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Reagan was a long time ago.  We were locked into our Romanoid allies.  The Red block was very dangerous.

I think this present era is about the re-emergence of a more American identity, as the last immigration bubble from Europe has been absorbed, assimilated, and also passed on.  I believe the prior immigration waves were more those who did not enjoy how Romanoid cultures were run.

While Europe has become more inclusive to non-Romanoid peoples.  Unity is insufficient, and instead of them being able to absorb the northern and eastern peoples, they tried to go to war with them and hoped to ride America as if a war horse to conquest them.  The unity of the greater European peoples has failed, and the USA, has far less reason to need to seek alliance with the Romanoids.

So, as we pull back into ourselves, you should not be surprised, if we wake up and say, "And you are?".  I don't think it has to be too rugged.  Probably you should take a chill pill and not get too excited about it.

Reagan had contempt for in inland people anyway.  The Romanoid influx, on the coasts tended to think they were "the all in all of everything".  But they were able to avoid blowing up the planet.

As for Oil, my understanding is that the USA is currently a net energy exporter.
Biden being a Romanoid, was eager to stifle American production with the camouflage of environmentalism.  This might allow importers to make money. 

The Romanoids have a tendency to step on the smaller people, while they are also eager to set up a patronage system.  They do not desire well rounded citizens but rather would like to foster broken people that they can rule over easily.  Hair Shirts for thee but not for me sort of.

https://www.enerdata.net/publications/d … years.html

Anyway, the arrangement where Canada is a source of our imports is a good one, as otherwise we would have to change our refineries, and Canadas resources might go to waste.

It is a good deal for both, it seems to me.  The previous administration wanted very poor citizens I believe, and I think this new one wants prosperity.

Deindustrialization of the west appears to have been a goal, of many forces in the world, and not all of them external to the USA.  The desire to create a royal ruling class and then to starve out the rest of the people to make them obedient.

It appears to me that the USA is not going to have it that way, and will use blunt instruments if necessary to let others know that.

I am afraid things might be a bit rough while these things get sorted out.

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I notice quite a bit of sensible thinking in your post, by my evaluation of it.

I am not sure if Canada has as full a spectrum of food stuffs.  I noticed on Utube that some Canadians were wishing their leaders would not retaliate against America as much by putting tariffs on foods from the USA.  As it may be harmful to the common people in Canada who are already struggling.  A tariff on food would be a sales tax on food, which perhaps for common items should not be done.

I do think that tariffs instead of federal income tax could be a preference for us at this time as there is a degree of choice as to if you really want to buy a certain item or could do without it.  Income tax perhaps gives less economic choice to reduce the tax you might pay.

Also, it may very well bring more production inside of the tariff walls.  With the advent of extreme automation, including humanoid robots, this seems like a clever business move.

And we may either get lower prices from the producers outside of the tariff walls, while paying our taxes as well, or buying product within the tariff walls, if the outside producer cannot give a low enough price.

Many of the "Democrats" at this time represent an archaic remnant from the now last dead turning, and now we seem to be free to navigate the new turning to actual benefits and even fairness which was impossible in the last few decades.

The so-called Europeans seem to be a great disappointment, not their poor commoners who have to obey, but their incompetent leadership.  We seem to have shed ours now, the incompetence level is better, so far.

Like the Democrats in the USA, the leadership in Canada appears to resemble European wannabees.  They should not wannabe, in my opinion.

We tried very hard to assist the Europeans in Union, but the burden was too much.  I thought for a while that the Russians could be brought in, but it did not work out.  We did not have the means to stitch the two together, and I feel that damaged us.  We did not have enough unity force to lend them.  They seem careless, just about determined to go to a bloodbath yet again.

So, I do think that we want a core of nation vision, that nation though, encompasses more than some may suppose.

Should the British fail to improve, we may have to continue on without them.  It is like a zombie infection, we were sick, but we somehow found some method to repel it, it seems.

