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Yes, coal can be used in engines similar to wood gas systems, using a gasifier to create flammable synthesis gas (syngas) from the solid fuel, which is then filtered and fed to a modified internal combustion engine, though wood/charcoal was more common during WWII
fuel shortages;
both work by heating fuel in low oxygen to produce combustible gases like Carbon Monoxide (\(CO\)) and Hydrogen (\(H_{2}\)) for powering vehicles or generators, with coal offering steadier, hotter burns but requiring more robust filtration for dust.How Gasification Works (Wood & Coal) Gasification Process:
The fuel (wood, charcoal, or coal) is heated to high temperatures (900-1200°C) in a reactor with restricted air, causing partial combustion and thermal decomposition (pyrolysis).Syngas Production:
This process creates a flammable gas mixture, primarily Carbon Monoxide (\(CO\)) and Hydrogen (\(H_{2}\)), known as synthesis gas or "wood gas" (even with coal).Cooling & Filtering:
The hot gas is cooled and filtered to remove tar, water, and ash particles, preventing engine damage.Engine Fuel: The cleaned syngas is then drawn into the engine (like a car or generator) to power it, replacing gasoline. Similarities &Differences Principle:
The fundamental gasification principle is identical for wood and coal, converting solid fuel into a usable gas.Fuel Handling: Coal burns hotter and longer but produces more dust, requiring better filtration than some wood setups.Usage:
Both were used during fuel shortages (like WWII) to run vehicles and generators, with wood gas more prevalent due to fuel rationing. Engine Adaptations Standard internal combustion engines can be modified to run on this gas by adding the gasifier unit, filters, and controls.Systems often include a hopper for fuel, a reactor/burn chamber, filters (cyclone, radiator), and a blower
To make carbon monoxide, carbon must be burned in an atmosphere with limited oxygen. This releases about 20% of the heat released by complete combustion. The process that Kbd512 has described produces particles of carbon. So that is what we start with. Carbon monoxide has important uses of its own. One such use is the production of reduced iron. Making strong engineering bricks is another use we have noted. But it is a precursor to other more convenient fuels. For example:
CO + H2O + heat = CO2 + H2
2H2 + CO = CH3OH.This is methanol. It is a clean burning liquid fuel that doesn't freeze until -97°C. We could store it in tanks on Mars with very little pressurisation.
Yes light measurement is problematic as we all referrence light intensity as watts rather than lumens.
The brightness of the sun on Earth is not measured in a single lumen value, as lumens measure total light output and the brightness perceived on Earth varies by location and atmospheric conditions. Instead, a common way to quantify it is in lux, which measures illuminance per square meter. At its peak, direct sunlight can reach approximately 100,000 to 140,000 lux. Peak sunlight: A clear, direct sun at its highest point in the sky can deliver a very intense illuminance of around 100,000 to 140,000 lux.Atmospheric effects: The exact amount of lux on the ground varies based on the sun's position and atmospheric conditions like cloud cover, which scatter and filter the light.Power vs. lumens: The sun's total power output is about \(1360\) watts per square meter above the atmosphere (the solar constant). However, lux is a better measure for how bright it appears to the human eye because it accounts for the varying sensitivity of our vision across different wavelengths of light
light electromagnetic spectrum
tahanson43206,
If you have to carry the fuel and oxidizer with you, as you would on any planet except Earth, then pure Carbon doesn't require extra Oxygen atoms to combine with the Hydrogen atoms.
Kilograms of Pure Oxygen for Complete Combustion of 1kg of fuel:
Pure Carbon (32.8MJ/kg; 1kg powdered graphite = 1.05-1.15L; 28.52MJ/L): 2.67kg (2.34L); 3.49L ttl vol, 9.40MJ/L incl O2
Gasoline (44-46MJkg; 1kg = 1.2-1.4L; 32.86MJ/L): 2.3-2.7kg (2.37L); 3.77L ttl vol, 12.20MJ/L incl O2
Kerosene (43-46MJ/kg; 1kg = 1.25L; 36.8MJ/L): 2.93kg (2.57L); 3.82L ttl vol, 12.04MJ/L incl O2
Diesel (42-46MJ/kg; 1kg = 1.16-1.2L; 38.33MJ/L): 3.4kg (2.98L); 4.18L ttl vol, 11.00MJ/L incl O2
Methane (50-55.5MJ/kg; 1kg LCH4 = 2.36L; 23.52MJ/L): 4kg (3.51L); 5.87L ttl vol, 9.45MJ/L incl O2
Hydrogen (120-142MJ/kg; 1kg LH2 = 14.1L; 1L = 10.07MJ/L): 8kg (7.01L); 21.11L ttl vol, 6.73MJ/L incl O2LOX is 1,141kg/m^3 or 1.141kg/L
What can we conclude from that?
