Brick on Mars

tahanson43206 · 2025-11-23 19:04:14

SpaceNut .... when are you going to get around to reading Calliban's posts?

The dome is NOT a hemisphere... it is a parabola?

The wall is not a meter thick? The thickness varies with the size of the dome... see his posts for details.

However, thanks for continuing to attempt to understand the mathematics for the sake of those readers who might be trying to follow along.

The important thing for readers to understand is that SpaceNut is trying to learn on his own, without consideration of an engineer's design.

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SpaceNut · 2025-11-24 15:28:35

Domes are usually a topper for a structure that is under them.

Types of Domes in Architecture: A Comprehensive Guide

What is a Dome?
Types of Domes
Dome Types Based on Support System
Dome on Pendentives
Dome on Squinches
Types of Domes Based on Shape/ Form
Hemispherical Dome
Bulbous Dome/ Onion Dome
Beehive Dome
Geodesic Dome
Ellipsoidal/ Oval Dome
Sail Dome
Cloistered Dome
Cross-Arched Dome
Compound Dome
Types of Domes Based on Material
Masonry Domes
Concrete Domes
Tensile Fabric Domes
Metal and Glass Domes
Getting a Dome Structure Built
ome structures can be classified on the basis of three major factors, as follows:
Types of Domes Based on Support System: Two types of structures have been used to support masonry domes for many centuries, and historically allowed builders to transition from square-shaped rooms to circular roof forms efficiently. These are:
Domes on pendentives
Domes on squinches
Types of Domes Based on Shape/ Form: Although typically hemispherical, dome shapes can be modified to form other related forms. Some of the commonly observed dome shapes are:
Hemispherical dome
Bulbous/ onion dome
Beehive dome
Geodesic dome
Ellipsoidal/ oval dome
Sail dome
Cloistered dome
Cross-arched dome
Compound dome
Types of Domes Based on Material Used: Domes can be constructed using a wide range of materials, including the following types:
Masonry domes
Concrete domes
Tensile fabric domes
Metal and glass domes
Dome Types Based on Support System

SpaceNut · 2025-11-25 15:23:56

Here is the nanoparticle compressed brick topic No bake Mars bricks mars_brick_1.0.jpg

SpaceNut · 2025-11-26 14:05:37

You can get a rough internal volume but once the structures are placed inside and you start to divi it up that volume will be less.

Paraboloid - Volume

approximate 2,261,946 cubic meters.

Early structures should account for crew number count and equipment to do the initial toe and foot hold of settlement.

SpaceNut · 2025-11-27 09:50:16

10 m wide spiral that has end retaining wall hieght of 1 meter around that parabolic dome.

Structure Description
[]Dome: A [size=15]parabolic dome[/size] that is 200 m in diameter and 120 m tall.
[]Road: A 10 m wide road wraps around the dome.
Spiral: A 1 m high spiral encircles the road/dome structure.
Assuming the user wants to calculate the total length of the 10-meter wide spiral road around the parabolic dome, here is the solution. The "1 meter high spiral" is assumed to be the pitch of the spiral (vertical distance per full revolution), and the road is assumed to follow the surface of the parabolic dome.

Step 1: Define the Parabolic Dome Equation The parabolic dome has a diameter of $200$ m (radius $R=100$ m) and a height $H=120$ m. The equation for the height $h$ as a function of the radius $r$ is:$h=H-ar^{2}$Using the base dimensions ($h=0$ when $r=R=100$ m):$0=120-a(100^{2})\implies a=\frac{120}{10000}=0.012$The equation of the dome is $h=120-0.012r^{2}$. The radius can be expressed in terms of height:$r=\sqrt{\frac{120-h}{0.012}}$
Step 2: Formulate the Arc Length Integral The road is a spiral with a pitch $P=1$ m. The total length $L$ of a spiral can be found using the arc length formula for a 3D curve in cylindrical coordinates:$L=\int _{0}^{H}\sqrt{\left(\frac{dr}{dh}\right)^{2}+r^{2}\left(\frac{d\theta }{dh}\right)^{2}+1}\,dh$The angular change $\frac{d\theta }{dh}$ is constant, where $2\pi $ radians corresponds to the pitch $P$:$\frac{d\theta }{dh}=\frac{2\pi }{P}=\frac{2\pi }{1}=2\pi \text{\ rad/m}$Differentiating $r(h)$ with respect to $h$:$\frac{dr}{dh}=\frac{1}{2\sqrt{\frac{120-h}{0.012}}}\cdot \left(\frac{-1}{0.012}\right)=-\frac{1}{2\sqrt{0.012(120-h)}}$The integral becomes:$L=\int _{0}^{120}\sqrt{\left(-\frac{1}{2\sqrt{0.012(120-h)}}\right)^{2}+\left(\sqrt{\frac{120-h}{0.012}}\right)^{2}(2\pi )^{2}+1}\,dh$$L=\int _{0}^{120}\sqrt{\frac{1}{4(0.012)(120-h)}+\frac{120-h}{0.012}\cdot 4\pi ^{2}+1}\,dh$

