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#29851 Re: Human missions » Space Elevator vs Mars Direct - Anyone compare the costs? » 2004-09-20 09:34:53

Another use for nanotubes.
Researchers invent antenna for light
Researchers said on Friday they have invented an antenna that captures visible light in much the same way that radio antennas capture radio waves
http://www.cnn.com/2004....ex.html

#29852 Re: Human missions » More ISS hardball - How does this affect US vision? » 2004-09-20 09:28:04

The above link was all that I have found today.

But on the return to flight on safe haven use of the ISS for the shuttle the Abc hurricane story,
Hurricanes May Have Upset NASA's Schedule
NASA Oversight Panel Worries Hurricanes May Have Upset NASA's Schedule for Resuming Flights
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap2 … _2052.html

Quote:
NASA's backup plan, in case of irreparable shuttle damage, would be for the seven astronauts to move into the international space station until a rescue ship is launched. But that assumes all the station's life-support equipment is working.

If the oxygen generator is still not working right next year and cannot be replaced, that alone would probably be enough to keep Discovery on the ground, Covey said.

#29853 Re: Human missions » Space Elevator vs Mars Direct - Anyone compare the costs? » 2004-09-20 09:17:16

While not an elevator it is a novel approach to moving up. Could you picture oneself levitating to the ISS in little more than a space suit.

Phenomenon of levitation comes into everyday life

Modern scientists are developing anti-gravitational systems 

http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/ … ation.html

#29854 Re: Human missions » Kerry's position on space *2* - ...continue discussion here (for now) » 2004-09-20 09:14:09

Russian news story on voting machines.

Is there a connection between Bush and the makers of the electronic voting machines?

http://english.pravda.ru/mailbox/22/101 … oting.html
This election is rigged and Bush will win no matter what.

#29855 Re: Human missions » China The Dominant Superpower In 20 Years..... - What does this mean for US? » 2004-09-20 08:26:36

Yes the attacks did persuade the elections and to make them pull there forces out. It was successful in getting them to change there views on involvement in Iraq.

This war is lingering way to long and is made more difficult by the day by all those wishing to control or to change the direction and course that the US has put Iraq's people on of democracy.

With recent hostage taking it even takes longer and runs the chance of more civilians both iraq and of other nations being killed.

#29856 Re: Human missions » More ISS hardball - How does this affect US vision? » 2004-09-20 07:01:29

Good news, that the oxygen generation unit is temporarily fixed as indicated though the weekends stories. But with out more support flight of materials and parts is it just an accident waiting to happen. Will we be able to wait until the shuttle is flying?

#29857 Re: Space Policy » Space fairing Nations - The ever changing view » 2004-09-20 06:51:06

Over the week end many stories have come out with regards to the US lifts export restrictions on ISRO. This is a big step forward with introducing more nations into the ISS and into the process of the vision.

The United States announced Friday that it will lift restrictions on the export of space hardware to the Indian space agency, the latest step in growing cooperation between the two countries' space efforts. The US State Department announced that ISRO will be removed from the Department of Commerce Entity List, which includes organizations "determined to present an unacceptable risk of diversion to developing weapons of mass destruction or the missiles used to deliver those weapons." ISRO had been put on the list after India tested a nuclear weapon in 1998. The decision to remove ISRO from the list is designed to "foster cooperation in commercial space programs", according to a State Department statement. The decision is the latest in gradual thawing of relations over the last three years between the two countries on space and nuclear cooperation. Earlier this year the two countries agreed to cooperate on remote sensing efforts, with India to build a ground station for the American NPOESS weather satellite system. The decision also comes before a meeting scheduled on Tuesday between Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and US President George Bush at the United Nations in New York.