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I thought I would put this here, as at one time the Earth likely was like this.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolo … 69fe&ei=11

So, if I understand a sub-disk of material would surround a planet which I think would protect it from the solar wind.  My expectations are that water would be included into the planet, not just dust.  In fact, it may be that the dust would generate water from the solar wind and then fall to the forming planet.

And it appears that our core has a lot of Helium 3 in it: https://physics.aps.org/articles/v11/133
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And so, I expect that the Earth did not require so much water to come in later from Comets or Asteroids.

And I expect that it may be possible that our Moon retained some things like Hydrogen and maybe Helium.  Not sure of that.

But if it formed from a splash of the liquid mantle, very quickly or a ring of dust slowly, in either case the splash, might retain the existing Hydrogen and Helium, if any and the dust might accumulate water from the solar wind.

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Very true.  And we have young people while Canada apparently lacks them.  That means a Market, which many nations do not have.

I am not desiring to be mean, RobertDyck, just to speak logic.

I was a bit uncomfortable about the resort to tariffs but now have had an insight about it.

Of taxes, income, property, sales, and tariffs, it seems to me that tariffs are like a sales tax. To some degree, this is a more fair tax for Americans.  A necessity, like food, might be affected negatively, but it but most Americans, including me could lose some pounds.  And if we do have hungry people we could stock food shelves for the poor, (Not Food Stamps, I think).

And if it is a tariff that is proportional to what is applied to the USA in the form of tariffs, and tricks, I think that is rather a good way to try to do it.

Beyond food, beds, water, and a few other things for most Americans spending is a choice.  So, if the price of something is high, we can either make a cheaper copy internally or just do without.

If full self-driving cabs show up many people will likely not even bother to have a car in the future.

As for Ukraine/Russia, I guess Solomons solution might apply but in this case, we let the baby get cut in half, because it appears to be a Siamese twin.  That is not us cutting the baby in half, rather we don't oppose it.

The stipulation that nation borders may not be change was ended when NATO gleefully took Kosovo from Serbia.

The story about Canada western oil can have interesting features as well.  I believe that we export naphtha to Canada as a dilutant for Tar sands???
The Quebeckers will not let you do a pipeline to the East, and BC is similar.  I would be happy if BC would allow a pipeline to the pacific.  That could be helpful for our west coast, and for East Asia.

It is stupid for us to be involved in the unneeded annoyance of Russia.  If we do a sort of Norad type of thing with them, then that could reduce our chances of getting nuked, at least by the non-Russians.

As for Russian oil and Natural Gas, our desire is to have cheap energy.  With the Saudi, Russia, and North American sources, the price can go down, this will help inflation.  If the Alien oil tries to run our oil out of business, we can apply tariffs.  It would raise the price of oil, but would help to supply tax money that we could do things with like feed the hungry, and give them schools and stuff.

Canada was previously a Romanoid Intrusion into a Pseudo-Siberian population.  This actually could balance out in a way favorable to the core of the North American continent.  I am guessing that you will indeed be played with using Tariffs.  There are a great number of games in that.

In reality it might have been possible to lockstep the USA and CANADA into a mutual Tariffs Shell.  But then we would likely insist that cross border tariffs be mutual.  That may not suit Quebec.

As for Steel, Aluminum, Cars and other potential war materials, it seems that the Europeans and Canada have been giving hostile signs to things that would have benefited America. 

That gives us less incentive to play nice.

And I do intend that that be taken as logic, not hate.

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Well.............Wooly Mice: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolo … 18d6&ei=24  Quote:

This gives me hope for an Expanded Human Gene pool, eventually.

At this point we appear to have the chance for a rational assessment of what is of value.

It seems possible to me that at least for Neanderthals and Denisovans, some genes can be recovered.

We have to be concerned that along the way things were lost that were of value.  We retain some of it, but that does not mean that every useful thing was conserved.