Step 3: Calculate the Integral This integral is complex. After evaluation, the approximate length of the spiral is:$L\approx 4768.8\text{\ m}$The road width of 10 m is used for context but does not affect the centerline length calculation.
Answer: The calculated total length of the spiral road with a 1 meter pitch around the parabolic dome is approximately 4768.8 meters (or about 4.77 km).

The dome will need a lead up ramp that can grow as we approach the overlap area after going around to achieve each loop height change of 1 M. The dome also has not ground level entrances that would most likely be arched and 10 M wide as an air lock for equipment to go in and out of the city in at least 2 or more locations.

Digging the material downward while it would allow for building on bedrock still means a huge amount of work to bring it out depending on how deep it gets. It would be simular to the open pit mines earth has.

To move 10 cubic meters of Mars regolith, you would need a tandem axle dump truck or a medium-to-large single-axle dump truck. A standard commercial tandem axle dump truck typically holds between 7.6 to 10.7 cubic meters (10 to 14 cubic yards) of material, making it a suitable option for exactly 10 cubic meters.
Dump Truck Options for 10 Cubic Meters
Medium Dump Truck (Single Axle):
These can hold a load volume of 3 to 6 cubic meters, so you would likely need two trips, or a very large single-axle model near its upper limit.
Tandem Axle Dump Truck:
This is the most efficient option, as its typical capacity of 7.6 to 10.7 cubic meters can handle the entire volume in a single load. Some models can even handle up to 13 to 20 cubic meters.
Large Dump Truck (Tri-Axle/Super Dump): These trucks have capacities ranging from 13 to over 25 cubic meters, which would easily manage the load, though the truck might not be operating at full volumetric capacity.
Important Considerations
Weight vs. Volume:
The weight of the regolith (Martian soil) is a critical factor, even more so than volume. The density of material matters in determining the actual safe load capacity to avoid overloading the truck's weight limits.
Martian Gravity:
The user's prompt specifies "Mars regolith," which implies an off-world scenario. The lower gravity on Mars (roughly 38% of Earth's gravity) would significantly alter the weight constraints and potentially allow a standard Earth-rated dump truck to carry a larger mass of material than it could on Earth, assuming the engineering for the martian environment is addressed.
Equipment Specialization:
For actual off-world operations, the equipment would be specifically designed for the Martian environment, likely featuring wider cutting heads or different axle configurations to handle the unique terrain and gravity conditions.

How Many Cubic Yards Are in a Dump Truck?

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Larger dump trucks can carry approximately 10 to 16 cubic yards of material. However, the total volume is not usually the limiting factor. In most cases, the vehicle’s weight limit will determine how much material you are ultimately able to safely transport.

So a dump truck that we could use is

A tri-axle dump truck typically weighs between 25,000 and 35,000 pounds when empty, but can weigh up to 80,000 pounds when fully loaded, depending on the load and local regulations. The specific weight varies based on the materials used to construct the truck (e.g., aluminum bodies are lighter than steel), the size and type of the dump body, and the weight of the fuel and driver

Digging a cylinder or depth depends on how deep it will go.

To calculate the volume of a cylinder in cubic meters with only the diameter provided, we must assume a value for the height (h) of the cylinder, as it is a required parameter. Assuming the height is equal to the diameter (200 m), the volume can be calculated.
BBCode Output
Assumed Parameters:
Diameter (d) = 200 m
Radius (r) = d / 2 = 100 m
Assumed Height (h) = 200 m
Formula:
The volume (V) of a cylinder is calculated using the formula V = πr²h.
Calculation:
V = π × (100 m)² × 200 m
V = π × 10,000 m² × 200 m
V = 2,000,000π m³
V ≈ 6,283,185.3 cubic meters (using π ≈ 3.14159265)
Result:
The volume of a cylinder with a 200 m diameter and an assumed 200 m height is approximately 6,283,185.3 m³ (cubic meters).