AP article http://www.space.com/news/india_us_040918.html

Calcutta Telegraph article http://www.telegraphindia.com/1040919/a … 776465.asp

NDTV.com article http://www.ndtv.com/topstor....d=15297

IANS article http://athens-olympics-2004.newkerala.com/?action....d=31878

State Department press release http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2004/36290.htm

Many more on the spacetoday page:

#29858 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Laser Communication-Earth/Mars - Mars/Earth Laser Comunication » 2004-09-20 06:42:35

Great graphics, and on other uses for Weightless wireless
Lasers are being perfected to run remote-control devices underwater, in space and more.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp....8863851

#29859 Re: Human missions » Where exactly is Mars Direct with NASA? - Are they going to do it or not? » 2004-09-20 06:38:42

The journey to Mars in months forces us to think about crew health.

Mars astronauts will hibernate for a 50 million-mile journey in space
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ … ory=563721

#29860 Re: Human missions » Congress Cuts NASA's Budget On Apollo Anniversary - A no no for Bush's budget increase » 2004-09-20 06:15:41

SpacePolitics Budget roundup

Quote:
A few items of note about the efforts to get NASA's budget approved in Congress:

Writing for UPI http://www.spacedaily.com/news/nasa-04zm.html , Frank Sietzen describes the current budget situation with a baseball analogy, with the game tied in the bottom of the 8th inning and Congress at bat. He expects the Senate to take up the VA-HUD-independent agencies bill this week. Tight funding limits approved by Senate appropriators earlier this month could lead to cuts similar to what the House approved in July. If the appropriations bill makes it to the Senate floor, he says it could trigger "the first serious political debate about space spending since the 1989 and 1990 fights over the International Space Station."
A Florida Today editorial http://www.floridatoday.com/!NEWSROOM/o … 5WNASA.htm last week calls the current situation a "bogus game of political chicken" because of the reported veto threat. The editors rightly note that such a veto is unlikely because NASA's budget is included in a larger appropriation that includes veterans and housing programs. (Also, the bill may end up in a larger omnibus budget bill that would be even more difficult for the President to veto.) The editorial calls on President Bush to "use a bit of his political energy on the campaign trail" to promote the benefits of NASA and the exploration vision.
With the 2005 fiscal year to begin in less than two weeks, NASA and other federal agencies will need most likely a series of continuing resolutions (CRs) to keep operating until the final 2005 budget is passed. CongressDaily http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0904/091604cdpm1.htm reported last week that some members of Congress are supporting the idea of a long-term CR that would keep those agencies funded for several months, perhaps as late as March 2005, at FY04 levels. This would avoid the need for a lame-duck session this year after the election. This could turn out to be a short-term boon for NASA, assuming the House's version of the FY05 budget—$229 million less than the FY04 budget—wins out in the end. However, it might handcuff efforts to spend funds on exploration and other programs not included in the FY04 budget.

#29861 Re: Life support systems » Nutrition » 2004-09-20 06:08:05

What to Eat on the Way to Mars 
"Thirty-five years ago on the moon, Neil Armstrong and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin busted open one small meal for man -- foil packets containing roasted turkey and all the trimmings -- while kids at home slurped Tang in solidarity.

That mission lasted only nine days. Now, food scientists are working out ways to feed astronauts on a mission to Mars that will last years. "

http://www.wired.com/news/space/0,2697, … _tophead_4

#29862 Re: Human missions » More ISS hardball - How does this affect US vision? » 2004-09-20 06:05:25

Talk about being untimely, "US-Russian agreement, which was signed eight years ago, made it incumbent on the Russian aerospace agency to provide 11 Soyuz spacecraft free of charge for flying Russian cosmonauts and US astronauts to the ISS. Russia will fulfil such commitments 18 months from now. The eleventh Soyuz ferry will lift off in October 2005, shaping course for the ISS. It will remain docked with the orbiter for six consecutive months, playing the part of a rescue pod and returning to Planet Earth in April 2006. The Russian Federal Space Agency will subsequently demand that NASA pay for its services. "

US MUST REIMBURSE RUSSIA FOR USING SOYUZ SPACECRAFT

http://en.rian.ru/rian/index.cfm?msg_id=4873236

#29863 Re: Human missions » Space Elevator vs Mars Direct - Anyone compare the costs? » 2004-09-20 05:44:28

Well here is the view of spacereview on the issue Elevators and exploration Does a space elevator fit into the Vision for Space Exploration?

