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Hye redargon, spring has started here in phoenix and its still Jan. The Ash trees are leafing out and spreading their pollen every where much to the blight of allergie people. It will still be nice until mid April by your standerds. About every Easter it reaches in to the 90's F and by may its warm too hot depended on what time of the day it is. A big deal here is when the temp will reach 100 degrees F in Phoenix some times it is late May, By June it is almost allwise above 100 F every day for the high Temp. June is by far the Hottest mounth because the humidity is around 0, or even 10 F dew point. That mean dew will only sublimate out of the air onto a very cold thing. Once the ice forms you can melt for liqued. By July its more humid and some coulds form thunder storms which help to cool the air and make it more nice. Though July has the most hot days because its highs are in the 100's all mounth, will June starts in the upper 90's.
The hottest Day was in july 1990 here with a temp of 122 F, Death valley gets higher temps because its lower in elevation below sea level -200 feet. While Phoenix is at 1095 ft at the salt river, my House is at 1200 ft.
But the hottest place in Arizona is Gila Bend, Bull Head city,Coolege, Flournce state pen, and Yuma. Bull Head city seats low at 500 ft in the colorado river valley and gets up to 120's to 130's, Coolege and Flournce is where hell comes to earth for Holidays highs in the 120's, and Gila Bend well is just the pits of hell no God fearing person goes there, one time I was there I thought that I saw a sun devil walk past me eating red hot candy.
Also Dust devils are a big problem ofthen they wipe up huge dust storms that block out the sun. "The wind is called Maranda and she is death" Also dieing thunder storm produce winds up to 75mph that ofthen cause roof damage, and wipe dust storms that run for hunderds of miles.
Any ways the summer is the best time to vist and enjoy the heat. Sure beats couldy days, tornados, and hurricanes.

I don't Hilary Clinton, she is a carpet bager from the Ar-Kassans river.
She just white trash from Arkannas, playing the big liberal senator from New York.
Also librals, immigrants, non english signs on the bus, How am I suppost to know what no armas, carncia, mercotdo,  or vivia la raza? Some times I feel like a stranger in my own country that I was born in. In Mexico every one has kown english, all the sign are in eglish for me. I feel right at home, they do this because they want me to spend my money there.
Also spanish channels on cable TV, why should I have to pay for it if I am not going to use it, radio all the english station are changing to spanish.
I hate spanish, many other people feel the same way. I think that we need a wall along the border to keep out the millions of ill legals alian that sneek into the US every year. Also deport the ill legals here along with there many many babies. We don't need them or want them here. How many people do you need to do yard work anyways.

I fear the Gods, as for us foolish mortals let be known that we try too get away with alot when the admins have there backs turned.
Also has any one seen the move Aeon Flux it was great, who would think that MTV would make a movie dealing with effects of long term human cloning. All with some really hot woman Aeon saving the day.

To srmeaney: Mandarin has been taught in US schools for a long time, mostly in colleges but also in high schools. Did you see how many students were learning Mandarin in the artical 300 kids. Verse like 3000 for spanish in the state the artical in linked. Have you ever taken a forign lingo class. In my college it is manitory for my degree path, I am taken spanish 102 now. The thing is we dont really learn to speak spanish that well. Mostly just spanish grammer, there alaphbet is almost the same as english expect for the lettler K is not used. Once I am done with 101 though 104 I will quickly forget most of it any ways. Why because the liberals think that we need to know other cultures, bull In America English is all I will ever need to know and all those peayons from Mexico better learn english fast. It the same for the kids taken Mandarin, you only try to learn it if you are going to vist the country, or have a job where people speak that lingo and not english.
By the way lots of china's kids are learning english too, English has been the most important lingo in the world, and still is today. Looks like the first people on Mars will speak American english! English is the worlds most wildly learnt second lingo.
  Most non native english speakers live in India, Japan, and the republic of china "Taiwan". Question, why do you bash your own native tounge? You should be happy that there are so many fellow speakers and that you dont have to waste your time in spanish class like I do. No Mas, muy mal y me durmo en espanol class. Caul es tu lingo Ud. srymeany, muy simpactico es el New Mars e tu? Not the best spanish but I am trying, I am Trilingo I speak cannda A, canndain beer is fit for a king or the sink because it taste bad. FYI Asutrailen wine is bad too.
English is the lingo franka of the world, chew on that you mal-contemp from the south seas.