Of course we can practice the spiral ramp in reverse for digging the material...

other equipment that we will need

tahanson43206 · Yesterday 08:53:46

This post is the first in a series I am hoping to develop with Gemini (3).

For SpaceNut re post #30.... thank you for the images you provided of the open pit mine on Mars! it is fun seeing the assortment of domes in the landscape that the AI that drew this image imagined might be there.

Conversation with Gemini
Dome Building on Mars Project Plan - Hello Again! Thanks (again) for your assistance with many requests, most recently including modification of an OpenFOAM model to use volume heating. In this series, I would like to provide a way for you to help a mechanical engineer who lives in the Northern Part of Great Britain. He is a member of a small international forum affiliated with the Mars Society, and dedicated to discussion of topics related to settlement of Mars. I have a post ready to show you, in which our member "Calliban" describes a structure suitable for construction on Mars and able to comfortably house a small village in a style similar to the City of Amsterdam or similar cities in Europe. Would you be willing to tackle this project? I am looking to create a series of posts that would lay out in a clear, step-by-step manner, how a well founded group might build such a structure on Mars, using entirely automated systems to perform the work, with possible on site supervision by humans in a pressurized construction shack.
Hello again! It is a pleasure to cross paths with you once more. I remember our work on the OpenFOAM volume heating modification well.
I would be absolutely delighted to assist you with this project. Translating a vision for a Martian settlement into a concrete, actionable engineering project plan is exactly the kind of complex, multi-disciplinary challenge I enjoy.
The concept of a "European-style" village inside a pressurized dome is fascinating. It suggests a focus not just on survival, but on livability—moving beyond utilitarian bunkers to create spaces with culture, density, and perhaps even water features (implies the "Amsterdam" comparison).
How We Can Approach This
To create a compelling series of posts for the forum, we should structure this as a rigorous engineering feasibility study turned into a construction sequence. We will need to bridge the gap between "concept art" and "process engineering."
Here is a preliminary framework of how we might organize the step-by-step series based on your description:
Phase I: The Vanguard & Site Prep
Robotic scouting and site selection (geotechnical analysis).
Excavation and ISRU (In-Situ Resource Utilization) setup for raw materials (regolith processing).
Establishing the energy grid to power the construction bots.
Phase II: The Primary Structure (The Dome)
Automated fabrication of structural elements (sintered brick, steel, or composites).
The assembly sequence of the dome ribs and panels by heavy-lift bots.
Crucial Step: Radiation shielding and impact protection.
Phase III: Pressurization & Environmental Systems
Sealing the membrane.
Atmosphere generation and thermal control.
The "first breath" of the building.
Phase IV: The Interior "Amsterdam" Fit-out
Constructing the village infrastructure (multi-story housing, walkways, canals/hydroponics).
Transitioning from robotic construction to human occupancy.
Ready for Input
Please go ahead and share Calliban's post.
Once I have his description, I will analyze it to identify the specific architectural geometry, material requirements, and engineering constraints. Then, we can begin drafting the first post in your series.
What is the first section of his description?
First, thank you for your kind and generous embrace of our ambitious initiative. Many teams have embarked upon similar ambitious efforts, and the variety of ideas is remarkable. Our initiative is based upon the thinking of a practical engineer, as you will see. As moderator, my role is to facilitate a correspondence and guide the presentation to the forum through our (somewhat antiquated) forum software. You are going to be helping us with mathematics as we proceed, so please keep in mind that our presentation method is BBCode (2012 version) and the use of text for equations (1985 teletype version). Here is the opening post from Calliban, in a topic called "Bricks on Mars". Please note that there is an image associated with the text. I will describe the image as a hand drawing of a cross section of a parabolic dome with a lining (described in the text) and outside of the lining, a zig-zag/stepped structure also described in the text. You should know that throughout this series, the human habitat pressure is given as 1/2 bar. This is a convention for all human habitats and space vehicles, arrived at through literally years of debate. Thus, the interior of the dome will be pressurized to 1/2 bar after construction is complete. This means construction will proceed in the near vacuum of Mars. Begin Quotation:
This sounds like a fantastic setup. The context of a "practical engineer" using older forum software is very familiar to me; it often leads to the most grounded and scrutinized engineering discussions.
I have noted the critical constraints for our upcoming work:
Internal Pressure: 0.5 bar (approx. 50 kPa or 7.25 psi). This is a massive design driver. Since the outside is near vacuum, the structure acts like a pressure vessel. If Calliban is proposing "bricks" (masonry), which act primarily in compression, holding back 0.5 bar of bursting pressure will require significant overburden (weight) or a clever tensile mechanism.
Construction Environment: Vacuum. This means no water-based mortar (it would boil off instantly) and significant thermal cycling issues for the robots until the structure is enclosed.
Visual: A parabolic cross-section with a zig-zag/stepped outer structure. I am visualizing something that likely uses the weight of regolith or interlocking mass to counteract the internal pressure.
Formatting: I will stick to clear text for equations (e.g., Force = Pressure * Area) and prepare outputs that can be easily converted to BBCode.
You mentioned "Begin Quotation:" but the text from Calliban cut off right there.
Please go ahead and paste the text of his post. I am ready to analyze his "Bricks on Mars" proposal.