1. LH2 is a pretty pedestrian fuel when you need to store the cryogenic oxidizer, too.
2. There's not much difference between pure Carbon powder and Methane, except that making Methane is a lot more difficult and requires a lot more energy and technology than bubbling collected CO2 through a column of liquid Gallium eutectic. You need equipment to collect both H2O and CO2, a Sabatier reactor, a reverse fuel cell, and a really good electrical power source.
3. You do get 17% to 30% more energy per total volume by combusting diesel / kerosene / gasoline, in comparison to Carbon powder, but if you thought making Methane was energy intensive, you're going to need to add a lot more energy-intensive equipment to your chemistry set, and of course, you only get that additional energy by combusting it using additional O2 mass, which means you need to make more O2 from some combination of H2O and CO2. It's a pretty safe bet that all those additional chemical reaction steps will cannibalize whatever gains a dense liquid hydrocarbon fuel provides.
4. The relative complexity of obtaining LCO2 feedstock, on Earth or Mars, is pretty low. It's everywhere in the atmosphere and in the oceans here on Earth. Mars helps us out a bit by having a nearly-pure CO2 atmosphere, but at absurdly low density. Speaking of absurdly low density, LH2 looks great, best of all fuels, except when you must consider the mass of the storage equipment, and then it doesn't look so hot.
5. Of all the fuels listed, and any other liquid hydrocarbon fuels that weren't, if you throw a kilogram of Carbon on the ground, here on Earth or on Mars, that same kilogram of pure Carbon fuel will still be there the next day. We can't make the same claim about any of those other fuels. Carbon doesn't require special storage of any kind. If storing a cryogenic oxidizer is a pain we'd rather not deal with, then why compound the problem with fuels which also have special storage requirements?
Which means we have a place to ship Earths coal and a use for the raw ore.
these second is just a large scereen TV dis[lay for the rooms windows to give also what ever screen sceen is desired.
Slow Glass Individualized Service on Mars or Anywhere
third is to use typical room lighting LED fixtures as one wants.
Nice! The idea of projecting upward is particularly interesting! We could mount very light weight mirrors on the interior of the dome, and let the LED's projecting from below illuminate the entire interior.
The original idea was to mount panels on the interior wall, and that would have required lighting that would have needed cables to carry electricity, plus there would be need for periodic maintenance. Your suggestion of projecting light upwards would eliminate all those issues.
We actually had 2 different items for lighting for the inside of the dome and for the inside of the buildings.
First is the white wall of the inside of the dome can be used with a computer and several projector systems to lace any sceen that is desired.
or large-screen projection onto a wall, consider ultra short throw (UST) laser projectors which can create a massive, bright, 4K image from just inches away from the wall. For optimal image quality, especially in brightly lit rooms, pairing the projector with an Ambient Light Rejecting (ALR) screen is highly recommended.
Top Projector System Options
Here are some highly-rated projector systems suitable for large screens or walls:
Product Name Throw Type Resolution Brightness Key Features Price Range (USD)
Hisense PX3-PRO Ultra Short Throw (UST) 4K UHD 3,000 Lumens Google TV, Dolby Vision, great for gaming ~$3,000
Samsung The Premiere LPU9D Ultra Short Throw (UST) 4K UHD 3,450 Lumens Sleek design, smart capabilities with Alexa/Bixby, powerful built-in sound ~$6,000
Epson EpiqVision Ultra LS800 Ultra Short Throw (UST) 4K PRO-UHD 4,000 Lumens Android TV, Yamaha speakers, exceptionally bright picture in any lighting ~$2,800
Optoma HCPro-4400 Standard Throw 4K UHD 5,000 Lumens Dual laser, Dolby Vision/HDR10+, vertical/horizontal lens shift for flexible installation ~$6,000
Key Considerations for Your Setup
Throw Distance:
Ultra Short Throw (UST): Sits a few inches from the wall, ideal for small spaces or living rooms where a ceiling mount or long cable run is impractical.
Short Throw or Standard Throw: Requires more distance from the wall but can be installed at an angle or ceiling-mounted, offering more flexibility in some professional or dedicated home theater setups.
Ambient Light: Projectors with high lumen ratings (e.g., 3,000+ lumens) and/or an ALR screen perform well in brightly lit rooms. A plain white wall works best in a light-controlled (dark) room.
Screen vs. Wall: While you can project onto a wall, an Ambient Light Rejecting (ALR) screen is engineered with specific materials to reject ambient light, enhancing color, contrast, and overall picture quality dramatically compared to a painted wall.