Narcissism in ruling powers seem to define intelligent, as themselves.  And so, with a bit of sadism, they set up fatal testing to get rid of all the inferiors.

And when they discovered the evidence of the Neanderthals, the seem to have decided as fast as possible that dead people necessarily were inferior.

But nature does not seem to value intelligence, beyond its ability to facilitate a continuation of pattern.  So, a subtractive human process presumes that if you can get people to kill each other the surviving genetics will be the best.  Yes, best at surviving, but we already have Cockroaches.  Taken as far as possible the results of a genetic reduction process a human would become efficient, but less capable, even to the extent of be incompetent, at a civilization.

Additive genetics, if it could be practiced might have a chance of fishing out some skills that the idiots put in the garbage cans.

With expansion into space, additive genetics might be better suppported.

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I could not find "Power to Gas" by Louis, so I will put this here: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/s … 2d94&ei=25
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So, this might make fuel on Mars perhaps.  I am going to guess that if you could split water, and add Hydrogen to the process rather than water, you could get Methane.  So, you might be less reliant on solar panels or nuclear power.

There is even the potential that you could get Oxygen from Algae, and then in that case, put the algae into the process with CO2 to produce fuels.

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I like this video it has application to how our world works: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … c1525383d2
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The sort of European partial ancestors of the Steppes, could have been regarded as being held in a cup sort of bound by China in the East of that time, and by the Mediterranean Sea Area perhaps associated with Africa.

I cannot explain how the Asiatic influx from north of China tipped the cup over, but it did.

When the Spanish and Portuguese touched the peoples of the Americas, they recreated the cup on these continents.

It was only a matter of time before the contents of Europe between the Med. and bounded now on the East by the results of the results of the Mongols and similar, spilled into the space between the Iberians and the Siberians.  And so North America, essentially.

The current history includes the Romanoids, which I call the line from Dublin to Cairo, even into Saudi-Arabia.

They are actually a bit towards China, relative to Iberia.  So, the French and the English managed to get into North America, even though the Iberians did not what them there.  Eventually America brought in peoples north of the Romanoids.

I leave out some significant details.

Slave America, tended towards the Romanoid, and the so called North, more was towards, the Asian compliment, as they were more involve with Native Americans and North and Western Europeans.  (Western defined by the Atlantic, not Rome).

The South "Whites" however were also more Northern, as being Scotts Irish.  But the vertical culture was the greater pattern due to the presence of sub-Saharan Africans.

So, that ended in some pretty harsh clashes.

The current era, I feel, resembles that time.  We USA got involved with the Romanoids.  That collective NATO, rejected the Steppe people or they rejected the Romanoids.  This has created a cultural imbalance which we can no longer tolerate.

We feel that the Romanoids have degenerated away from representative government.  So, as we have to push them away, we look to achieve a balance by approaching the Russians.

My definition of the "West" is the Atlantic Coast people of so called "Europe", moved to North America.  But since NATO, the Romaniods have tried to say it is them.  I guess it was them in deep history, but not as much now.

In any case I think the current functions are about rebalancing back to American centered culture, and rejecting the Romanoids as central to our culture.  They are part of our cultures but, I feel they have an arrogance and should seek humility.

We don't want to go into yet another butcher shop where the Romanoids try to replace the Steppe Peoples, even exterminate them.

It is obvious that what the Romanoids have to offer is a repeat of WWII.  It is my belief that was the Romanoids using the Germans as puppets, that brought that war on.  Of course at a time they had reason to be concerned about the communists.

But when the Romanoids try to get us into a slaughterhouse in the Ukraine, we need to say no thanks, with fists if necessary.

Working with Russians we have hopes of balancing the proximate world, and the Russians have lots of minerals they may be willing to sell to us.

This might make it more possible for us to develop renewable and other energy.

And so, probably Canada would do well not to be a catspaw for the Romanoids in Europe.