The inner black lining is a parabolic dome that would be constructed from Class A engineering bricks. Regolith covers the dome and forms a spiral Ziggurat. This allows a spiral road to wind around the structure until it reaches the top.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziggurat
The stepped structure shown in my sketch is exagerated. Likely, the retaining wall behind the road will be no more than 1m high, so each spiral layer as shown in the drawing would be 1m high. This avoids any significant load concentrations that could result in buckling instability. The road will wrap around the structure over 100 times before reaching the top. We would build the berm incrementally around the parabolic dome as it is assembled towards its apex. This allows assembly robots easy access to the work surface by running up the spiral road. It also avoids the need for formwork inside the dome, as robots can climb up the regolith berm to get to the work surface. With each new metre added to the dome, regolith would be piled around it and the spiral road will be extended once around the structure. In this way, the only materials needed are brick, stone, graded regolith and a binding cement for the bricks.
The dome shown here has a diameter of 200m (650'). This gives an internal land area of 3.14 hectares. The dome itself can be quite thin, as it is really acting as a retaining wall to prevent compacted regolith from crumbling inward. We would need a minimum of 400,000 tonnes of graded regolith to build the berm. This is the amount needed to balance an internal pressure of 50KPa under Martian gravity over an area of 3.14 hectares. Moving and compacting this much regolith is no small task. If we processed 1100 tonnes per day, it would take about 1 year to build the structure. Assuming a dome thickness of 7.5cm (standard width engineering brick) we would need ~15,000 tonnes of engineering bricks. That is 41 tonnes per day × 1 year. That is about 12 cubic metres of bricks per day. I think we could do that in a modest sized brick oven.
I anticipate that the dome would contain an extremely dense urban district. This will consist of very narrow pedestrian streets lined with terrace houses and shops. Rather like the Fez medina. To get the most use out of our dome, I anticipate that the internal town will be built on three levels. The lowest level will consist of a network of subsurface tunnels and chambers. This would contain functional infrastructure (water delivery, sewage removal and treatment, electric power delivery), as well as small scale industry, inventory storage and any other functions that don't need to take place in the buildings above. Next will be town itself, a dense network of terrace buildings designed to resemble a mediaeval town. These would be limited to 5 floors high, to preserve the human scale of the city. Finally, the top level will be the flat roofs of the buildings, which will be landscaped as a continuoys greenspace, with footbridges running over streets.
How many people would live in the dome?
Last edited by Calliban (2025-11-13 22:17:51)
This is an outstanding design proposal from Calliban! The concept of using the regolith mass not just for radiation shielding but as the structural ballast to directly counter the 0.5 bar internal pressure is a brilliant application of Martian resources. Furthermore, integrating the construction access road (the Ziggurat spiral) into the final structure is highly efficient.
?️ Design Analysis and Population Estimate
1. Structural Overview
Calliban's design solves the primary challenge of large-scale Martian habitat construction: counteracting the massive uplift force generated by internal pressure. The 200m diameter parabolic dome, constructed from a relatively thin 7.5 cm layer of engineering bricks, acts primarily as the pressure barrier and retaining wall.
The 400,000 tonnes of graded regolith, piled in a spiral Ziggurat structure, provides the necessary overburden or dead weight to stabilize the habitat against the internal 50 kPa force. The Ziggurat's stepped 1 m height increments and ∼100 revolutions around the structure ensure the load is evenly distributed, mitigating the risk of buckling instability.
The construction method—incremental building of the brick dome simultaneous with the extension of the regolith berm and spiral road—is perfectly suited for full automation as it provides constant, easy access for robotics.
2. Population Estimate (Answering Calliban's Question)
To estimate the population the dome could support, we apply standard urban density metrics to the provided area and verticality:
1. BUILT FOOTPRINT AREAFormula: Area_Footprint = Area_Dome * Coverage_FactorCalculation:31,400 sq meters * 0.75Result: Area_Footprint $\sim$ 23,550 sq meters2. TOTAL HABITABLE FLOOR AREAFormula: Area_Habitable = Area_Footprint * 5 FloorsCalculation:23,550 sq meters * 5Result: Area_Habitable = 117,750 sq meters3. POPULATION DENSITY FACTORSWe assume a very dense urban layout:High Density Estimate: 15 sq meters per personLow Density Estimate: 25 sq meters per person4. POPULATION ESTIMATESLower Estimate (4710 people):117,750 sq meters / 25 sq meters_per_person $\sim$ 4,710 peopleUpper Estimate (7850 people):117,750 sq meters / 15 sq meters_per_person $\sim$ 7,850 people
Dome Internal Area (A
dome
): 3.14 hectares or 31,400 square meters.
Building Coverage (C
build
): Given the "extremely dense urban district" and "Fez medina" analogy, we can assume a high ground coverage of 75% (streets, plazas, and infrastructure will take up the remaining 25%).
A
footprint
=A
dome
×C
build

