method utilizes genetically engineered microorganisms to produce high-value biomolecules, such as proteins and pharmaceuticals, with high yield and purity. The process involves several interconnected stages, including strain development, upstream fermentation, downstream purification, and final formulation. Precision fermentation is particularly beneficial for producing smaller biologic modalities, such as peptides and antibody fragments, due to its cost-effectiveness and efficiency across various scales.
biologie.rwth-aachen.dePrecision fermentation with hydrogen is expected to play a significant role in sustainable nutrition and the development of next-generation therapeutics. By leveraging microbial fermentation, this technology can create climate-friendly dairy alternatives, next-gen therapeutics, and circular materials, aligning with global sustainability goals.
Pharma's Almanac
Cellular Agriculture may be similar in production.
Biogas could come from either a digester or using pyrolysis.
https://www.motherearthnews.com/sustain … z14aszrob/
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Make a Biogas Generator to Produce Your Own Natural Gas
Transform grass clippings, food waste and livestock manure into renewable energy via a homemade biogas generator.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrolysis
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(PDF) Safety assessment of the process RE‐PET, based on EREMA Basic technology, used to recycle post‐consumer PET into food contact materials
Pyrolysis is a thermochemical process that involves the heating of organic materials in the absence of oxygen, leading to their decomposition. This process produces valuable products such as gases, liquids (like bio-oil), and solids (like char). Pyrolysis is particularly useful for treating various organic materials, including biomass, plastics, and hazardous waste, as it can break down complex compounds into simpler substances. The process typically occurs at high temperatures, often above 500 °C, and is applied in fields such as energy production, recycling, and waste management.
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So, you might have to electrolyze some water as well to keep the Hydrogen content up, but you could run this process inside of plastic bags filled with fresh or salty water that float on top of salty bodies of water.
And you may be able to make floating islands that you can put solar power equipment on to generate the needed electricity.
Those islands might be able to rotate to follow the sun east to west, and the panels may be linked together like window blinds to also follow the sunup and down.
Many salty reservoirs might be possible to build on desert shorelines of the oceans and also inland, in marginal land.
So, the process may generate products from precision fermentation and Cellular Agriculture, and to pull CO2 from the atmosphere.
If so, then it may be practical to burn all the hydrocarbons that can be found and accessed.
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#136 Re: Not So Free Chat » Greenland » 2026-02-04 09:47:55
This is how I analyze reality: 
I do not like the China claim to be part of a "Global South".
I have given both Africa (Sub Saharan), and China, the option to be the top or lower box. If you actually made the cubic "Globe", you could put one of them in each of the two boxes.
I regard the middle east as "Burned Out Territory". Civilization has made them too dependent on the verbal and violent for the method that they earn their wealth. Allowing the wrong types to breed excessively. (My opinion as a theory).
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#137 Re: Not So Free Chat » Copper, Silver, and other Metals » 2026-02-04 09:06:33
Carbon may be a partial option it appears: https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files … tors_0.pdf Quote:
Carbon Conductors
for Lightweight
Motors and
Generators
Enabling increased motor efficiency
using a novel high electrical
conductivity carbon nanotube
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I also started this topic: https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=11299
"Index» Life support systems» Carbon is the New Metal"
So, it may be that power lines can be gradually replaced with Carbon and the metals harvested from them.
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#138 Re: Not So Free Chat » Greenland » 2026-02-04 08:35:43
I gave the Anglicans and by default some other religious authorities a reprimand, as if they are actually Christians, they can take it, and will not retaliate. In turn it is somewhat reasonable that they express their concerns about the actions of some powerful people in our country.
I only study the claims of the Promethean action people.
Their descriptions of reality to some extent ring true.
I am reasonably convinced that the underworld and many espionage networks around the world often swim in the same dirty waters.
The first thing that any spy agency does to penetrate another nation, or group is to seek out the criminal elements of that society.
I do at this point think that the "British Invasion" of America was actual, in the 60's and so on. The drugs, the sex, the promoted stars. Most people think that the important thing about Jeffrey Epstein was associated with sex with the wrong female type. But what way to find the holes in the morality of a society, and to get a handhold on events.
