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#29976 Re: Human missions » Moon to Mars Mission - The posible Man and Unmaned Mission » 2004-09-10 08:26:40

The first area is preliminary concepts for human lunar exploration. The second category consists of preliminary concepts for the crew exploration vehicle and human lunar exploration.

So Nasa has judge some proposals as only lunar capable ands some compamies capable of both.

NASA Selects Contractors for Vision for Space Exploration Studies

http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2004/se … udies.html

#29977 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Major Extrasolar Planet Discovery - ...to be announced August 31! » 2004-09-10 08:05:07

Photo may be first of extrasolar planet
A group of European-led astronomers has made a photograph of what appears to be a planet orbiting another star. If so, it would be the first confirmed picture of a world beyond our solar system.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/09/1 … index.html

#29978 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » New Discoveries *3* - ...MORE deep space, extraplanetary, etc. » 2004-09-10 08:04:27

Photo may be first of extrasolar planet
A group of European-led astronomers has made a photograph of what appears to be a planet orbiting another star. If so, it would be the first confirmed picture of a world beyond our solar system.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/09/1 … index.html

#29979 Re: Human missions » Moon to Mars Mission - The posible Man and Unmaned Mission » 2004-09-10 07:49:17

Here is how Nasa is paying for the seed money for the starting of the CEV project. Robbing peter to pay paul. But what will we get for it in return just more delay or at least 6 months with another possible.

Article also contains who got what awards and there amounts.

Space Plan Takes A Tiny Step
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/spacetravel-04zx.html

#29980 Re: Human missions » The need for a Moon direct - and sustainabilty program » 2004-09-10 07:44:23

Any long term sustainable program will also mean long term stay is space and with the disruption of our bodies internal clocks.

Sleeping problems could be a barrier to space exploration
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medical … wsid=13150

#29981 Re: Human missions » Clunking to Mars - Are the needed parts already up there? » 2004-09-10 07:40:32

Definetly needed for any long period stay by any make up of Astronaut crew member, good weather prodictions...

Aussies plan for Mars weather forecasts - Seeing Mars in a different light
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=15006

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#29982 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Scientists Glimpse Exotic Matter In A Neutron Star - Fusion or Fision » 2004-09-10 07:15:29

Fusion or Fision which is the type of explosion we are seeing from this star and its companion. Or is this something new?

Scientists Glimpse Exotic Matter In A Neutron Star
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/stellar- … y-04k.html

Snipet:
Scientists have obtained their best measurement yet of the size and contents of a neutron star, an ultra-dense object containing the strangest and rarest matter in the universe. The measurement may lead to a better understanding of nature's building blocks - protons, neutrons and their constituent quarks - as they are compressed inside the neutron star to a density trillions of times greater than on Earth.

Gas from its companion star crashes onto the surface of the neutron star close to the speed of light, creating thermonuclear bursts of X-rays that last from one to two minutes and can occur several times an hour.

#29983 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Space Elevator gets more funding » 2004-09-10 07:07:42

Another must for space elevators is for power.

Nanotechnology Leads To Discovery Of Super Superconductors
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/energy-tech-04zzh.html

University of Cambridge have demonstrated a simple and industrially scaleable method for improving the current densities of superconducting coated conductors in magnetic field environments.

#29984 Re: Human missions » NDSS National Department of Space Settlement - We've explored, now let's occupy! » 2004-09-10 06:40:57

I hope they win and are sucessful (snicker. snicker) :laugh: for Nasa needs a good old fashion kick in the pants to get them moving. Also the big rocket makers in Boeing and Lockheed better pay attention this month for the succesful runs from the SpaceShipOne for they may be out of a job sooner than they think for building Nasa's Next CEV.

One can have wishful thinking too...

#29985 Re: Human missions » Space Initive Launch Vehicle » 2004-09-10 06:34:31

Either or a half dozen of gubbered combinations and along with many clean slate designs for either, neither or both craft combinations but we still have none.

Why is that?

when the ones that most likely will be selected are the same ones in use today in Lockheed and Boeing. It is not in there best interest to have already done the actual work for they have no garanteed money though contracts so they will not do it.
Yes we recently gave them and others a little seed money to scratch a pen or pencil to paper or even to use the most advanced cad system to come up with the all purpose dream vehicle for the CEV or constellation project.
we have already been though numerous studies and concept cycles in the past and some are still on going. Not to mention 6 months followed by a possible 6 more. When will the cycle end?.....

#29986 Re: Human missions » Clunking to Mars - Are the needed parts already up there? » 2004-09-10 06:01:20

We all know that the journey to Mars is a long trip full of danger and of radiation dosages that will damage cells.

Secrets of a Salty Survivor

A microbe that grows in the Dead Sea is teaching scientists about the art of DNA repair.
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004 … icrobe.htm

snipet:
Halobacterium appears to be a master of the complex art of DNA repair. "We have completely fragmented their DNA. I mean we have completely destroyed it by bombarding it with [radiation]. And they can reassemble their entire chromosome and put it back into working order within several hours," says Adrienne Kish, member of the research group studying Halobacterium at the University of Maryland.

#29987 Re: Terraformation » High pressure 'terraforming' of Venus - trimix atmosphere and cooling » 2004-09-10 05:47:28

The system does not need to be complex or of large size but needs to run continuous. Remember we only need to start the change to happen after that it will begin to snow ball and self regulate downward in temperature as the atmospheric C02 is removed targeting what will make a change for gas collection and returning what will accelerate further change to occur.