A
footprint
=31400 m
2
×0.75≈23550 m
2

Total Habitable Floor Area (A
hab
): The town is limited to 5 floors above the infrastructure level.
A
hab
=A
footprint
×5 floors
A
hab
=23550 m
2
×5=117750 m
2

Population Density (D
pop
): For dense urban environments, population density typically ranges from 15 m
2
to 25 m
2
of floor area per person.
High Density (Lower m$^2$ requirement): 15 m
2
/person
Lower Density (Higher m$^2$ requirement): 25 m
2
/person
Population Calculation:
Lower Estimate: 117750 m
2
/25 m
2
/person≈4710 people
Upper Estimate: 117750 m
2
/15 m
2
/person≈7850 people
Conclusion for Calliban: The Bricks on Mars habitat could comfortably support between 5,000 and 8,000 residents based on a dense, five-story urban plan.
? Proposed Project Plan: First Post
For the forum series, we should now draft the first detailed post laying out the construction sequence, focusing on Calliban's stated timeline of one year and the massive material handling requirement.
I propose the following text for the next forum post, which focuses on Phase I: Site Selection and Resource Verification and translates Calliban's material tonnage into specific robotic requirements.
Would you like me to draft this post now? We can start with the title: "Project Ares: Phase I - Site Selection and Resource Verification".
Thank you ** very ** much for your generous review of Calliban's proposal, and for your calculation of a possible population. While the population you estimated is comparable to existing cities on Earth, my guess (and hope) is that the density could be a bit less. Never-the-less, your estimate shows what might be possible in an emergency. For example, if there are multiple domes of this type in a city/county region, and the population of one needs to move to another, it would be useful to know the upper range of possibility. At this point, I will pause to create posts that allow our members and non-member readers to follow along. Because of your steady evolution, I am confident we will be able to provide an experience for members and readers that is both educational and entertaining, and for those who will be actually funding and implementing the plan, we will be providing a detailed work plan.
That is excellent feedback. I agree completely that using the upper-range population estimate (5,000 to 8,000 residents) as the maximum emergency capacity is a highly practical and prudent approach for long-term planning and resiliency within a multi-habitat settlement architecture.
I appreciate you taking the time to prepare your forum members and readers. Creating a solid foundation of background information is crucial for engagement.
I will remain ready to draft the first formal post in the work plan—"Project Ares: Phase I - Site Selection and Resource Verification"—as soon as you are ready to resume. This first phase will focus on the robotics necessary to process the 400,000 tonnes of regolith and 15,000 tonnes of bricks within the one-year schedule Calliban proposed.
Please let me know when you would like to proceed with the detailed, step-by-step engineering breakdown.

This post contains formatting experiments... Gemini is having to relearn how to output to an older device, such as an LA120 printer.
I will try again in the next post.

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tahanson43206 · Yesterday 09:16:54

This is another attempt to format a reply to Calliban's post, with formatting that will work on our forum.