The British are criticized for the Opium wars. But it seems that China participates on the assault on America from drug economics now. That is a stain on their claims to being innocent victims.
Troublesome money it is. It becomes obvious that our "Friends" have been stabbing us in the back and collaborating with competitor powers.
For instance, Fracking. Why did the left and the Europeans, do such an outcry against fracking? (OPEC + Russia). Hydrocarbon money, used for mischief.
The Globalists, did not want America to resume energy self-sufficiency. Each of the powers, Islamic or Communist, had characteristics that are hostile to America, but our "Frends" did not want us to have energy self-sufficiency.
It seems as though to control us we needed to be crippled from time to time from betrayals. If we were hobbled we could continue to be their stupid thug.
So, trust is running thin.
For instance, it was a French person who coined the word "Hispanic". This was an effort to damage Anglo interests.
I watch these silly videos about 3rd world people, who are desperate to not be European, even though they look very European in some cases. Often they may be of a large part Spanish.
The world White was instituted so that a group "Black" could be established as well.
These are all tricks to manufacture instabilities in our society. They try to draw a false quorum, for there efforts of hostility to America.
OF course, the Islam and the Communists, and their kindred, having money from the petrochemical industry so as to compete or damage or conquest the USA. But that is old money that is drying up. We are making much of that money, our money.
It was very unkind for G.B. and the West Europeans to have so little consideration for our needs. But it was only human.
America has so far figured out how to balance the state powers and the federal powers. Europe has not and I think it likely that they cannot. So, I think they are unstable. It took a lot of American energy to hold the so called west together.
I believe that America is now in a Eurasian Phase and has concluded its Eurafrican phase. The Nordics, the Poles, Hungarians, and even Russians, have some potential activities with us. The Nordics though have their heads up someone else's bottoms though at this time as I would measure it. We did quite a lot to assist them in their recovery from the world they were in. And then what was this stupid thing they did with 3rd world immigrants.
So, we have to be concerned about malice and stupidity when we are connected up to the Europeans. I think it is necessary for America to hold Europe at arm's length more now.
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#139 Re: Not So Free Chat » Peter Zeihan again: and also other thinkers: » 2026-02-03 16:14:39
Correct Sir!
#140 Re: Not So Free Chat » Peter Zeihan again: and also other thinkers: » 2026-02-03 15:42:43
https://www.bitchute.com/video/CW6yQtaRC8uc/
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5 AI CEOs Just Said The Same Thing
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So, it is just possible that AI will find a way to roll back my age, and I will become a teen idol with a very long life span. Then I can marry my robot girlfriend who will then divorce me and sue me for gadget support, while cheating on me with a robot hitman who will kill me.
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#141 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Multi-Ship Expeditions, Starboat & Starship, Other. » 2026-02-03 15:04:38
At this time I am considering that the cone is the transition between the cylinder and the disk(Torus). Between the two major types of in space habitats.
I hope that it is more like a disk than a cylinder. So, I hope to escape gyroscopic flip flops.
The structure may provide some cooled surfaces for AI, and of course intercepts the sunlight.
Unlike a Stanford Torus, this might not have pressurized spokes. But a ship could land inside of it, and using safe methods the inner surface of the cone could be walked on. Stairs, safety harnesses?
So, I am thinking of a structure like this for part of a "Planet Pass Spaceship".
Although space stations and other structure might be built like this.
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The "Torus" might be replaced with two or more spherical habitats as an option.
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#142 Re: Not So Free Chat » What collections of people think people should be property? » 2026-02-03 01:54:46
I imagined myself there with you, but I was flatulent, and you threw me out of the airlock. That wasn't nice.
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Look man, the western world in the last 50+ years has been one of coming to grips with the results of colonialism and state sanctioned suppression,, and the soul-debt of that. I don't know what the right amount of guilt payment is right. I don't know what evens the scales, if ever. What I do know is that we all should be supportive of anything that is other than the past.
Colonialism and the west. I am not sure I believe in the west.
The real thing that happened was like a chemical reaction Clark.
Now shall I condemn Italians forever because there was a Mafia?