In addition if steady cooling and gasses liquification system is implemented you will have all the oxygen and hydrogen as a bonus for when we do arrive to study and to explore our nearest neighbor.

#29988 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » ISS cutbacks » 2004-09-09 21:16:08

Is this the effect of 2 cash strapped programs lead nations or something else. Oxygen Supplies Tight on ISS again this makes the second time this year that the crew is on the edge of needing to leave the station if anything should happen to the resupply ship if the unit is not fixable.

9 September 2004: Oxygen problems plague space station, MSNBC
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5953450/

8 September 2004: NASA Space Station On-Orbit Status 8 September 2004
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=13906

"Update on Elektron:  The Russian oxygen (O2) generator is still off.   [The crew performed limited troubleshooting this morning for the ground to acquire diagnostic telemetry.  The problem this time is apparently not with bubbles in the BZh Fluid Unit but with the unit's oxygen & hydrogen gas analyzer, which is a failure mode not seen before.  With Elektron off, ISS will reach the lower O2 limit in the cabin air in 7 days.  Beyond that, there is 62 lbs (28 kg) of O2 in Progress 15P, enough for 16 days.  There are also 84 SFOG (solid-fuel oxygen generator) "candles" on board, which would supply another 42 days' worth of O2.  In short, total O2 margin is well above and beyond what is needed to make it to the next resupply date (Progress 16, on 11/26) and maintain redlines.]"

#29989 Re: Human missions » More ISS hardball - How does this affect US vision? » 2004-09-09 21:13:33

Oxygen Supplies Tight on ISS this makes the second time this year that the crew is on the edge of needing to leave the station if anything should happen to the resupply ship if the unit is not fixable.

9 September 2004: Oxygen problems plague space station, MSNBC
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5953450/

8 September 2004: NASA Space Station On-Orbit Status 8 September 2004
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=13906

"Update on Elektron:  The Russian oxygen (O2) generator is still off.   [The crew performed limited troubleshooting this morning for the ground to acquire diagnostic telemetry.  The problem this time is apparently not with bubbles in the BZh Fluid Unit but with the unit's oxygen & hydrogen gas analyzer, which is a failure mode not seen before.  With Elektron off, ISS will reach the lower O2 limit in the cabin air in 7 days.  Beyond that, there is 62 lbs (28 kg) of O2 in Progress 15P, enough for 16 days.  There are also 84 SFOG (solid-fuel oxygen generator) "candles" on board, which would supply another 42 days' worth of O2.  In short, total O2 margin is well above and beyond what is needed to make it to the next resupply date (Progress 16, on 11/26) and maintain redlines.]"

#29990 Re: Human missions » Space Initive Launch Vehicle » 2004-09-09 14:24:47

We will see if your wish is in the actual returns from Boeing.

#29992 Re: Human missions » NDSS National Department of Space Settlement - We've explored, now let's occupy! » 2004-09-09 14:06:12

Then there would be no problems with a unified Earth effort to colonization at that point.

#29993 Re: Human missions » Space Initive Launch Vehicle » 2004-09-09 14:03:41

Actually there is a contract out for a steerable parachute design under another thread.

http://www.newmars.com/cgi-bin....uidance

Boeing got the contract
Boeing to design Mars parachute technology
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n040 … parachute/

#29994 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » When science looses out to publicity - Or, why beaurocracy sucks » 2004-09-09 13:50:42

If you have a camera and recording equipment to interface to the telescope, then it can be used for classes as well for real science instruction.

#29995 Re: Human missions » Might Shuttle C - save Hubble? » 2004-09-09 13:25:26

Another reason why Hubble will not be saved.

uranus-rings-vlt-2002-desk-bg.jpg

The power of adaptive optics will render Hubble-class space telescopes obsolete. (File image of the rings of Uranus, as taken by the VLT facility)

#29996 Re: Human missions » Space Initive Launch Vehicle » 2004-09-09 13:23:48

Article about why rocket science is hard.

High Technology Vs. Space Travel
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/oped-04y.html

#29997 Re: Human missions » How to lower launch costs - Calling our techie gurus. . . » 2004-09-09 13:18:27

Editorial:
A vision for the ages Today, members of a key Senate Appropriations subcommittee are poised to slash NASA's budget and undermine President Bush's historic vision for space exploration.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20 … -2126r.htm

#29998 Re: Human missions » Space Initive Launch Vehicle » 2004-09-09 11:35:59

Here is a link to a document that list all contracts handed out recently for the exploration initiative.

http://www.exploration.nasa.gov/documen … t_0902.doc

#29999 Re: Human missions » How to lower launch costs - Calling our techie gurus. . . » 2004-09-09 11:29:06

And where is the word alternative space providers that are trying to get into the game, such as Armadillo Aerospace
here is a link into news from their most recent attempts.
http://www.armadilloaerospace.com/n.x/A … ews_id=276

I like the individual Astronaut lunar lander it is sort of on the lines of the escape pod idea.

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#30000 Re: Human missions » Space Initive Launch Vehicle » 2004-09-09 11:24:37

All New....
One more reason to develope with off the shelf maybe slightly modified for the next real manned vehicle.

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