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Spanish men will have to learn to change nappies and don washing-up gloves under the terms of a new law designed to strike a blow at centuries of Latin machismo.

The law, due to be passed this month, is likely to provoke a revolution in family affairs in a country where 40% of men reportedly do no housework at all. It will oblige men to "share domestic responsibilities and the care and attention" of children and elderly family members, according to the draft approved by the Spanish parliament's justice commission.

This will become part of the marriage contract at civil wedding ceremonies later this year.

Bill, didn't you make a presentation at the last Mars Society conference asking NASA to seek corporate sponsorship to raise funds? This is exactly that. There was a NASA person there asking if regulations would permit them to do so. After some discussion she said she would have a lawyer look into what's permitted. I was there so don't deny it; this was your idea. Congratulations.

Seize power; loot the pension plan - - Nothing but the good old fashioned corporate raider mentality.

Argh!

What are you referring to? A government bond, backed by government trust and held by the government is not an asset, it's not money.

It's strangely familiar.  :;):

The biggest heaven? The smallest hell? I believe heaven will prove far more populated, with a far more diverse crowd that the self-righteously religious currently believe, and preach.

I'd change that to "the obnoxiously religious".

GCNRevenger says "NO" - - but I still ask why wouldn't water ice and dry ice rain or snow on the lunar surface underneath the launching pad used to send a methane/LOX rocket back to Earth?

If a crew remains on the Moon after a rocket leaves with cargo, why not scoop up the water ice for re-use?

Trouble is Bill that the exhaust plume will spread out really far, and just about none of the exhaust will come back down near the launch site.

Remember that the Moon has only 1/6th gravity, so the stuff has much more time to spread out before Lunar gravity pulls it to the ground.

This "soul fashioning" argument as a dodge for the free will/eternal damnation problem, aside from being a bit contrived to start with suffers from another verifiable fatal flaw.

In my experience, most people don't know what they want and don't know why they do half the things they do. Free will itself is largely illusory, requiring (somewhat ironically) a supreme triumph of will to overcome inherent behavioral tendencies. Tendencies presumably hardwired in by the God that punishes us for his mistakes/sadistic programming.

Silly superstitious monkeys. 

And they pick, consiously, eternal damnation? Here is the problem with this thesis- you have opposing viewpoints that all dictate what God's law are, basically, what choices you may exercise that will lead to hell. No where does God enlighten us, clearly, for all time, for all people, for each individual, to know which set of rules they should follow to determine their appropriate choices. It's a giant guessing game where, evidentily, the wrong guess equals eternal damnation. So in essence, you have a bunch of people believeing different things, and many of them following a set of rules they think are God's laws, but they could be wrong, but yet still believe they are doing what god wants, and because they guessed wrong, they are punished. My god, God plays a fair hand of poker here!

You took the words right out of my mouth.

It is great that we can solve outside of the box for the lunar creation of not only oxygen to breath but also for making LOX on the moon from regolith. To be used in rocket propulsion.

Now onto how can we do the same on mars economically as well is the next question?

So god is not merciful? A brief time in the mortal coil can equal eternal damnation? Why would God be so harsh, considering that mankind is an imperfect creation?

I believe you're misunderstanding... the idea is that hell is a conscious choice picked by the person themselves.

That's all fine and well, but my point was that some people choose to be bad, and act out against those who are innocent. Why does god allow others to suffer so a few can be saved, or to choose between good and evil? Isn't it wrong that millions of children suffer so people can be given the choice to be good or bad?

The idea is, again, that free will is held inviolate, possibly because if there is no free will life would merely be a puppet show on a vast scale, Brave New World with God as World Director.

I for one wonder what Mars will make us, not what we would make Mars.  :;):