Resolution: 4K UHD and 4K PRO-UHD projectors provide stunning clarity and detail on large displays, making for an immersive viewing experience
For a large screen or wall projection system, key factors are high brightness (lumens), high resolution (4K recommended), appropriate throw distance, and a quality ambient light rejecting (ALR) screen.
Here is a guide and some recommended systems in BBCode format:
Guide to Choosing a Large Screen Projector System
To ensure a vibrant, clear image on a large scale (120 inches or more), especially in rooms with ambient light, consider the following specifications:
Brightness (Lumens): For large screens in a dark room, 1,500-2,000 lumens might suffice. For rooms with moderate to high ambient light (e.g., living rooms, conference halls with windows), aim for 3,000 to 6,000+ lumens. Laser projectors often provide more consistent brightness and longer life than lamp-based models.
Resolution: For large screen sizes, 4K resolution (3840x2160 pixels) is highly recommended to prevent the image from looking pixelated.
Throw Distance:
Ultra Short Throw (UST): Sits just inches from the wall/screen, ideal for smaller rooms and avoiding shadows.
Standard/Long Throw: Placed further back, often ceiling mounted, requiring more room space.
Screen Type: A quality Ambient Light Rejecting (ALR) or Ceiling Light Rejecting (CLR) screen is crucial for maintaining image vibrancy in well-lit environments, as a standard white wall or screen will look washed out.
Recommended Projector Systems
Here are a few high-performance projectors suitable for large screens (up to 150 inches), along with general screen guidance:
High-End Home Cinema (Standard Throw)
Epson Pro Cinema LS12000: A premium 4K Pro-UHD laser projector with exceptional color and contrast ratio, ideal for dedicated home theaters. It features extensive motorized lens shift for flexible installation.
Brightness: 2,700 lumens
Light Source: Laser (rated for 20,000 hours)
Screen Pairing: Pairs well with a high-quality 120"+ matte white or high-contrast screen.
Ultra Short Throw (UST) (for bright rooms/living areas)
Epson EpiqVision Ultra LS800: One of the brightest UST projectors available, designed to be placed near the wall. It's bright enough to be used in well-lit rooms and can produce an image up to 150 inches.
Brightness: 4,000 lumens
Light Source: Laser
Screen Pairing: Requires a specific UST/ALR screen for best performance in ambient light.
Hisense PX3-PRO: A triple laser 4K UST projector that supports Dolby Vision and is great for gaming due to low input lag in game mode.
Brightness: Approx. 3,000 lumens
Light Source: Triple Laser
Screen Pairing: Best used with an ALR screen designed for UST projectors.
Large Venue/Auditorium (Professional Grade)
Optoma ZU820T: A powerful professional installation laser projector designed for large venues, offering very high brightness.
Brightness: 8,800 lumens
Light Source: Laser
Screen Pairing: Suitable for very large screens (over 150 inches) in large halls or auditoriums where high ambient light is a concern.
When selecting a screen, consider brands like Elite Screens, Da-Lite, or Spectra Projection which offer various sizes and materials optimized for different projector types and lighting conditions
a teired approach to what might be the shape of buildings within the dome.
https://newmars.com/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=7
possible homes within a large crator
https://newmars.com/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=4
individual LEDs are seperated into 3 levels types and even more for color spectrum.
30 Lumen
40 Lumens
50 for the bright Lumen
Most of us have seen the rope strips leds that not only have color but we can make a variety to go to mars.

If we have structures inside as noted in a couple of designs for inside for the people to live in such as multiple buildings.
The inside of the building will also need lighting as its not likely that we will have normal windows or doors for the structures.

For a Mars dome used for agriculture, the required LED lighting intensity should provide a Photosynthetic Photon Flux Density (PPFD) in the range of 400 to 1000 µmol/m²/s, depending on the growth stage and specific crop type. The specific dome dimensions (200m diameter, 120m tall) define the physical space, but the intensity is determined by the biological needs of the plants being grown within that space.
Key Metrics for Martian Agriculture Lighting
In a controlled-environment agriculture (CEA) setting like a Mars habitat, natural sunlight is generally insufficient or too hazardous due to radiation and dust, making artificial LED lighting the primary solution.
Photosynthetic Photon Flux Density (PPFD): This is the critical measurement for plant growth, quantifying the number of photosynthetically active photons (400-700 nm wavelength) that hit a square meter each second (µmol/m²/s).
Target Intensity Ranges (PPFD):
Seedlings/Clones: 200-400 µmol/m²/s.
Vegetative Growth: 400-600 µmol/m²/s.
Flowering/Fruiting (high-light plants): 600-1000 µmol/m²/s (or even higher with CO2 supplementation).
System Design Considerations
The large size of the dome requires a sophisticated lighting system design, likely utilizing a vast array of high-efficiency, full-spectrum LED fixtures rather than a few central lights.