Criminal activity exists because there is a temptation to it.
I am one of those who are toying with the idea that the idea of "Out of Africa" is wrong.
I Have instead the notion that Africa is (+) and the Chin are (-), All others live between them.
Gene flow has acted from the center. The Genetic center. Perhaps at times the Caspian Sea, perhaps maybe Ethiopia.
The process of humans over time can be thought of as a unicellular organism, with a (+) and (-) polarity. It was near the Caspian Sea, speculate. Across the Himalayas, was India. With advancements in technology, exchange caused a first Mitosis. We then had the Proto-Europe up in Russia and the Proto-India at the Indian sub-continent.
Some ocean voyages brought the danger of an arc between the East Asians (-) and sub Saharan Africa (+) It began to leak towards Madagascar from Malaya Polynesian sources.
There are hints that the Polynesians or someone related to them also leaked into the Americas.
Then the Norse started traveling to the Americas. But they were too related to the Native Americans. The Native Americans have a relationship to the Steppe Peoples who invaded Europe, and India. If the Norse had had nasty diseases, they might have killed the Native Americans with that. But it appears that they did not carry such.
Columbus, learned about the American land mass while visiting Iceland.
The Spanish and their slaves did carry disease. And the Spanish and the Slaves of African origin carried (+).
The Native Americans having been isolated for so long were vulnerable to both the diseases and the (+) (Genes of value).
When I say genes of Value I do not name one as better than the other. The Native Americans needed updating. Every group gets updated and it is often not pretty.
We have the image of the Spaniards being lethal killers and they were at times. But for them to get into Mexico they had to have Allies amount the Native Americans. Those Native Americans that were historically being tormented by the "Civilization" in what we call Mexico.
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You may think of the world as having been flat and then turning into a sphere over time as groups met each other around the edges of the flat Earth, then the human world became a sphere.
It is like a chemical reaction, or if you like a storm where the power is a Vacuum that gradually dissipates.
You seek to blame someone for what is called Colonialism which is to some extent over. It was a storm. In part powered by as Peter Zeihan said, people with guns bringing them to a knife fight.
Now will you blame me for the Opium Wars? That was just Mafia like people who responded to an opportunity to take their guns to a knife fight.
You could talk about the Vikings. Most of the Norse were not Vikings. So then shall we hold a grudge against Scandinavians at this point. Some may try, but that was pre-Columbus. and we prance about lamenting 1492 to the now.
People who sinned sinned. That is a need for improvement.
But people who responded to temptation, that is not my fault unless i am the one currently responding to a temptation.
It is said that about 6% of men are psychopaths. Am I to pay a price for what psychopaths of the past no longer living did with temptation?
And while we are at it lets speculate on the psychopaths of the females who crave a clash between male groups. The damage from the Male Psychopaths is somewhat easier to evaluate.
Genetic updating is likely where a special skill enables a aggressor to penetrate into an existing body of people who tend to not have that advantage. The same may be true for memes as well.
We really are "Riders on the Storm". It is good if we try to be moral and responsible, but I am not willing to be punished for what yesterdays psychopaths did.
I believe that we may have 4 cells between Sub Sahara Africa and the East Asians. And even though I indicate the 4 cells as being outside of the (+) and (-) actually they are as well parts of the cells.
For instance Japan and I think Korea are part of North America now.
The Philippines are part of South America now.
Mongolia is part of the European Cell.
Tibet is part of the Indian Cell.
We are parts of a giant dividing structure that resembles a Zygote.
It may be a computer.
https://aliens.fandom.com/wiki/Mouse_(T … he_Galaxy)
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The world keeps trying to make me wear a hair shirt. I am not interested. I also don't want to be crucified, Thank You very much.
I don't need a church to deliver me to a crucifixion. I do not care to see criticism of our president from such institutions. The world seeks our blood, and the church try's to betray us to the world.
Having said that, I still value the Church and its general process.
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#143 Re: Business Proposals » Data Centers (Including Off World) » 2026-02-02 17:40:02
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … &FORM=VIRE
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BREAKING: Elon's SpaceX acquires xAI (what this means)
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And strong rumors say that somehow Tesla will be included into this. Somewhere along the line the results would all be publicly traded.
