Tour of the SolarSystem Mars, Titan, Europa with Starship?

Mars_B4_Moon · 2021-12-01 14:48:22

Maybe all of this will be done with robots not humans

Even talks about a place like Alpha Centauri one day
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl … 64122.html

Pluto’s average distance, or semi-major axis, is 39.5 AU.

I'm not sure how we go that far the most distant traveled by NASA is to Arrokoth aka 'Ultima Thule'

Proxima Centauri, the closest star to our own, is still about 268,700 AU ???

Elon Musk has said that his plan to establish a permanent colony on Mars will eventually allow humanity to become not just multi-planetary but also interstellar.

Planetary scientists are starting to get stirred up by Starship’s potential
https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/12 … potential/

Jennifer Heldmann stared at the computer screens on her desk, watching as a rocket's upper stage slammed into a crater near the South Pole of the Moon. In the name of science, a 2.3-ton chunk of steel struck the Moon with the force of 2 tons of TNT.
It was October 2009, and Heldmann tracked the impact from inside the Science Operations Center at NASA Ames in California. As a 33-year-old planetary scientist, she was working her first major mission for NASA by coordinating observations of the impact with ground-based telescopes.
NASA sought to "touch the ice" with the LCROSS mission. Although the Apollo landings in the 1960s and early 1970s had found a gray and barren world, scientists had since come to believe that pockets of ice were trapped below the rims of craters in permanent darkness at the poles, the remnants of billions of years of cometary impacts. Centaur's mission was to blast one of these craters and see if the scientists were right.
After poring over the data, NASA declared that it had indeed found water in the vapor plume kicked up by the Centaur impact, as well as material ejected by the blast.
For Heldmann, this was a pivotal moment in her career. The experience cemented her interest as a planetary scientist in following the water. "It is truly amazing how the results of that mission have been so profound," she said.
The discovery of water ice on the Moon highlighted an era in which planetary scientists were finding ice and water all over the Solar System—on the ice-encrusted moons of Europa and Enceladus, on and beneath the surface of Mars, and potentially in even more far-flung locations, such as the interior of Pluto or Neptune's largest moon, Triton. As they looked beyond Earth, scientists discovered, water was nearly everywhere.
These discoveries raised all manner of tantalizing prospects. Where there is water—or once was—life might have developed. Scientists were therefore no longer just looking for fossils in long-dry lake beds on Mars; they began seeking out living organisms in the large oceans of Europa, Enceladus, and elsewhere. For human exploration, too, the proliferation of water offered a great opportunity. Where there is water, there are the components for rocket fuel—liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen.

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tahanson43206 · 2021-12-01 18:24:59

For Mars_B4_Moon re new (and interesting) topic ...

Best wishes for success with this topic!

I recommend RobertDyck's Large Ship for this venture.

That said, perhaps a Starship rotating as a pair with another would provide some of the comforts of home that the Large Ship is designed from the outset to deliver.

(th)

Mars_B4_Moon · 2021-12-02 07:44:24

I found a number of thread semi-related to this topic but not exactly as to what I was looking for

However this is maybe a discussion that should focus on Starship and the Solar system tour

There was also a BBC show some what scifi-ish but based on real science and how to do a tour of the planets
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There was also a mention of Chinese plans in some newmars forum debates that China wanted to send something beyond NASA's record in deep space and that China was considering a Voyager-like mission interstellar space that would launch and make a Neptune flyby. The mission names were Interstellar Express and IHP, there might even be a IHP-II or IHP-3. https://www.planetary.org/articles/chin … ar-mission , http://jdse.bit.edu.cn/sktcxb/cn/articl … 0.20200058

tahanson43206 wrote:

I recommend RobertDyck's Large Ship for this venture.

(th)

Thanks I think I might have read some of it before, its a long thread if I remember, will give it a read again

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tahanson43206 · 2021-12-02 08:15:22

For Mars_B4_Moon .... re Large Ship

I think that the Large Ship topic started out the way all topics start on this forum.... an interesting idea for discussion.

However, ** this ** idea is too important to allow to languish as a typical forum discussion. If you were to take an interest in it, you would join a very small cadre of forum members who are trying to encourage RobertDyck to keep plugging away at this, in the hope it will come to the attention of someone with deep pockets or connections to people with deep pockets.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if the investment needed is on the order of half a trillion dollars to set up a small fleet of these vessels, but there would appear to be sufficient wealth sloshing around on Earth to achieve that. The issue is persuading enough of the right people that the idea has merit and that it is feasible.

(th)

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