I dont trust what the BBC airs as the truth. Also as long as the person is not a US citzeen and is not in American territory. The US government can do what ever they want to that person. But with soliders in a time of war they have too treat them well, but there is no war it ended in Iraq long ago. There is no hostile Iraq government we liberated the peoples of Iraq. Now we are starting a new government in Iraq for the people to be free.
Its strange people go on and on about the war in Iraq, it ended all ready! What it is now is a control action as we start up the new Iraq government. The attacks are from outsiders who kill Iraq people alone with the US soliders. These outsiders dont want Iraq to be free, they want to start a islamic nation. These people are also not united to kick americans out of Iraq, they are many fraction getting there along awaited change to kill each other. For them they care about Iraq freedom or its people, its just their chance to blow them selfs about for islamic geehad and try to get some american ass well. There is no war, just malecomtemps.
Once Iraq government is up and running we can start to take american troops out, but not before they can handle it. Also I never belive polls, I can find a hunderd people that all think Bush is doing a great job me being one of crouse. Were did they do the poll? Goldengate park, time square, some liberal bathhouse in San Fransico.  Liberalism is just another form of durgs

I think that the real big issue with in space exploration is manned or robotic exploration. Are view of exploration is still based on the 2nd ade of exploration. Man going to the poles fighting nature to plant a flag on some piece of ice that looks like all that other ice. But really it was more about self discover, facing the elements and just surving. Sitting in a small hut on the antiartic ice sheet during the long night alone what is their to discover. There is no plants, people or animals, just you discovering your inner mind. This transition from the second age to the thrid age also is like society went though after www1. Modernism art for the self expression, every thing is about us looking at us. In the second age we discovered every thing, nothing leth but are selfs. The big problem come when exploration goes into space, for the most part Man cant go there right now. Robots due great, but we still sea though the eyes of the 2nd age. We want Man to go there to experence it, but there is no other life their but us when we get there. Polar and ocean exploration mirrors space exploration. Once a Man gets there, nothing but rocks or ice to look at. On mars  there will be a Man siting in his hut wondering to him self great I am here! Gee lot at all the rocks, the air is unbreathable, A robot could of done the same science work for a lot less money, but I am here! I think that I will plant a flag, grab some rocks, look more wroth less rocks! Great its basalt Hey thats the same type of rock I could of easly found for free insead of the billions of dollars my nation spent to send to this woth less big rock called Mars! Great I got cancer all for some stupid rock that a robot could of sent back to earth.
But with are 2nd age model, wonderful man has gone to Mars, lets send colonist and terrafrom the planet so that we can breath the air! Cost billions, and the poor demand bread why dont they just eat cake. Shut up and let your nation fulfill its God given right to claim the solar system you stupid peayons!
We are so great look we sent man to the moon and mars! What the colonist died because of lack of food and breathable air, oh well they are heroes we morn them. Lets send some more!
  The two different views have merit, 1. robots cost less than people to go on missions to space, if the robot dies no big deal its a robot. Robots also need no food or water, only power which can got from sunlight.
But people inspire more the nation tax base more, and can get more funding. I would love to a Human go to Mars say the first words and first steps on mars instead of a human like robot. This is because we are all human and relate to other humans more than some robot. Final long term exploration on Mars would work better if you had people on Mars making robotic to chech it out. Also un like the Moon Mars has all the resource needed to support human life in plenty not just a little pacth of ice at the moons poles. Once people make a home on mars supply would not have to be sent from earth, just more people. But once there are people on Mars the baby human are sure to start poping out in 9 mounth or so. Human are reproductive and spread all about populate any place they live naturly. Unlike robots which need humans to make them.
The ideas of colonization and exploration come out of the 1st and second age of exploration, appalying the model of those age to the thrid age is not very smooth, but is duable on planets like mars that are close enough to earth envirnoment and has resources for people to live. But for places like jupitor, astorids, small moons, the model for of the past ofthen breaks. Their robots are best, but I feel that both people and robots should explore together. People are great for many thing  robots cant do, but were people cant go send robots.  On mars I thinks robots should go first and prepare the way for humans. Robots could make a base, fuel, food, air, water, all before the people get their. When they land all the have too do is to explore and not waste time making their base or gathering resources.
But thats my own strange idea people and robots working together in space each doing what they are best at doing, working for the betterment of Mankind!