I believe that Tesla has some items to add, such as chips and solar, and I suppose Optimus Humanoid Robots, and I suppose cars on other worlds.
In the video disposal of expired satellites by the standard methods are mentioned, but I am going to guess at some point refurbishment, refueling, and recycling of materials will emerge as well.
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So, Elon Musk and company connect space energy and space cooling with AI to sell, and have the means to build the machines and the transport for the machines.
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#144 Re: Life support systems » Carbon is the New Metal--- Also biological materials source. » 2026-02-02 14:11:57
A video about Carbon: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/c … i-AA1URQzJ
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#145 Re: Life support systems » Bogs and Bog, Floating Island Technology, and Roller Solar. » 2026-02-02 14:09:37
From the prior post:
This looks like almost compatible with some Earth environments and perhaps some future Mars environments:
So, I am going to speculate on Sargasso Seaweed as a crop. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sargassum
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Sargassum is a genus of brown macroalgae (seaweed) in the order Fucales of the class Phaeophyceae.[1] This brown macroalgae comes from the Sargasso Sea, which was named because it hosts large amounts of Sargassum.[
I have no certainty that it would grow well in giant plastic bags, but.....
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Even though Sargassum influxes have already generated significant environmental and economic issues, researchers and industries are considering methods of converting this biomass to sustainable resources.[70] Sargassum is a rich source of carbohydrates, minerals, and bioactive compounds and it has been used as compost or organic fertilizer in the coastal communities, to reduce waste and increase soil productivity.[71][72]More recent research has also investigated the applications of Sargassum in bioremediation and carbon sequestration because it has a high carbon/nitrogen ratio and therefore could be used to take away contaminants and sequester atmospheric CO2.[73] Nonetheless, the presence of high salt and heavy metals in certain Sargassum biomass requires thorough processing prior to agricultural or industrial use.
Recent work has also examined Sargassum as a biosorbent for recovering rare earth elements (REEs). A 2025 study found that Sargassum filipendula efficiently adsorbs REEs across low to high concentrations, with fresh biomass performing especially well at environmentally relevant levels.[74] The species showed high capacities for heavy REEs, maintained effectiveness under high salinity and variable pH, and outperformed activated carbon. This suggests a scalable “algal mining” pathway that could help manage coastal Sargassum while supporting sustainable supplies of critical materials.
As an example, if you started with a saline body of water, you could put these floating islands on them. Consider the Salton Sea.
And don't get hung up on plastics and microplastics. That was just a ploy by the globalists who want to destroy industry so that they can employ you to shovel poo out of there pony barn on their nice green estates. Their game is to knock you down so that they can be above you and yet not ascend at all as people.
The Salton Sea is too salty for fish or will be soon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salton_Sea
https://saltonseaactioncommittee.org/faq/
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The Salton Sea is approximately 55 parts per thousand (PPT), making it significantly saltier than ocean water, which is about 35 PPT. The salinity of the Salton Sea increases every year due to evaporation and the inflow of approximately 4 million tons of salt annually. Currently, it is more than twice as salty as the Pacific Ocean.
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I recall reading at one time that in general salinity twice that of sea water is about the limit of what some fish can tolerate.
Here is a list of salt tolerant fishes which lived or might even still live in the Salton Sea: https://pondinformer.com/salton-sea-fish-species/
Water filled plastic bags or rigid structure might float on the Salton Sea, if filled with water that is less salty than that of the Salton Sea. So, they could be floats.
If a platform were put on top of that it might shelter the floats from UV light. On the platforms you might put solar panels. The resulting floating islands and the panels might follow the sun. While the floats might contain fresh water, water about the saltiness of sea water +/k-??? might support something like Sargasso Seaweed. I have no test data on that. I want to speculate on that because as it is an Algae, it might like microalgae be able to be sustained on Oxygen and Acetate, in the dark.
https://news.ucr.edu/articles/2022/06/2 … t-sunshine
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Experiments showed that a wide range of food-producing organisms can be grown in the dark directly on the acetate-rich electrolyzer output, including green algae, yeast, and fungal mycelium that produce mushrooms. Producing algae with this technology is approximately fourfold more energy efficient than growing it photosynthetically. Yeast production is about 18-fold more energy efficient than how it is typically cultivated using sugar extracted from corn.