Fixture Placement: To ensure even light distribution and the correct PPFD, fixtures would need to be strategically placed and potentially layered (e.g., in vertical farming racks).
Energy Efficiency: High-quality LEDs consume less power for the same light output. Given the energy constraints on Mars, maximizing efficiency is paramount.
Light Spectrum ("Light Recipes"): Different light spectra can optimize biomass or nutrient content. A full-spectrum or "white" light with some far-red might be chosen for balanced growth, while a red/blue mix could maximize certain phytonutrients.
Daily Light Integral (DLI): The total amount of light received over a day is also crucial. For high-yield crops, this typically ranges from 10-30 mol/m²/day.
Ultimately, the exact intensity will be a function of the specific crops selected for the habitat and the overall system design (e.g., if CO2 levels are elevated, higher light intensities can be utilized for maximum growth

A questioned raised is for people and more.
Of course you recognize that lighting is done with LED panels inside the dome.
The entire complex must be powered by a robust fission reactor. I assume the reactor will be some distance away from the dome, and one of the excavated volumes in the crater wall would be a logical place for such a system.
We can mount the LEDs in panels around the inside pointing towards the dome surface or you can mount them on poles to point upward rather than mounting them which could cause damage to the structure.
Stuff for crops
Crops
looking up at the top from the inside of a We finally know why Roman concrete has survived for nearly 2,000 years
This is one of the starships floor plans posts that make sense for crews first homes.
The terrraced over layed hill would have greater numbers for each floor
Energy requirement, mass of equipment, plus foot print volume required to send to Mars.
Repairability risk of parts not mechanical.
I was wondering about the larger what appears to be raised in the center but rimmed with a trough around them. It might be easier to use the large rimmed crators to at least visit to check them out as well.
This design can be built Horizontal or vertical in form https://www.instructables.com/55-Gallon-Drum-Turbine/
As noted in Housekeeping post if we do use Earth vehices we will need to modify them for the cold which will turn some fuels solid, others to gel and more. Each vehicle will need engine modifications.
Internal combustion engines for Mars
tahanson43206,
If you have to carry the fuel and oxidizer with you, as you would on any planet except Earth, then pure Carbon doesn't require extra Oxygen atoms to combine with the Hydrogen atoms.
Kilograms of Pure Oxygen for Complete Combustion of 1kg of fuel:
Pure Carbon (32.8MJ/kg; 1kg powdered graphite = 1.05-1.15L; 28.52MJ/L): 2.67kg (2.34L); 3.49L ttl vol, 9.40MJ/L incl O2
Gasoline (44-46MJkg; 1kg = 1.2-1.4L; 32.86MJ/L): 2.3-2.7kg (2.37L); 3.77L ttl vol, 12.20MJ/L incl O2
Kerosene (43-46MJ/kg; 1kg = 1.25L; 36.8MJ/L): 2.93kg (2.57L); 3.82L ttl vol, 12.04MJ/L incl O2
Diesel (42-46MJ/kg; 1kg = 1.16-1.2L; 38.33MJ/L): 3.4kg (2.98L); 4.18L ttl vol, 11.00MJ/L incl O2
Methane (50-55.5MJ/kg; 1kg LCH4 = 2.36L; 23.52MJ/L): 4kg (3.51L); 5.87L ttl vol, 9.45MJ/L incl O2
Hydrogen (120-142MJ/kg; 1kg LH2 = 14.1L; 1L = 10.07MJ/L): 8kg (7.01L); 21.11L ttl vol, 6.73MJ/L incl O2LOX is 1,141kg/m^3 or 1.141kg/L
What can we conclude from that?
1. LH2 is a pretty pedestrian fuel when you need to store the cryogenic oxidizer, too.
2. There's not much difference between pure Carbon powder and Methane, except that making Methane is a lot more difficult and requires a lot more energy and technology than bubbling collected CO2 through a column of liquid Gallium eutectic. You need equipment to collect both H2O and CO2, a Sabatier reactor, a reverse fuel cell, and a really good electrical power source.
3. You do get 17% to 30% more energy per total volume by combusting diesel / kerosene / gasoline, in comparison to Carbon powder, but if you thought making Methane was energy intensive, you're going to need to add a lot more energy-intensive equipment to your chemistry set, and of course, you only get that additional energy by combusting it using additional O2 mass, which means you need to make more O2 from some combination of H2O and CO2. It's a pretty safe bet that all those additional chemical reaction steps will cannibalize whatever gains a dense liquid hydrocarbon fuel provides.
4. The relative complexity of obtaining LCO2 feedstock, on Earth or Mars, is pretty low. It's everywhere in the atmosphere and in the oceans here on Earth. Mars helps us out a bit by having a nearly-pure CO2 atmosphere, but at absurdly low density. Speaking of absurdly low density, LH2 looks great, best of all fuels, except when you must consider the mass of the storage equipment, and then it doesn't look so hot.
