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What is unique about the mission is the fact that it will use Titan for a slingshot 44 times thoughout the mission length.
The next will be in mid December when it will release the probe for landing on Tatin around christmas day.
UA scientists anxious as Cassini approaches flyby of Saturn's largest moon
But the same fear factored attacks can occur but in a different form in intercontenetal missiles. But that still does not stop the colonization of the oceans. Since no nation will actually be say that it is soveriegn soil inside each and the community would have control over its own personel.
So far the only stopper other than funds has been that in the open sea commercial use is open to every one and that you can not lay claim to it. The only area that is not true is within any nations sea border limitations.
This is no harder to create sea colonizes do than to colonizes for that same reason on the moon for the laws forbid national or corporational ownership of the moon as well.
Well currently playing on the Nasa tv is about project Dart.
Here are some of the other Nasa web tv links
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/ (NASA TV Program Schedules)
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Web.html (Watch NASA TV on Your Computer)
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/na … edule.html (Television Schedule for Shuttle and ISS Missions)
http://spacelink.msfc.nasa.gov/NASA.Ne....chedule (Education TV Schedule and Program Information)
So we have created the first oxygen supply by mining process and such but what is it to be put in, where is it stored and for how long before man is there to breath it or to use it for rocket oxidizer?
As for making solar cell panels yes more energy is needed as one continues to expand the presence of equipment and eventually man but can we make them on the moon?
If mining of metals and smelting is part of the rocket build providing the inards are sent from Earth that makes sense right away.
Use solid fuels and mixed liquids as created from insitu materials would also make sense.
I also believe that the laws of supply and demand could also get into the picture but not at Earthly costs to export to the moon.
From Nasa another bungled mess. You will not like this delay either Cindy:
The launch date for NASA's Swift satellite - designed to detect and analyse gamma ray bursters - has been delayed thanks to a faulty third stage rocket on an unrelated launch. The mission has been given a new provisional launch date of 11 November.
More from Russia on joint ventures into deep space programs.
The rocket to which plans have been made to export them to the European Space Agency they are destined to be a replacement for the British-made Skylark rocket. Brazil plans to sell up to 15 of the rockets, which can carry up to 870 pounds and fly up to 155 miles.
Not only are the engines that power space flight important in a rocket design but also the fuel to which they burn is equally important.
yup you are right about the indepent channels that cable do provide some of which in my area are for local government use for the communities that they service.
So how would we get this going from the stand point of production of a quality product for others to view?
I think the video tape (VHS) or even the newer DVD formats would be great to supply. This could even be accessed from the web if there were one made to access the files. Or that such of those interested in doing the handing of the tapes to there local cable provider portion could make copies in oder to make this occur by those that live in there broadcast area. Provide cable companies even a news letter as to how to find the space information site if created if they where willing to bring in the info for broadcast without the middle man.
I know to many thoughts again, I must slow down....
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we might even contact the various societies and or organization that we are aware of as well.
Planetary org
Mars society
lunar society
I am sure that there are others.
While not an ISS issue one that would resolve the construction by providing heavy lift cargo capability is however in the it would be unmanned. This would rely on the ongoing Dart program or at least its end results if not hardware.
Lots of links in the article.
We all know that funding is an issue but is our plans also one as well. Or are others that have been developed by those in the game a better chance or just more practical. Are there other plans or options out there that would cost less and be done on a faster time line. Is the building of infrastructure costing to much within the plan? Recently even Nasa released a new plan of the vision or at least part of it.
The US election and the future of the solar system
happy reading all, I myself have not read it as of yet but will edit comments later.
It appear that we have a new reason to think out long duration missions in the developing of cateracts due to high energy radiation particles and that we must do more research into protecting the astronauts vision since they are at risk for such damage once leaving Earths protective fields.
Yup the ever changing face of space faring nations. One more in the game only adds to the chance of some nation getting back to the moon someday.
It appears that we did not need to go to space to find out that fact about high volocity radiation but limiting the affects of it on any crew is a must for long duration missions with a greater potential of seeing more than a few days worth.
Yup very fustrating time lines for all of the vision IMO probes to explore or for manned missions to say nothing about all the new rocket designs, habitat and more from NASA way to slow.
So when will the first rover be that will tell us if the martian soil would be a hazard to manned flights in the future?
So lets itemize why do the moon at all:
Space vision, using it as a research and practice environment for future Mars manned flight
Mining, colonization, power
any other reasons anyone?
Can the only reason for doing the moon at all be science or is it also about doing business and making a profit. Either by creating infastructure or though supply chains to support the ongoing effort what ever it may be; are these the only driving forces?
Lets say that the president did put forth a vision for sea colonization much like he has for the space program. As Commodore put it is all about the money. Even if there is a direct an instant return on the investment it still would take some convincing the congress to appropiate the funds needed. That is part of the problem for the space vision that we have been given is enduring today.
As we have noted in the funding thread we can do better first by getting the information to the public of the importance of doing this but also of the indirect returns venture though not only scienctific gain but also by others.
But who would be in charge of the viewing prgramming, accuracy of the content and of the broadcast station its self?
A sea colony could also act as a nuclear attack safe haven for humanity in the event it should ever happen.
yup orbital has been trying to design a space tug for some years now but with and piece that you would want to link up to each is unique and requires adaptation of the original concept for each since two two are alike.
As for launching remaining or future modules of the ISS none are design to take the atmospheric stress of launch and designing a shell casing for any to set within designed to take that stress. This would mean a much larger rocket would be needed to lift the module, each would also be very custom fitted for the module that it would contain and then you have the problem of removal from its casing or the decision to use it in that fashion. Which leads to more problems for placing the module into its proper place by the robotic arms.
Trentsta: you are right in thinking smaller modules but the problem is still with making each mobile in some form, either by using a single module mover or even by the total unit mover the same would be true because of the ice.
If this were Mars that would be also a necessity to make them smaller for how would you be able to land them intact.
I am not sure why the mobitat link does not work but go to this one and at the bottom of the page is the mobitat link.
Then I guess our topic on compressed air use will come in handy even if not used to make a rover move.
So we probably do not have any rovers near any of these interesting features. How long would it take to get one there? I would really like to see some caves and some of the other stuff close up.
The deep-sea manned submersible Alvin goes into retirement after 40 years of remarkable work in the world's oceans.
The article talks about some of it's accomplishments and of what will replace it sometime in the future.
Science salutes its ocean giant
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3757732.stm