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#29401 Re: Unmanned probes » Cassini-Huygens *2* - ...more Saturn/Titan... » 2004-11-04 11:24:34

Saturn gets a shock

I could not have said it better so here it is. Also another thank for the HST.

A team of space scientists from France and the US has taken the first ever images of a geomagnetic storm on Saturn. The team believe that the storm was caused by an interplanetary shock wave that can be traced back to a coronal mass ejection at the Sun. The team has also been able to detect the effects of the shock on the Earth and Jupiter before it reached Saturn

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#29402 Re: Human missions » NASA Technology Request BAA - A step in the right direction (finally)? » 2004-11-04 08:04:43

The hard pill to swallow out of the RFI is contained in the summary for what they are looking for but what they will do with it. So why bother if they are doing nothing with it?

NASA is seeking information regarding strategies, mission concepts, investigations, capabilities, and technologies that may enable or enhance NASA's ability to carry out its mission for the nation. No procurement is planned as a result of this RFI, although responses may be considered in formulating NASA's future strategic investments and other decisions.NO AWARDS WILL BE GRANTED AS A DIRECT RESULT OF THIS RFI.

Capabilities Focus Areas should relate to one or more of the 15 key capability focus areas shown below:

High-Energy Power and Propulsion
In-Space Transportation
Advanced Telescopes and Observatories
Communication and Navigation
Robotic Access to Planetary Surfaces
Human Planetary Landing Systems
Human Health and Support Systems
Human Exploration Systems and Mobility
Autonomous Systems and Robotics
Transformational Spaceport/Range
Scientific Instruments/Sensors
In Situ Resource Utilization
Advanced Modeling, Simulation, Analysis
Systems Engineering Cost/Risk Analysis
Nanotechnology

Strategic white papers should relate to one or more of the 12 key strategic focus areas shown below:

Robotic and human lunar expeditions.
Sustained, long-term robotic and human exploration of Mars.     
Robotic exploration across the solar system.
Advanced telescope searches for Earth-like planets and habitable environments.
Development of an exploration transportation system.     
Completion of the International Space Station and focusing its use on supporting space exploration goals.       
Exploration of the Universe.
Exploration of the dynamic Earth system.
Exploration of the Sun-Earth system.
Advanced aeronautical technologies for next-generation aviation systems.
Using NASA missions inspire, motivate, and educate.
Utilization of nuclear systems for the advancement of space science and exploration.

Seems to me that they have asked for an awful lot of paper from those that can and will do submit something to contribute to the SEV.
Has Nasa forgot to think for themself? Or are they just looking for fresh ideas?

#29403 Re: Human missions » Darpa the gamble on technology - high risk per dollar or just unobtainium » 2004-11-04 07:50:22

I think in some ways we have shown that it is possible to move single atoms of matter but I wonder if the persons intelectual conciousness would be intact.

#29404 Re: Human missions » Darpa the gamble on technology - high risk per dollar or just unobtainium » 2004-11-03 14:11:12

Darpa seems to dabble in a lot of cutting edge technologies and projects.
Can anyone say beam me up scotty.

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U.S. Air Force Takes a Look at Teleportation

It seems that mere stealth technology is not enough; the United States Air Force wants to get from here to there without even traversing the space in between.

#29405 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » ZipNuts » 2004-11-03 14:01:49

Very interesting, a no twist nut use, sort of a mixed technology of a compression and threads.

#29406 Re: Not So Free Chat » Presidential Elections - ...and other political discussion. » 2004-11-03 13:49:03

What I find interesting is to which states Kerry had won mostly the industrial north and the pacific coast all of which experienced high job loses under Bushes term of office but not due, I believe directly because of any legislation that he passed. Another interesting fact about those states happens to be that they where won by very small margins a mear 2%.

#29407 Re: Not So Free Chat » Presidential Elections - ...and other political discussion. » 2004-11-03 12:25:59

What I worry most about with the Bush re-election is more terrorist caused attacks and additional wars, that he just might not have all the facts for.

#29408 Re: Unmanned probes » Opportunity & Spirit **8** - ...More... » 2004-11-03 12:05:17

I think that this photo shows the most direct water evidence.
Notice the waves in the soil.
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery....M1.HTML

#29409 Re: Human missions » NASA Technology Request BAA - A step in the right direction (finally)? » 2004-11-03 11:59:48

Well it has been a while since the last RFI but here is the next stage in critical road map issues.

NASA Advanced Planning and Integration Office (APIO) Request for Information (RFI)

NASA is currently preparing a set of high-level national roadmaps that will form the foundation of the Agency's strategic plan.

"Strategic Roadmaps" will explore options and establish pathways for achievement of NASA's strategic objectives.     

"Capability Roadmaps" will recommend approaches for providing certain technical capabilities judged to be critical to NASA's future programs.