5. Of all the fuels listed, and any other liquid hydrocarbon fuels that weren't, if you throw a kilogram of Carbon on the ground, here on Earth or on Mars, that same kilogram of pure Carbon fuel will still be there the next day. We can't make the same claim about any of those other fuels. Carbon doesn't require special storage of any kind. If storing a cryogenic oxidizer is a pain we'd rather not deal with, then why compound the problem with fuels which also have special storage requirements?
Mars Insitu Fuels made from atmosphere, regolith, water
Mars Water regolith soils 1 foot depth only

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To move 10 cubic meters of Mars regolith, you would need a tandem axle dump truck or a medium-to-large single-axle dump truck. A standard commercial tandem axle dump truck typically holds between 7.6 to 10.7 cubic meters (10 to 14 cubic yards) of material, making it a suitable option for exactly 10 cubic meters.
Dump Truck Options for 10 Cubic Meters
Medium Dump Truck (Single Axle):
These can hold a load volume of 3 to 6 cubic meters, so you would likely need two trips, or a very large single-axle model near its upper limit.Tandem Axle Dump Truck:
This is the most efficient option, as its typical capacity of 7.6 to 10.7 cubic meters can handle the entire volume in a single load. Some models can even handle up to 13 to 20 cubic meters.
Large Dump Truck (Tri-Axle/Super Dump): These trucks have capacities ranging from 13 to over 25 cubic meters, which would easily manage the load, though the truck might not be operating at full volumetric capacity.
Important ConsiderationsWeight vs. Volume:
The weight of the regolith (Martian soil) is a critical factor, even more so than volume. The density of material matters in determining the actual safe load capacity to avoid overloading the truck's weight limits.Martian Gravity:
The user's prompt specifies "Mars regolith," which implies an off-world scenario. The lower gravity on Mars (roughly 38% of Earth's gravity) would significantly alter the weight constraints and potentially allow a standard Earth-rated dump truck to carry a larger mass of material than it could on Earth, assuming the engineering for the martian environment is addressed.Equipment Specialization:
For actual off-world operations, the equipment would be specifically designed for the Martian environment, likely featuring wider cutting heads or different axle configurations to handle the unique terrain and gravity conditions.
How Many Cubic Yards Are in a Dump Truck?

Larger dump trucks can carry approximately 10 to 16 cubic yards of material. However, the total volume is not usually the limiting factor. In most cases, the vehicle’s weight limit will determine how much material you are ultimately able to safely transport.
So a dump truck that we could use is
A tri-axle dump truck typically weighs between 25,000 and 35,000 pounds when empty, but can weigh up to 80,000 pounds when fully loaded, depending on the load and local regulations. The specific weight varies based on the materials used to construct the truck (e.g., aluminum bodies are lighter than steel), the size and type of the dump body, and the weight of the fuel and driver

open pit seems to be the easiest to gather ore.
The equipment needed to make hot sulfur regolith bricks for Mars in-situ buildings involves machinery for excavation, material processing, heating/mixing, and automated construction, likely in the form of a robotic 3D printing system.
The key equipment can be categorized by function:
Raw Material Acquisition and Processing
Excavation Rovers/Machinery:
Automated diggers or rovers designed for low-gravity and remote operation to mine the Martian regolith (soil) and extract sulfur from sulfates and sulfides.
Crushing and Milling Equipment: Machines to break down the excavated regolith and sulfur compounds into a uniform aggregate size suitable for mixing and extrusion.
Chemical Processing Unit:
Equipment, possibly including a thermochemical or electrochemical processing system (like a solid oxide electrolysis cell), to refine the sulfur compounds into elemental sulfur, which is the required binder material.
Sieving/Separation Systems:
Mechanisms to ensure the proper particle size distribution of the regolith aggregate, as optimized mixtures can achieve higher compressive strengths.Brick Production and Construction
Storage and Feeding System:
Hoppers or containers to store the processed regolith and elemental sulfur and feed them at a precise, pre-designed weight ratio (around 65% aggregate to 35% sulfur is a common ratio) into the mixing apparatus.
Heated Mixer/Extruder:
A core component that heats the mixture to above sulfur's melting point (around 120°C) to liquefy the sulfur, uniformly mixes it with the regolith aggregate, and then extrudes the hot, molten sulfur concrete.
This system requires closed-loop heating control and monitoring systems to maintain precise temperature levels.
3D Printing System (Gantry or Robotic Arm):
An automated construction system that receives the hot mixture from the extruder and precisely deposits it in specific forms (layers) to build walls or structures directly on site.