So, it is my expectation that any surface of such a body of water covered by such a device should have minimum evaporation. So, more water should accumulate in the body of water, and the saltiness should be diluted.
IF you could grow a crop in the dark, using Acetate, and Oxygen, you may subject it to a process. You might ferment it to produce Methane, or you might subject it to Pyrolysis, to produce gasses and Carbon heavy solids.
The CO2 needed to make the Acetate might came from the brine of the lake or from the atmosphere. Some of the produced products, Methane, Carbon Solids, might be manufacture into higher quality Carbon products. Certain parts of the floating islands might in part be manufactured that way.
Here is a topic that deals with that: https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=11299
The lake then could swell up to occupy its former shorelines, then covering the toxic dry lake bottom dusts.
https://www.inovynawards.com/ocean-sun- … -typhoons/
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While you could have multiple rotator floating islands, you could fill in the gaps with non-rotating platforms between the rotators.
So, you might reduce the evaporation from the Salton Sea down to!% to 10% depending how you did it.
If the Salton Sea gets too high, you simply pump the excess salty water to another basin, and begin setting that one up the same way.
I think that you could bring fishing/fish back to the Salton Sea doing only some of this.
Actually, I think that if you could drop the evaporation down to 1% of normal you could just fill basins with rainwater in the Great Basin.
The heat of the sun and of the day would be rejected into the air and sky above the islands, but the solar panel structures might serve as radiators at night.
So, the water might not get too hot.
This process could pull Carbon out of the atmosphere, to regulate the climate which the Greens who want us to be poo shovelers are so worried about.
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FYI, some of the Carbon captured could be incorporated into the water floats.
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#146 Re: Not So Free Chat » Politics » 2026-02-02 14:07:19
As two collective decisions, do you think it is possible that they don't want to stop Trump?
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#147 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Multi-Ship Expeditions, Starboat & Starship, Other. » 2026-02-02 11:33:36
So, I am actually on shaky ground as concerns my assumptions "Planet Pass Spaceship". The idea as I see it is to launch from a "Host" world with easily obtained orbital resources and then pass a world which is located inner relative to the sun to the orbit of the "Host" world. Then it has to travel outward to intercept the "Host" world at a speed where it can be Ballistically Captured to the gravitational pocket of the "Host" world.
So in this a Spacecraft would have a "Host" world and a "Pass" world. Typically, mass would be accumulated to the Spaceship at the host world mostly. At the Pass world mass could be distributed as cargo to be captured to the "Pass" world or thrust exhaust. Much of the mass that might be accumulated from a "Pass" world would be humans. However, it might be possible for there to be mass transfers in flight where robotic ion propulsion devices may intercept the orbital path of the Spaceship.
When passing by the "Pass" world, gravitational alteration of orbit can be done and also possibly a Oberth Maneuver. In flight various methods could be used to modify orbit.
Many propulsion methods are available but those based on water are of significant interest. At Deimos/Phobos/Mars or Ceres, lots of water could be taken on board, if you had the tanks for it. It seems that it can be used in Ion propulsion, or you can split it and do immediate burns of Hydrogen and Oxygen, or stored burns of it. In flight the water is radiation protective and agricultural capable. And also, a potential source of Oxygen if you need to do that. Additional propulsion methods are steam and mass driver ejection methods.
For Deimos/Phobos/Mars, it is hopeful that propellant ships could lift Liquid Hydrogen from Mars and have that quickly bonded to Oxygen from Deimos and Phobos, to create water.
For Ceres, the gravity well is very shallow, and the amount of water is thought to be very large.
Calliban at some point, as I recall, was good enough to evaluate the question of if a Ballistic Capture could be done at Ceres. He indicated that he thought that it could be done. I expect that as for Mars you have to be traveling slow enough to be pulled into it's gravitational pocket. Its pocket is smaller relative to Mars I expect but I recall that it is large relative to the size of Ceres.