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/229/1

#29864 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Airborne Observatory - ...SOFIA » 2004-09-20 05:41:35

This weeks space review talks of the “Near Space”: a new area of operations or a new Pentagon buzzword?

While greater than suborbital but not quite LEO this is a strategic area of space and of military concern for control.

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/230/1

#29865 Re: Planetary transportation » baloon launcher - Cheap way to get to space » 2004-09-20 05:40:15

This weeks space review talks of the “Near Space”: a new area of operations or a new Pentagon buzzword?

While greater than suborbital but not quite LEO this is a strategic area of space and of military concern for control.

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/230/1

#29866 Re: Human missions » The need for a Moon direct - and sustainabilty program » 2004-09-20 05:27:22

So we want to use robotically controlled devices to mining and to prepare any lunar base area.

First I know of no such electrical or otherwise powered; bull dozers, backhoes and other Earth moving equipment currently in creation.

Also taking tons of digital mapping photos is a useless step, if we are preparing any site for a base to be placed at.

Doing a rover style probe to search for water or other needed chemical presence is a must but other than that why wait for things to be developed.

Never would I have thought that posting of this topic on Aug. 19 2004 would have yielded so much discusion and there is yet so much more to talk of still.

#29867 Re: Human missions » Space Elevator vs Mars Direct - Anyone compare the costs? » 2004-09-18 19:08:23

Now on the moon or on Mars, that is a different set of problems for designing one but there it could prove your point.

That is why I put the next set of lines, as a means to proceed with developement as soon as materials could and to provide the safety margin do to construction size but to remove all possibility of such acts.....

#29868 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Traveling-Wave Engine - Deep Space Travel » 2004-09-17 20:12:43

This has been around since the late 60s when guitar sound amplifiers had an experiment that used a voice coil wires inserted into a flame and it produced audible sound. My memory is somewhat rusty on the specifics but I do remember reading about this so many years ago. There is also something simular for the greek ampli-theaters stages having torches or open bowls of flame used in the same way.

#29869 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Laser Communication-Earth/Mars - Mars/Earth Laser Comunication » 2004-09-17 20:04:31

Well with a couple of optical smooth surface satelites in orbit you just might be able to have continous comunications.

#29870 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Da Vinci in the Running - Let the Space Race Begin! » 2004-09-17 20:00:40

Add a little power on the down slide and a set of wings to get the glide path just right and you just might make it into orbit with a ship maybe only twice the size of the SpaceShipOne.

#29871 Re: Human missions » Rutan to try for orbital spaceplane? » 2004-09-17 14:22:26

I am also thinking that since Nasa is restructuring for exploration that it is time they started off loading specific projects that do not necessarily support that function.
It also was a part of a brief discussion at the appropriation hearing that when ask a question in that manner it was a if they wanted Nasa to sort of reduce its load of responsibilities.

#29872 Re: Human missions » NDSS National Department of Space Settlement - We've explored, now let's occupy! » 2004-09-17 13:31:26

Well if I am the payload you could get 4 of me in it plus food to go and still have room to turn around inside it.

#29873 Re: Human missions » NDSS National Department of Space Settlement - We've explored, now let's occupy! » 2004-09-17 13:04:06

Sort of a single passenger express barely enough to get there with astronaut in a suit, with just enough air to get to safety.

#29874 Re: Human missions » Space Elevator vs Mars Direct - Anyone compare the costs? » 2004-09-17 10:59:35

Those that are not for space are not able to see the jobs or the income from working on such projects directly since they themselves are not part of it. They hear of the large sums of money spent but see very little in actual hardware for it. It is the intangables that they can not be seen, that is where all the money has gone.

#29875 Re: Human missions » China The Dominant Superpower In 20 Years..... - What does this mean for US? » 2004-09-17 10:54:27

Once they do develope heavy lift capability, they could then move armies if they should chose to do so. So we should keep that in mind, if we think that they are a military threat. I would rather chose to think they will not be so.

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