Power Systems:
A robust, reliable power source is essential to run all the machinery, particularly the energy-intensive heating and processing units. This would likely involve solar panels and energy storage systems.Ancillary Equipment
Robotic Control Systems:
The entire operation is envisioned to be largely autonomous, requiring advanced robotic control and monitoring systems due to the communication lag with Earth and the need for reliable, continuous operation in a harsh environment.
Testing Apparatus:
Equipment to perform quality control tests on the finished material, such as compression and flexural strength testers, to ensure structural integrity.
Thermal Management Systems:
Equipment to manage heat and prevent issues like sulfur sublimation in a vacuum or under large temperature swings
Done as I did not see it but the topic is to collect types, mass and more for the equipment that is needed to be sent to mars.
https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 14#p155614
MARSHA:
Teslarati 3D-Printed Mars Habitat could be a perfect for early spaxeX starship colonies, MARSHA
I do https://www.teslarati.com/3d-printed-ma … -colonies/
Thanks for the link to others wanting to print habitats on mars or other places but what they do not go into is the prep side of the equation needed to make the materials to be use for the machinery to utilize it to build with from the insitu resources.
Very cone like indeed...
This is from AI SpaceFactory achieved second place in the latest phase of a NASA-led competition

If I do find the other simular posts I will copy them here so that we will have a list of whom are attempting the technology, the equipment and the materials information of what is targeted for insitu materials.
3D-printed Mars habitat a biorenewable plastic (PLA) reinforced with locally-sourced basalt fiber – also accounts for many of Mars’ shortcomings, as plastics happen to be some of the best materials for radiation shielding per unit of mass. Featuring a duo of PLA shells placing a meter or more of plastic between living areas, MARSHA would permit relatively acceptable radiation levels while avoiding the downsides of locating habitats underground or burying them under several meters of Martian regolith.

NASA's Centennial Challenges: 3-D Printed Habitat Challenge
https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/space … index.html
3D-Printed Habitat Challenge. NASA and its partners are holding a $3.15 million competition to build a 3D printed habitat for deep space exploration, including the agency’s journey to Mars. The multi-phase challenge is designed to advance the construction technology needed to create sustainable housing solutions for Earth and beyond.
https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/space … mpetition/
After two stages where NASA awarded a total of over $1 million to competitors, the final prize was awarded to the top 5 projects.
Something that I would suggest is dropping a unit in one of the analog areas and run the insitu use processes from scratch to see just how hard it is to prepare the raw materials to make it ready for use for the equipment. Measure and test all aspects of it so that we can have better control to what we might find from the earth use.
https://www.3dprintingmedia.network/top … mpetition/

Team Zopherus of Rogers, Arkansas – $20,957.95
AI. SpaceFactory of New York – $20,957.24
Kahn-Yates of Jackson, Mississippi – $20,622.74
SEArch+/Apis Cor of New York – $19,580.97
Northwestern University of Evanston, Illinois – $17,881.10

These are beautiful for sure

A very firmiliar designed floor layout
Oldfart1939 wrote:I did a bit of research on the Bobcat website last night, and perhaps we should include 2 excavators (tracked backhoes). They're heavier and more bulky than the front loader Bobcat skid-steer units, but these would allow excavation of habitat shelter trenches more rapidly and effectively than front-loader units.
I see you're doing construction. Not just the first exploration/science mission, but construction. The Mars Homestead project assumed 12 crew to construct the first permanent human base. Yes, we believed a construction vehicle was required. I would like to make a suggestion.
This is a typical Bobcat skid-steer loader. There are various sizes. This one is S450. ("S" for skid) Rated Operating Capacity: 1,370lb. Operating weight: 5,370lb
The thing that makes it "skid-steer" is it's wheels. It's wheels don't turn, to steer the vehicle you turn the wheels on one side while wheels on the other do not turn. Or to pivot in place, turn wheels on the other side backward. This means the wheels literally "skid" across the ground as it's steering. Be advised: operating this on grass will tear up the grass. This works very well on pavement or hard or very firm ground. It doesn't work so well on loose soil/dirt/sand/gravel at an incline.This is a typical Bobcat compact track loader. This one is T450. ("T" for track) ROC: 1,490lb. Operating weight: 6,424lb
Track vehicles work better on loose ground and inclines. The track provides more traction. I'm suggesting a compact track loader would be more appropriate for Mars.An excavator can be compact. The first is E10, Rated Lift Capacity 527lb, Operating weight 2,593lb. The second is E20, RLC 1,098lb, Operating weight 4,306lb.
https://assets.bobcat.com/excavators/misc/r-series/bobcat-e10-nav_pm_list.jpgBobcat has become known for compact construction vehicles. Other brands manufacture competing vehicles: John Deere, Case, Caterpillar, New Holland, others.