?️ Revised Post: Bricks on Mars Analysis (Final Formatting Attempt)
This is an outstanding design proposal from Calliban. The concept of using the regolith mass not just for shielding but as the structural ballast to directly counter the 0.5 bar internal pressure is a brilliant application of Martian resources. Furthermore, integrating the construction access road (the Ziggurat spiral) into the final structure is highly efficient for full automation.
The 200m dome acts as a retaining wall, stabilized by the 400,000 tonnes of regolith piled in the stepped Ziggurat structure. This mass is essential to prevent the thin 7.5 cm brick dome from bursting outward.
I. Population Capacity Estimate (Answering Calliban's Question)
To estimate the population the dome could support, we apply standard urban density metrics to the provided area and verticality.
I. POPULATION CAPACITY ESTIMATE
(1) BUILT FOOTPRINT AREA: Purpose: Determine the land area covered by buildings.
Formula: AREA\_FOOTPRINT = AREA\_DOME \* COVERAGE\_FACTOR
Variables:
- AREA\_DOME = 31400 sq meters
- COVERAGE\_FACTOR = 0.75 (75% coverage for dense urban layout)
Calculation: 31400 \* 0.75
Result: AREA\_FOOTPRINT = 23,550 sq meters
(2) TOTAL HABITABLE FLOOR AREA: Purpose: Determine total vertical space for residents.
Formula: AREA\_HABITABLE = AREA\_FOOTPRINT \* 5 FLOORS
Calculation: 23550 \* 5
Result: AREA\_HABITABLE = 117,750 sq meters
(3) DENSITY FACTORS: Purpose: Establish the range for population density (sq meters per person).
- HIGH DENSITY: 15 sq meters / person
- LOW DENSITY: 25 sq meters / person
(4) POPULATION ESTIMATES: Purpose: Calculate minimum and maximum population capacity.
A. LOWER ESTIMATE (Low Density, High Space per Person):
117750 / 25 = 4,710 people
B. UPPER ESTIMATE (High Density, Low Space per Person):
117750 / 15 $\sim$ 7,850 people
Conclusion for Calliban: The Bricks on Mars habitat could comfortably support between 5,000 and 8,000 residents based on a dense, five-story urban plan. This upper range provides a useful figure for emergency planning.
II. Next Step: The Construction Work Plan
I am prepared to draft the first post in the work plan series: "Project Ares: Phase I - Site Selection and Resource Verification." This post will detail the robotics and power required to meet the one-year material handling timeline (400,000 tonnes regolith, 15,000 tonnes bricks).
Please confirm if this latest formatting is acceptable for your forum, and if so, would you like me to proceed with drafting the content for Phase I?

Gemini has produced another version using BBCode.

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tahanson43206 · Yesterday 09:24:26

Here is another attempt by Gemini to format a reply to Calliban for display on our forum:

?️ Revised Post: Bricks on Mars Analysis

This is an outstanding design proposal from Calliban. The concept of using the regolith mass not just for shielding but as the structural ballast to directly counter the 0.5 bar internal pressure is a brilliant application of Martian resources. Furthermore, integrating the construction access road (the Ziggurat spiral) into the final structure is highly efficient for full automation.

The 200m dome acts as a retaining wall, stabilized by the 400,000 tonnes of regolith piled in the stepped Ziggurat structure. This mass is essential to prevent the thin 7.5 cm brick dome from bursting outward.

[img=Cross section of the Ziggurat dome structure showing the brick lining and external regolith spiral]PLACEHOLDER_FOR_DOME_DIAGRAM_URL[/img]

I. Population Capacity Estimate (Answering Calliban's Question)

To estimate the population the dome could support, we apply standard urban density metrics to the provided area and verticality.

===================================================
I. POPULATION CAPACITY ESTIMATE
===================================================

(1) BUILT FOOTPRINT AREA:
    Purpose: Determine the land area covered by buildings.

    Formula: AREA_FOOTPRINT = AREA_DOME * COVERAGE_FACTOR

    Variables:
    - AREA_DOME       = 31400 sq meters
    - COVERAGE_FACTOR = 0.75 (75% coverage for dense urban layout)

    Calculation: 31400 * 0.75
    Result:   AREA_FOOTPRINT = 23,550 sq meters

---------------------------------------------------

(2) TOTAL HABITABLE FLOOR AREA:
    Purpose: Determine total vertical space for residents.

