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#51 2022-05-11 14:14:23

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Re: Monarchy? - WHy not a Constitutional Monarchy?

Queen Elizabeth II won't attend Parliament opening due to ongoing mobility issues

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/que … 12404.html

Princess Martha Louise of Norway spoke out about how she coped with the sudden death of her ex-husband Ari Behn. https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/p … behn-death Kevin Spacey link?  The ex-husband of Norwegian Princess Martha Louise also accused Kevin Spacey of a sexual assault?
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/kevin … 28440.html

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#52 2022-06-26 10:26:44

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Re: Monarchy? - WHy not a Constitutional Monarchy?

Prince Charles took bags stuffed with millions in cash from controversial Qatari sheikh: report
https://nypost.com/2022/06/25/prince-ch … kh-report/
“Everyone felt very uncomfortable about the situation,” a former adviser to the Prince of Wales told the Sunday Times of London.

John Lydon, Who Wrote “Anarchy in the U.K.,” Says “Anarchy Is a Terrible Idea”
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/joh … 03968.html

Older discussion
'Anarchism - Anything goes'
https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=2768

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#53 2022-06-27 03:30:00

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Re: Monarchy? - WHy not a Constitutional Monarchy?

All monarchies are the legacy of conquest.  They are what you get when another nation invades your nation and wishes to stake a permanent claim on you.  It is unfair, precisely because wealth is distributed by heritage, rather than having earned it.

This is because, with the exception of a few islands like Iceland and New Zealand, all the land was already occupied by people millennia ago. Mars doesn't have that. If someone bankrolls a colony on Mars and declares themselves Queen, who are they stealing from? And why should their heirs pay hefty inheritance taxes because they haven't "earned" the wealth?


"I'm gonna die surrounded by the biggest idiots in the galaxy." - If this forum was a Mars Colony

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#54 2022-06-27 07:22:00

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Re: Monarchy? - WHy not a Constitutional Monarchy?

For Terraformer....

This topic provides an opportunity for me (as an individual) to express appreciation for Queen Elizabeth, and for the British people who have (apparently) successfully managed the transition from pure monarchy to a system that allows the population to rule itself while the Monarchy provides a shared framework for good order and collective feeling.  The American system seems (to me at least) to lack a unifying psychological anchor.

I had not previously thought a monarchy is a good idea, and in general I would be opposed, but Great Britain ** seems ** to be showing a way to make the concept work over the long term.

The key for the success of your idea (on Mars or away from Earth) seems (to me at least) to depend upon how you structure your society so that each member feels a sense of participation and value.  I heard an analysis of the Star Spangled Banner (music) yesterday, as the United States approaches the 4th of July. I was struck by the (news to me) that the author of the work included the word "slave" in the third stanza, which few Americans ever see or hear.

In the analysis, the speaker offered the perspective that to the Americans of the time (ca 1814) the word "slave" took in not only black people, but white people who were "enslaved" by the Monarch.

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#55 2022-06-29 11:31:43

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Ghislaine Maxwell sentenced to 20 years for helping Epstein
https://apnews.com/article/ghislaine-ma … e10d171260

Other discussions on newmars
Unpleasantries - Macabre business --
https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=152
Thomas Paine 1737 - 1809
https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=723

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#56 2022-07-26 04:43:28

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Courting Disaster: Can Thailand’s Monarchy Survive Democracy?
https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/art … -democracy

Mswati III  the king Swazi the Afro Kingdom of Eswatini and head of the Swazi family monarchy, born in Manzini in the Protectorate of Swaziland to King Sobhuza II and one of his younger wives, Ntfombi Tfwala
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldn … -wife.html

The islamic mohammedan Nawaf Al-Ahmad Al-Jaber Al-Sabah is the Emir of Kuwait and the Commander of the Kuwait Military Forces. The Spanish Latino nations gave him a bunch of old Freemason Globalist Babylon looking badges and awards, Knight Grand Cross of the Order of Grand Martin or some big symbolic Badge of Civil Merit The older Sabah died on 29 September 2020 and Nawaf was announced as the Emir of Kuwait during a meeting of the National Assembly
https://web.archive.org/web/20201002042 … other-emir

The Afro-Bolivian Royal House is a ceremonial monarchy recognized as part of the Plurinational State of Bolivia, which does not interfere with the system of the Presidential republic in force within the country. It is centred in Mururata, a village in the Yungas region of Bolivia. The monarchy is treated as a customary leader of the Afro-Bolivian community.
https://www.bbc.com/travel/story/202103 … al-kingdom

Tupou VI the King of Tonga is the younger brother and successor of the late King George Tupou V. was officially confirmed by his brother on 27 September 2006 as the heir presumptive to the Throne of Tonga, as his brother (a bachelor) had no legitimate children.
https://web.archive.org/web/20120415191 … e-new-king

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#57 2022-07-27 06:11:35

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Re: Monarchy? - WHy not a Constitutional Monarchy?

Ghislaine Maxwell moved to a low-security prison in Florida for 20-year sentence

https://abcnews.go.com/US/ghislaine-max … d=87367124

Hugh Grant breaks silence on link to Prince Andrew Newsnight interview film adaptation

https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-new … est-update

Curtis Yarvin, simply a troll? an alt righter, a radical left libertarian type or some say he's just a Monarchist and yet American?