Paris is burning, where is the military? Have the leaders of the roits been rounded up and public beheaded yet, The police are beening shot at. In America the police would break out the machine guns and put a lot of hurt on them. Nothing like been shot at to get the idea that its wrong to kill people, burn cars, schools, and churchs. If we burned down a islamic hodo center they would call us racistist, but when they do it, its call social justice? France used to be a strong nation but liberism has weaken it to the point were an islamic revelution has started. If the islamist get control of frace they will have nukes. The US will not stand for this and will yet again have too liberate france from a forign invader. It was France who stop the islamist from invading western Europe in the medevil time. Now they up and let them in to the point were they can take over.

srmeaney Hello from the God loving christian world, Christian a minority group? Christians world wide are the single largest faith group over one billion. In the western hemisphere almost every one is christian, so the U.S.A does not really fear becoming a minority. Also Why do you want to turn your back on your freinds for china? China trades more with america so why would they care about the folks down under.  The moon is open land with lots of space, I think china and america can both have little moon colonys with out fighting. Also china has a lot of socail problems to solve and as a socailist nation they have to solve them. Unlike the US were the poor can go to hell as far as we care. America has a better chance of getting to the moon first, we did it before. We are more ahead in tech, china has just a maned orbitor. The US was doing that 40 years ago, big deal!
America will get to the moon first and claim it as an international study area like Antarctica. So no single nation can claim it for it self.
America rocks you communist dog, why dont you move to china and see how wounderful it is. GWB for king of the world! 8)

The UN also gave money to the Taliban to save some Budist monument that they just blow up any ways. By your standerds that makes the UN the cause of the bali bombing too.

It could be a couple of hunderd years before people go to Mars given are current pace of space exploration. In 13 years we could go back to the moon and do the same thing we did 36 years ago.

Most of the worlds that I misspell is caused by typing the wrong key. Like typing an S instead of a A is common. In my mind I am spelling the word right, but when I type fast and dont look at the keys I something type the wrong number. I was taught how to type very fast but I like to take my time not to make misspell words.
If you do see the worng spelling it because I am in a hury.
     Anyways grammer aside, I was reading some were that Mars is heating up. The south polar caps grow smaller every year, could Mars have global warming all with out the help of evil Human polluting animals? This could be another Mars ice age forming. Once the CO2 in the polar cap all sublimes away I wounder how much air pressure it will add. Mars appears to be doing some of are planned terraforming work for us. If we wait too long to go to mars the planet might of all ready have terraformed it self. Then we wont be able to brag about terraforming.
An ice age Mars might be easy to settle because water from the poles will end up in larger areas mid lats. I think that Mars axel angle might be changing to face the sun more from todays 23 degrees to all the way to 90 degrees. Mars allwise will have wild changes in axel angle because it lacks a large moon like the earth to tame its wild axel spin changes.

"You should also never announce that you are attending a "School of Liberal Arts and Sciences." That is the lowest level of the college structure, with Universities being next, and Institutions being at the top."
VTTFSH_T  I know that silly. Arizona State University or as it is called ASU for short is a university made up of many colleges one being the School of Liberal Arts and Sciences, of which I am in the Sols "school of life sciences" of which I am in the Plant biology BA degree program. When you go to a University you have to declare your degree program and join a college with in the University. Bening a ASU student for me is a given, I said the college so that you could if you wanted too check out the program that I belong too.
If you go to a University you will too  have to join some college with in it that has your degree program you want to take, and when you tell people you sort of have tell them what college you belong too and your degree path that is just a given.
For example there are general University standerds that you met plus standerds that your college sets for your degree path. Also you can get kick out of your college yet still be part of the University. When talking about your degree path it just comes up what college you are a part of. Bring up waht college you are a part in a university is just part of being there.
"Why dont you just get a MA or PHD" because I first have to get a BA, a job then I can goe get a MA. Because grad level class are very hard and a lot more is expected from you. I dought that a 11th grader could handdle the work load, stress, and maturity need in grad school. I am sure you would due just fine in fresh man level classes for a BA. The class are just a little harder than high school, but as you move up from 100 to 200 to 300 to 400 level classes get harder and harder and you need all the lower level class learnings to get though.
Almost no one jumps from high school to a very specialized grad program.
For example high school bio class could never prepare for like grad work on resreach genetics. For example I am working on in my professor lab a report on Cylcocarya, due even know what the Juglandaceae means? So most people just cant jump right out of high school and go into grad school to get a MA, or PHD.
You thinking that you can proves that you are too proud and will fail, also making fun of some one is trying to get a BA. Most people in the world never go to college much less earn a degree form a good school. It shows that you are blind to the fact that college is hard even for smart people.
I will try for a MA once I get my BA in plant science, doing that does not make me dumb but rather smart. When you go to college will you try to get in to a grad program it will very because you have not proven your self in college yet. Thats why most get a BA is too prove that they can make it in college, were 50% drop out in the first 2yrs. Also getting a business degree? I want to work for the government as a ranger, or plant science studys which have nothing to due with business. Getting a degree in business would be a waste of my time.
Also I was joking about spelling, I write too fast and miss spelling misstakes I often dont have time to change them sorry not every one can be perfect.
Have good day too, and learn more about what degree you want to earn, read up on college degree programs. Don't just get a degree in business because every one esle does too.