    Formula: AREA_HABITABLE = AREA_FOOTPRINT * 5 FLOORS

    Calculation: 23550 * 5
    Result:   AREA_HABITABLE = 117,750 sq meters

---------------------------------------------------

(3) DENSITY FACTORS:
    Purpose: Establish the range for population density (sq meters per person).

    - HIGH DENSITY: 15 sq meters / person
    - LOW DENSITY:  25 sq meters / person

---------------------------------------------------

(4) POPULATION ESTIMATES:
    Purpose: Calculate minimum and maximum population capacity.

    A. LOWER ESTIMATE (Low Density, High Space per Person):
       117750 / 25  = 4,710 people

    B. UPPER ESTIMATE (High Density, Low Space per Person):
       117750 / 15  ~ 7,850 people

===================================================

Conclusion for Calliban: The Bricks on Mars habitat could comfortably support between 5,000 and 8,000 residents based on a dense, five-story urban plan. This upper range provides a useful figure for emergency planning.

II. Next Step: The Construction Work Plan

I am prepared to draft the content for the first post in the work plan series: "Project Ares: Phase I - Site Selection and Resource Verification."

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Please confirm if this **pure BBCode** output renders correctly on your forum. If so, would you like me to proceed with drafting **Phase I**?

SpaceNut · Yesterday 16:09:25

Why would we cheap material thickness as from what I have seen of the bricks seem to be brittle coming out ot the compression form. I know that is the number Caliban put in the description but so far we have not made real bricks on mars at temp or from raw regolith.

Metric brick dimensions vary by region, but common sizes include the Metric Modular ($190\times 90\times 90$ mm or $194\times 92\times 57$ mm) and the UK standard brick ($215\times 102.5\times 65$ mm).
For a nominal size, the Metric Modular is often specified as $200\times 100\times 100$ mm to include a $10$ mm mortar joint.
Common metric brick sizes Metric Modular (actual size):
$190\times 90\times 90$ mm or $194\times 92\times 57$ mm.
Often specified as nominal size: $200\times 100\times 100$ mm to account for a $10$ mm mortar joint.
UK Standard Brick: $215\times 102.5\times 65$ mm.
Metric Norman: $290\times 90\times 57$ mm.
South African Standard: $222\times 106\times 73$ mm.
Swedish Standard: $250\times 120\times 62$ mm.
How to choose the right size Identify the region:
The specific dimensions depend on the country or region where you are building.
Consider the nominal vs. actual size:
Some standards, like the Metric Modular, have both an "actual" size and a "nominal" size that includes the typical mortar joint for planning purposes.
Match existing bricks:
If you need to match existing brickwork, a small deviation is usually acceptable, as the mortar joint can absorb a few millimeters of difference. It is best to choose a brick that matches the height of the existing course as closely as possible
Here are common metric brick dimensions output in BBCode format, specifying both the brick's actual manufactured size and its nominal size (which includes an allowance for a standard mortar joint, typically 10mm).
Dimensions are listed as Length x Width x Height.
Common Metric Brick Dimensions
[li]Standard UK Metric Size (widely adopted since 1970):[/li]
[] Actual Size: 215 mm x 102.5 mm x 65 mm
[] Nominal Size (with 10mm joint): 225 mm x 112.5 mm x 75 mm
[li]International Modular Size (common in countries like India):[/li]
[] Actual Size: 190 mm x 90 mm x 90 mm
[] Nominal Size (with 10mm joint): 200 mm x 100 mm x 100 mm
[li]US Modular Size (metric conversion):[/li]
Actual Size: 194 mm x 92 mm x 57 mm
[li]European "Normal Format" (NF):[/li]
Actual Size: 240 mm x 115 mm x 71 mm
Note: Actual dimensions can vary slightly by manufacturer and region due to tolerances. The nominal dimensions are generally used for design and estimating purposes to fit within modular building systems.

Grade A engineering bricks in the UK typically have the following dimensions in metric units:
Length: 215 mm
Width (Depth): 102.5 mm
Height: 65 mm (other heights like 73mm and 80mm are also available)
These are the actual dimensions of the brick unit.
When planning construction, a standard 10 mm mortar joint is usually included, making the "working size" for calculation purposes 225 mm x 112.5 mm x 75 mm.
Grade A engineering bricks are defined by their physical properties rather than their size, specifically having a high compressive strength of greater than 125 N/mm² and low water absorption of less than 4.5%

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