Who is America's elite Royal family anyways, the Kardashians, Trumps, Clintons, the Bushes, the creepy lying attorney lawyer type like Alan Morton Dershowitz  or Ted Turner, Oprah Winfrey, Sports stars, Rockers, Rappers and other degenerate Hollyweird celebs?


Curtis Guy Yarvin  also known by the pen name Mencius Moldbug, is an American blogger, software engineer, and Internet entrepreneur. He is known, along with other fellow theorist for founding NRX-Dark-Enlightenment?  Peter Thiel was an investor in Yarvin's startup Tlon and gave $100,000 to Tlon's co-founder John Burnham in 2011.  The online troll movement or serious alt right anti-egalitarian and anti-democratic philosophical movement some say and accuse him of running an idea or cult known as the Dark Enlightenment or neoreactionary movement (NRx). He has two children with his late wife, Jennifer Kollmer (1971–2021), who died in San Francisco in April 2021 as a result of complications caused by hereditary cardiomyopathy

The Dark Enlightenment is a movement critical of some argued aspects of the Enlightenment.
https://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

Not to be confused with Counter-Enlightenment.

The Dark Enlightenment or the neo-reactionary movement, sometimes abbreviated NRx, is an anti-democratic, anti-egalitarian, reactionary philosophy founded by Curtis Yarvin, an American software engineer and blogger under the pen name "Mencius Moldbug," and developed further by English philosopher Nick Land. The ideology generally rejects Whig historiography—the concept that history shows an inevitable progression towards greater liberty and enlightenment, culminating in liberal democracy and constitutional monarchy—in favor of a return to traditional societal constructs and forms of government, including absolute monarchism and other archaic forms of leadership such as cameralism
https://altfringe.com/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

'You can only lose the culture war'
https://graymirror.substack.com/p/you-c … ulture-war

"The only possible reversal must come from strategy, rather than struggle."

'The customary color-coding of the culture war is boring. Let’s get Tolkien-pilled and talk not about red and blue, but hobbits and elves. (While not forgetting the fact that for the two centuries before 1980 or so, red—the color of anger—was the color of the left.)

We know who are the hobbits and who are the elves. We know who is on top and who is on the bottom. (Of dwarves and orcs, we shall not speak.) We know what the elves want: they want to live beautiful lives. We know what the hobbits want: they want to grill and raise kids.

Dear hobbits: you can only lose the culture war. Even when elves use political power to impose elf culture on you, you cannot use political power to impose hobbit culture on elves.

I mean, sometimes (rarely) you can. It never works out well. I suppose that in theory you could massacre all the elves. You don’t seem up for that in practice. As an elf… I have to regard that as a good thing. But it leaves you, dear hobbits, in a real bind.

If there was a way to impose hobbit culture only on hobbits, there might be a case. But our country is not configured to support separate rules for elves and hobbits. If it was, it would be a different country. Maybe a better country—but it isn’t.

The only way to impose hobbit culture is to impose it on everyone—including elves. Elves do not like to be told what to do by hobbits. Even advice makes elves mad. It is outrageous and disrespectful. And when hobbits coerce elves… utterly unacceptable. Even if any such coercion is only symbolic, it is a profound violation of elven rights. Your elf will not just be mad—he will explode—wronged in every fiber of his being...'

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#58 2022-08-01 10:58:39

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Re: Monarchy? - WHy not a Constitutional Monarchy?

Indigenous Australian senator calls the Queen a colonizer while being sworn in to parliament

https://nationalpost.com/news/indigenou … -colonizer

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#59 Yesterday 10:34:48

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Re: Monarchy? - WHy not a Constitutional Monarchy?

Average Orwellian Brit headline?

Shock as London police admit strip-searching hundreds of children
https://www.euronews.com/2022/08/08/sho … f-children

The monarchs of Nepal were members of the Shah dynasty who ruled over the Kingdom of Nepal from 1743 to its dissolution in 2008. The monarchy was abolished on 28 May 2008 by the 1st Constituent Assembly and the country was declared a federal parliamentary republic, in the aftermath of the 2006 Loktantra Andolan movement.
https://web.archive.org/web/20201125155 … n/11/nepal

The Nepal guy?
He had a bunch of Babylon Masonic Religion Awards and Medals, France Ordre national du Merite, Bhutan King Jigme Singye Investiture Medal, Investiture Medal, Germanic Occult Christian Grand Looking Vatican Royal Arabia Cross,  Member of the Order of North Korean DPRK Labour, South Korea not to be outdone also ave him an Order of Diplomatic Service Merit, Thailand Order of the White Elephant, Dutch Royals of Holland Netherlands Grand Cross of the Order of the House of Orange, Pakistan gave him some islamo jihadi mohammedan symbol award Nishan-e-Imtiaz, Saudi Order of King Abdulaziz, Spain Knight Grand Cross of the Order of Isabella the Catholic
Thai Order of Special Class and another Dutch Royalty Award, Knight Grand Cordon of the Order of the White Elephant, Knight by the Queen of England Order of the British Empire St-Michael St-George ribbon, Yugoslavia no longer a country gave him a Sash of the Order of the Yugoslav

Nepal announces general elections
https://www.laprensalatina.com/nepal-an … on-nov-20/

The Queen is Australia's Head of State - don't deny it
https://www.spectator.com.au/2022/07/th … t-deny-it/

Republicanism is on the run in Australia – and it’s all thanks to The Crown, according to one of Canberra’s top politicians
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … Crown.html

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