Romanoids: Dublin<>London<>Paris<>Rome<>Athens<>Cairo<>Arabia?
We cannot have a world civilization centered only on these as the hero's of the story.  I don't think it was American intention to use NATO to facilitate Aggression
from those power centers to force Northern peoples to submit.  And when the Romanoids don't even try very hard to maintain representative government, and instead start resorting to Hierarchy of the Royals, I think you can count us out.

Romanoid: (Brussels)

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The idea of eliminating genes to improve the human race, in my opinion, at least at this point is stupid.  Granted there may be some medical conditions where it might be good to do gene therapy on occasion.   But with Neuralink for instance also it may be possible to augment the mind of someone who is poorly functional.

But even the idea of killing the weak is not currently sensible, I think.  If the human race expands into space as I think it can, then there would be expanded material means of existence, so a greater variety of genes could be supported.  Not every person for instance needs to be fit enough for persistence hunting.

I have my ideas about this killing cycle that we might emerge from.  There are many factors.  One is gender.  Specialization of gender.  I think it is a "One hand washes the other" type of situation.

The Feminine despite whatever is said seeks the masculine up to brutal levels.  They say they hate masculinity, but in fact they hate men they cannot exploit.  But yes, I suppose just like me they can hate men who do bad things.  That is reasonable.  But while they will exploit the beta males, they will procreate with the dominant males to make children.  This leads to the danger that the human race will degenerate into stone age brain dead cannibalism, if this process goes too far.

On the other hand, the above process avoids unfit populations.

Men can be attracted to either robust women or gracile women.  I suspect that it depends on how brutal the conditions of living are.  A farmer in the past might very well prefer a good sound helper.  But in order for humans to become more intelligent the gracile features may be required and also a large pelvis for females.

Neoteny is an old idea, I think it has merit.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny
A child-like physicality, is not as robust, but allows perhaps for a larger brain to body proportion.

People should not be so surprised if many males are attracted to child-like features in grown women.  Factors that may inhibit excessive male violence could be a high voice and tears.  Women do more of those.  A male who kills his own children or the children of a community would not leave behind genes very well.
So, I think that the female exploits this by camouflaging as having some child-like features which may protect here.  The survival of genes would then be promoted.

A reduction in body hair is also another child-like feature in many women.

So, it is not wrong, it is simply a way to keep the two genders from clashing excessively.  This factor might also protect an unborn child in the womb.  Again, gene survival.

Having more verbal skills also can recruit more assistance for survival.  This however could lead to a hive mind, which is efficient but may lack general oversight in an individual.  This does not mean stupid, but when in male leaders, it could indicate a lack of depth of awareness.  Generally, leaders have greater feminine features, but not always.

I think that the cases were males lack verbal skills can contribute to lack of ability, but then again it may cause the individual to develop other types of intelligence.  Possible Example: Elon Musk.  But though his words may stumble, I think that give time, he could do verbal well.  But I am guessing that so many things are flashing by in his mind that verbal becomes broken when needed to communicate at high speed.

I have not developed an idea of females lacking verbal skills.  It would be fun to interface with a community of people who have to use sign language.  I anticipate that their minds will be very deviated from what verbal people call normal.  That could be a good place to find females with a different mind structure.

I think that we may want to bring some of the genes back from the grave where it is possible.

Human populations pushed by female desire for material goods, then aggravating overly aggressive men, may have exterminated many good genes on the way back to the stone ages over and over again.

Again, if we are going into space, we can probably support a larger gene pool, which could include some archaic genes, if they are compatible with gain and not so much destruction.

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Some people may not like this post.  However, I think that the recent cultural deviations that began occurring in my early lifetime but had become ridiculous, and I even suspect that it was a intentional poisoning.  Europe may have been the origin of it.  I am not sure on that.  But to confuse people in mass on the proper order of things, if done intentionally could be considered an act of genocide, I think.  Yes, it gets idiots out of the gene pool, but it is genocidal anyway.