Heavy Equipment Guide: Companies by Skid-Steer LoadersAny vehicle would have to be customized for Mars. One suggestion I made was to manufacture the vehicle with titanium alloy instead of steel. Titanium has the same weight (mass), but greater strength. That allows making structural members like arms to lift the bucket thinner, so lighter. Hydraulics will have to be adjusted for extreme cold of Mars. And the engine can't breathe air, Mars has no oxygen. Well, practically none; not enough for combustion. When Robert Zubrin and David Baker proposed Mars Direct in 1990, they suggested using methane/oxygen because the ERV would need that for propellant anyway. Just make a bit more for the rover. But rather than using electricity to run ISPP, you could just operate the vehicle with electricity. At least one company specializes in electric conversion of Bobcat vehicles. And Bobcat themselves is working on all electric vehicles using lithium-ion batteries. They're even working on all electric actuators instead of hydraulics; intended for cold climates like Alaska.
Some of the equipment to be sent to mars
While no operational 3 m diameter TBM specifically for Mars currently exists, the development of such equipment is a key concept in proposed strategies for establishing a Martian colony.
Current Status of Mars Tunneling Equipment
Conceptual Stage:
Current discussions revolve around the concept of using tunneling technology for Mars habitats, providing protection from cosmic radiation and micrometeorites, and leveraging the thermal stability of the subsurface.
Earth-based Prototypes:
Companies like The Boring Company (TBC) are developing advanced, all-electric Tunnel Boring Machines (TBMs) for Earth-based projects (e.g., the Prufrock series, which creates a tunnel approximately 3.7m/12ft in diameter).Technology Transfer:
While TBC's current machines are unlikely to be deployed on Mars without significant modification, the technology and engineering experience gained (such as automation and faster boring speeds) are seen as foundational for developing future off-world systems.
Prototype Drills:
Research has been conducted on smaller-scale "3-meter-class Mars drill prototypes" for scientific exploration of the shallow subsurface, but these are for drilling, not large-scale tunneling for habitats.
Transportability:
A 3m-class TBM (or its segments) is considered potentially transportable by a SpaceX Starship, which has an 8m diameter cargo bay.Key Challenges for Martian TBMs
Atmosphere:
Earth TBMs use significant amounts of water for cooling and other operations, which would be a major challenge in Mars's cold, near-vacuum atmosphere.Automation:
Due to communication delays and the need for efficient pre-human construction, Martian equipment would require a high degree of automation and robotic operation.Geology & Materials:
The machines would need to be adapted to Mars's unique rock and soil conditions. Also, instead of concrete segments (which are heavy to transport), innovative methods like sintering the excavated rock or using local materials for tunnel lining would be necessary.In short, 3 m diameter equipment for Mars is an active area of conceptual development and technological aspiration, leveraging Earth-based innovations, but is not yet a developed or deployed product.
Elon Musk's Boring Company develops advanced tunnel boring machines (TBMs), like the Prufrock series, with the long-term goal of enabling underground Martian cities for radiation protection, resource extraction (ice/metals), and efficient habitat construction, potentially using Starship for transport, with Earth projects providing crucial tech and operational experience for Mars colonization needs. The technology focuses on rapid, automated tunneling, which is vital for establishing self-sufficient subterranean life on Mars, where surface conditions are harsh.
How Boring Company Tech Applies to Mars:
Radiation Shielding:
Mars' surface lacks atmosphere, exposing settlers to lethal radiation; burying habitats under Martian rock provides natural shielding.
Resource Utilization:
TBMs can excavate for essential water ice and minerals, crucial for life support and fuel.
Rapid Infrastructure:
High-speed, automated digging allows for quick creation of tunnels for transport (like Hyperloop) and pressurized living spaces, reducing human exposure to dangerous conditions.
Autonomous Operations:
Earth-based experience with "no prior site prep" TBMs (like Prufrock) prepares for robotic deployment on Mars for automated base building.Key Technologies & Challenges:
Prufrock TBMs:
Designed for rapid, continuous excavation, with capabilities to start digging immediately, a major leap from traditional methods.SpaceX Integration:
While Starship can carry heavy payloads, transporting massive TBMs (like 1,200-ton machines) poses a challenge, requiring multiple launches or lighter designs.
Atmospheric Advantage:
Mars' thin atmosphere makes underground Hyperloop tunnels ideal, as an artificial vacuum isn't needed.The Vision:
The Boring Company's work on Earth, including rapid tunneling for tunnels and loops, serves as a practical testbed for the advanced, automated digging needed for large-scale Martian settlements, fulfilling Musk's vision for a multi-planetary humanity.