If Ceres might work, I wonder if other major asteroids might work? If so, then several bases in the asteroid belt might serve as "Host" worlds. That may facilitate the distribution of mineral extraction actions in the asteroid belt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_e … _asteroids
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#148 Re: Not So Free Chat » Politics » 2026-02-02 10:58:22
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I have a question for Americans on this forum. Who could replace the Vice President?
I think he will do just fine. Our Legislature and Supreme Court can hobble him is necessary, but I don't think that will be needed. Our government is not just the president.
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Trump’s health is so bad he will not live to the end of his term. He already demonstrates dementia. Eg, confusing Greenland with Iceland.
Anyone could do that. I prefer a vast mind that is bigger than its verbal skills than a Fountain of world salads.
Have you watched how Elon Musk stumbles with words sometimes? Is he senile? There is just probably some many plates spinning at one time that on occasion small mistakes happen which can easily be corrected for.
Examples: https://giphy.com/explore/spinning-plates
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Whilst tarrifs have their uses, Trump's use of tarrifs as a political weapon in every dispute or negotiation is damaging to American industry.
Results are still not yet defined, we will see.
My speculation on the situation is that the USA is a 2-mode country. This is our other mode East Asian and East European threats are less now than per the Cold War. Other threats are more important now.
Great Britain does have two modes. But Scotland is small. So, your other mode is not of equal size to your Pseudo-Latin mode.
You could try to bind with the Nordics get Huggy with them. Good luck with that blending. Tell they you want Greenland. But even if you could unify that, that would be unification in one vector and insufficient union in the other.
France has Poland, or will Poland have France?
You guys just don't have the unification tools that the USA does. Even Canada does not have a sufficiency of tools yet.
You can look at is as crop rotation. The soil that grew what it grew from 1929 (Very Approximately) to 2008 (Very Approximately) does not have the nutrients left over to continue in that mode. So then plant something else.
That is approximately part of what I could answer.
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#149 Re: Not So Free Chat » Copper, Silver, and other Metals » 2026-02-01 18:26:31
It does not matter if the people to the south are annoying or not, they will benefit from this, I expect: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … &FORM=VIRE
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JUST NOW: Canada Discovers a 6.8 Billion-Ton Aluminum Treasure — Everything Changes
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Like it or not, Canada's energy and such an ore deposit will be a benefit to near-by markets even if only their money is liked at this point.
Canada lucks out and the USA lucks out as well. Or Canada is productive and the USA benefits as well.
Like it or not. I like it.
This and the giant Iron Ore deposit in Australia is likely to be helpful to technological societies.
https://www.futura-sciences.com/en/geol … omy_23187/
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#150 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Multi-Ship Expeditions, Starboat & Starship, Other. » 2026-02-01 18:14:41
I was surprised to find that someone has made an ion thruster that uses water for propellant mass, (It seems).
https://pale-blue.co.jp/news/946/
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Pale Blue confirmed the world’s first successful in-orbit operation of PBI, a water ion thruster optimized for small satellites. This marks the world’s first operation in space of an ion engine using water as the propellant. With a mass production system already in place, our proprietary PBI is now being delivered to partners worldwide.
【Key Features of PBI】
Superior Performance and Versatile Mission Capabilities:
Despite its compact, palm-sized 1U+ (approximately 10 cm cube) form factor, the thruster delivers a high total impulse*, contributing to various missions including orbit maintenance. The thruster can also be clusterized, enabling multiple units to work together to accommodate a wider range of spacecraft sizes and diverse mission requirements
I don't know if it can be sized up or what its power consumption is, but it is a good start that it works, it seems.
What I see for this an Deimos/Phobos/Mars, is that if you could get water from someplace in these three worlds of course that would be big.
But if not then you might get Hydrogen from Mars and then combine it with excess Oxgyen from Deimos or Phobos and have a propellant mass.
It would in effect shoot Oxygen along with some Hydrogen out as propellant mass.
It has a long way to go though, to be a major player.
Maybe it will get there.
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