A process that we might want to intercept is one where a desire is identified, then the source of satisfaction of that desire is captured, and then it is sold.  And like a lamprey, this is not done for the good of the victim by any measure.  The why of something being judged immoral should not involve purchased indulgences.  The interference of American sexuality by economic entities should be regarded with great suspicion, I feel.  This again can be used as a method to promote less useful genes and memes and to exterminate more useful genes and memes.  We need them out of it, not allowed.  Prostitution of course is an example of that.  In order to promote a prostitution society, you have to first put penalty onto normal sexuality.  (Normal being healthy, I suppose).

The pimps and madams of this need correcting.

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This guy has a lot of interesting videos out: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … ORM=WRVORC  Quote:

What I say now is not from him, just from me at this point.

I think I have the base code of what is going on.

Keep in mind that the NAZI had said that there is a necessary need for continuous killing.  Gene reduction philosophy is stupid, but these people don't understand that.

So, then you might start to understand why they want to promote conflict in our societies, in some cases by bringing outsiders in.

Is it possible for any type of ethnic group including "J", to serve a gene reduction process?  You are not able to call them NAZI because the NAZI were very clever to hide their actual objective which is killing out the weaklings.

I think it is very easy for our rulers of the apointocracy to see themselves as necessarily better than the common people.  And they judge that if they can cause conflict, they will be able to be sheltered by their high places.

The whole idea is stupid, because genius occurs where not expected.  It is not possible to know for sure how to promote it by killing out what are considered the inferior.  Genius is to some extent when a vacuum gets filled by someone who somehow has something to fill that vacuum.

I am afraid I think we are dealing with the conceit of the Romanoids.  That is not Romans, but to some extent you may draw a line from Dublin to Saudi Arabia.  On the way you will encounter London, Paris, Rome, Athens, Cairo.  It is a fairly strait line and is where things like the Roman Empire occurred.

The reason why the Roman Empire had a limit to how far north it could go was probably agriculture and the heritage of the Steppe peoples.

Over time after the Roman Empire fell, some northern peoples started getting incorporated as well into a pseudo-Roman heritage.  I regard the Poles as being a people pinched between the Russians, Mongols etc, and the Nordics.  The Nordics to some extent found it convenient to rebel against the central church in Rome.  The Poles needed someone to hope might help them out.  So then the Catholic Religion suited them.

Historically though the only use the Romans had for the people of the north was as those they might kill or enslave.  That is why the Slavs were called Slavs, as they were desired to be slaves for the peoples to the south.

The people in the south tend to be blabber mouths, I feel, the northern peoples are more inclined to do things with hands and eyes.  We don't need that many blabber mouths, but they feel that if they can say it, it is intelligent.

To get blunt about it I think that the post WWII world with NATO has after the fall of the Soviet Union the Romanoids have decided that Americans might make good slaves.  We have their types in our population actually and that is fine.  But I think they will lead us to the slaughter and will damage the character of America, turning it into excrement.

Therefore, we will want to consider the Bricks as an offsetting potential, to keep their degenerate appetites at bay.  Russia the least enslaved of the Slavs, has the potential to help us keep our republic as it should be, in my opinion.

Where America is not being colonized by the British or the French, at this time, we are in danger of being a colony of the E.U.

I feel that Russia can be of value as it was during the Civil War, and Mexico may be sympathetic to our desire for an independent North America.

But in this configuration, of reality which has in my opinion repeated, or at least rhymed, Canada we have to be looked at with suspicion as a colonial intrusion, from the E.U. 

I would be careful Canada.

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This is encouraging: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOIlMdIqXbQ
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Just for fun, I have been thinking about geothermal on Saturn's moon Titan.
It turns out that there may be a crust of Methane Clathrates that may insulate the underlying materials.

https://www.space.com/saturn-titan-methane-ice-life
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So, drilling below that might yield a "Warmer" layer.  If a hydrocarbon or other gas could be used, then perhaps a large energy source would be available.  This might greatly improve the habitability of Titan by humans and robots.