I was reminded by Void while doing the daily recap of Boring on Mars.
Topic Drill Technology - Microwave - Traditional - Others
Of course we are talking Industrial development on Mars from landing,toehold, foothold and settlement to full blown colonization.
We need all types of equipment to dig into mars literally so as to make hospitable spaces for man to survive in and with in for a variety of reasons.
Also needed will be ore processing and brick making plus more to build on Mars.
Scientists and engineers have proposed several methods and "equipment" concepts for making bricks on Mars using local resources (in-situ resource utilization), primarily Martian regolith (soil). A key discovery is that simple compression, without binders or heat, can create bricks stronger than steel-reinforced concrete.
Proposed Equipment and Methods
Since transporting all construction materials from Earth would be prohibitively expensive, research focuses on using the iron oxide-rich Martian soil itself.
High-Pressure Mechanical Press/Hammer:
The most promising method uses sheer pressure. Researchers at UC San Diego accidentally discovered that by enclosing Mars simulant in a flexible container (like a rubber tube) and applying high pressure, they could form solid, strong pellets which can be cut into brick shapes. The necessary "equipment" could be a robotic, high-pressure compacting device or even a simple hammering mechanism operated by future astronauts.3D Printing Systems:
This is a major focus of ongoing research.
Regolith melting: One idea involves melting the regolith with lasers or focused solar energy and pouring it into molds, though this requires significant energy.
Binder extrusion:
Regolith could be mixed with a binder (polymer or even human-derived materials like blood plasma protein or urea) and extruded through a 3D printer to build structures autonomously.
Kilns/Furnaces:
Early proposals suggested using a nuclear-powered or solar furnace to bake the bricks, similar to ancient Earth methods. This method would require a significant power source and complex equipment to capture any released water for reuse.The equipment needed to create hot sulfur regolith bricks for Martian in-situ buildings involves machinery for excavation, processing, mixing, heating, and molding the materials. A 1200°C kiln is used for sintering processes with other potential binders, but for sulfur concrete, the required temperature is much lower (around 120°C to melt the sulfur).
Materials Acquisition & Processing
Excavation and Sifting Equipment:
Robotic excavators or rovers with digging mechanisms to collect the Martian regolith. Sifting or refining machinery may be needed to achieve the optimal particle size distribution for the aggregate.
Sulfur Extraction and Refining Unit:
A chemical processing plant to extract elemental sulfur from Martian sources (sulfides/sulfates), likely involving high-temperature oxidation and reduction processes.
Storage Tanks/Hoppers:
Secure storage for both the raw regolith powder and the extracted, refined sulfur (solid and liquid).Brick Production & Molding
Heated Mixer (e.g., Pugmill or Drum Mixer): An industrial mixer capable of hot-mixing the dry regolith aggregate with molten sulfur (liquid at ~120°C). The mixer must have robust seals to handle the abrasive dust and potentially a controlled atmosphere (CO₂-rich).Heating System/Kiln:
While a 1200°C kiln is used for other methods like sintering, sulfur bricks only need a melting temperature of around 120°C. This heating could be powered by a solar furnace or a nuclear reactor's waste heat. The system needs precise temperature control to prevent boiling and ensure uniform heating.Molding/Casting System:
Molds (potentially made from 3D printed durable thermoplastics like PEEK or metal) or a robotic extrusion system (like a 3D printer) to form the liquid mixture into desired brick shapes.
Curing Area:
A controlled environment where the bricks can cool and solidify (harden through physical crystallization, not hydration).
Power Supply:
A robust, reliable power source (e.g., solar panels with battery storage or a fission reactor) capable of powering all machinery autonomously.Ancillary and Support Equipment
Autonomous Robotic Systems:
The entire process is envisioned to be highly automated due to limited human labor on Mars.
Dust Mitigation Systems:
Given the pervasive, fine nature of regolith dust, equipment must incorporate advanced seals and filtration to prevent damage and contamination.
Quality Control and Testing Apparatus:
Equipment to test the compressive and flexural strength of the final bricks to ensure they meet structural requirements.
Thermal Management Systems:
Equipment to manage the significant temperature variations and maintain consistent operating temperaturesBiomaterial Production Systems: Emerging research involves using synthetic biology, like engineered lichens or bacteria, to create a self-growing, concrete-like material from the Martian soil. This would require specialized bioreactor equipment and the necessary organic inputs.
Key Advantage
The simple, no-bake, no-binder method using a mechanical press is a leading candidate because it requires the least amount of complex machinery, energy, and additional materials transported from Earth, making it highly practical for initial manned missions
First images where we saw Frost 
https://science.nasa.gov/mission/viking-1/
We have longed to get man on mars and how many landers or rovers do we need before we attempto see man on mars?