If the dunes of Titan are actually comet dust, then the building materials desired would be common on Titan as well.  The materials probably needed in order to do geothermal on Titan, I presume.

https://phys.org/news/2024-04-titan-dunes-comet.html
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Isaac Arthur has a new video out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOWtNUpnpSA  Quote:

Honestly, I regard all of these things to be "Down the Road", a little or a lot.  But I enjoy the presentation and do think that the materials may have application eventually.

I appreciate at least one nugget of information in the presentation.  That electric rockets are perhaps 10 to 20 times as efficient as chemical rockets.  I expect Argon to be somewhere in that span.  As for new devices such as Neumann Drive and Magdrive, I just don't know.  I think they compare rather well though, on a guess.
Water Plasma Drive has been recently mentioned here that it another electric device with total qualities unknown to me.

The idea of depots for SpaceX Starship and I would think other ships, is already in circulation.  It does tend to make more sense to fill a depot and then supply a mission from that depot, rather than to fill a mission in a string of launches.  For the Moon a "Filling Orbit" is described as "Elliptical" in nature.

I suppose the next thing after doing that chemically, is to install supplemental propulsion methods to such a depot/transfer device.

Several possible methods might be used.  If you have an elliptical orbit maintained, it might be caused to have a lower and a higher orbital limit.  For instance, if you have the propulsive method, then you could fill the depot in LEO, and then lift it to an elliptical orbit for Starship to reach to be refilled.

The propulsive methods might include electric propulsion and air braking.
Eventually some work with the Earth's magnetic field might come into function for orbits of Earth, as well.

So, a Starship to the Moon could be partly refilled in LEO, and then jump up to the Elliptical filling orbit depot maximum.

There could be several versions of that, the most basic would be that you started with Methane and Oxygen as propellants directly to the depot, in LEO.  In that case you would need active cooling to keep them in the depot tanks.

If you left a "Bakery" in the high elliptical orbit, then another alternative would be to simply bring water and CO2 to the "Bakery", and then process it into Methane and Oxygen.  You might also create Hydrogen and Oxygen if a modified Stoke Spaceship was to be on its way to the Moon for service at the Moon.  The water part is relatively easy to keep from boiling off.  It also makes a good radiation shield.  The CO2 is a bit more difficult, but I think with shading, maybe active cooling is not required.  So, with those building blocks, you could cook up batches of Methane and Oxygen or Hydrogen and Oxygen in a rather high elliptical orbit of Earth.  This I presume would be done in a similar manner as to do it on Mars with raw materials from Mars.

I think this could be taken even further, but shipping Water and something like Paraffin Wax or even Cellulose.  Both of those should be relatively stable in Earth/Moon local microgravity conditions with minimal handling costs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraffin_wax
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellulose
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Of these Paraffin can be burned in a rocket engine if desired.  And it seems that various means can be used to get thrust from water as a propellant, perhaps as a plasma.  But if you want to convert Paraffin, Celulose and Water to propellants, you can extract Oxygen from the water and then burn either paraffin or cellulose, to produce things useful like CO2 and more water. 

You could use either Paraffin or Cellulose-Wood, the reduce Lunar Oxides.  The byproducts might be metals, or a pathway to metals.

This could be a useful way to use the Stoke Spaceship to lift metals and Oxygen to orbit of the Moon, and then to separate the Oxygen from the Metals.

So, it might be possible that things like Water, Paraffin Wax, and Wood-like products could be stored at various locations to provide for refilling of spacecrafts.

In a like manner vegetation grown in greenhouses on Mars could be reacted with materials from Phobos or Deimos, to produce desired propellants.

Pyrolysis or some other form of solar energy would likely be involved.

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