#29410 Re: Human missions » ISS Woes & To-Mars » 2004-11-03 11:53:47

Speaks for it's self.
NASA ISS Near-term Assembly Sequence Nov 1 2004

http://images.spaceref.com/news/2004/11 … le.lrg.jpg

Also on the side of those in congress that are for space, Space: No Big Changes in Congress
So far the space landscape in Congress has changed little. Of all the key players, only Rep. Nick Lampson (D-TX) has lost a reelection bid.

Most major space backers in Congress win reelection

Members of the US Senate and House of Representatives who hold key positions on space-related committees won reelection Tuesday night, with the exception of one Texas Congressman. Rep. Nick Lampson (D-TX), the ranking minority member of the space subcommittee of the House Science Committee, lost his reelection bid, in part because of a controversial redistricting of the state's Congressional districts. Other members of the House who lead key committees did win reelection, including House Science Committee chairman Rep. Sherwood Boehlert (R-NY), ranking minority member Rep. Bart Gordon (D-TN), and space subcommittee chairman Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA). Rep. Ken Calvert (R-CA), who is expected by many to take over the space subcommittee, also won reelection. In the Senate several key members won reelection, including Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS), chair of the space committee of the Senate Commerce Committee, and Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-MD), ranking minority member of the VA-HUD-independent agencies subcommittee of the Senate Appropriations Committee. The Republican Party maintained control of both houses of Congress, slightly increasing their margin over the Democrats.
Related Links:
Riverside (CA) Press-Enterprise article about Calvert
http://www.pe.com/localne....51.html
Election coverage from spacepolitics.com
http://www.spacepolitics.com/archives/2004_11.html

#29412 Re: Space Policy » Space fairing Nations - The ever changing view » 2004-11-03 06:51:14

It would appear that the russian space agency is about to allow other space corporations to get into the game and this is a good thing not only for russia but also the rest of the world.
Russia may have private aerospace companies – Perminov

#29413 Re: Unmanned probes » JIMO - Jupiter Icy Moons Orbiter » 2004-11-03 06:48:13

Yup and here is some more about it with regareds to the shell game that the large aerospace companies play. One contractor hiring another contractor to do the job just driving up the cost.

Sundstrand gets role in NASA project

Sundstrand was tapped by Northrop Grumman Space Technology, the prime contractor on the first phase of NASA's $400 million Project Prometheus, to provide the power conversion and power distribution systems and propellant tanks.
Hamilton Sundstrand will design power systems for NASA's next-generation spacecraft -- nuclear-powered vehicles that will be capable of sending back more and higher quality data from the deepest recesses of space than ever before.

#29414 Re: Human missions » Post central for information on CEV 2 - ...continue here. » 2004-11-03 06:44:47

Here is a reference article on the shell game that the large aerospace companies play.

Sundstrand gets role in NASA project

Sundstrand was tapped by Northrop Grumman Space Technology, the prime contractor on the first phase of NASA's $400 million Project Prometheus, to provide the power conversion and power distribution systems and propellant tanks.
Hamilton Sundstrand will design power systems for NASA's next-generation spacecraft -- nuclear-powered vehicles that will be capable of sending back more and higher quality data from the deepest recesses of space than ever before.

#29415 Re: Unmanned probes » Beagle II - inquiry » 2004-11-02 21:31:51

We also can not rule out damage due to the solar storm that occurred in that same time frame.

#29416 Re: Human missions » Post central for information on CEV 2 - ...continue here. » 2004-11-02 21:25:17

Part of the reusability question is the turn around time, what items are either out right replaced, work staff size to get the job done and a limit to what is the over all cost of refurbishment. I feel that the cost to build the new ship divided by the number of either flights or years is the base line for the refurbishment cost if we are in excess of that then what are the factors that are causing the increase that must be looked at. If a way can be found to make a minimum piece tps shield that would help. The fewer custom shaped pieces is another way to reduce cost. Then you can look at reusing the guts of the ship to be put into a new can option as a means to control new build cost replacements as well.

I know that I had created the topic of can it do all for the moon or mars lander. My concept was simular to the lockheed and the russian klipper designs.

#29417 Re: Unmanned probes » Beagle II - inquiry » 2004-11-02 13:23:37

Yes check and double check of electronics and of design features cost money but why would anyone need to do that function more than once? Can you spell incompetent if this where genisis it would read lockheed but I am sure there are others attached to other projects that could join that list...

#29418 Re: Human missions » Post central for information on CEV 2 - ...continue here. » 2004-11-02 13:02:58

what you may have seen was from the CEV Fact Sheet but also on the same page for that link you will find the The Crew Exploration Vehicle (CEV) thou the cover sheet labels is for OSP. Many other items can also be found on this page as well http://www.lockheedmartin.com/wms....&sc=400

#29419 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Genesis, Stardust, Etc.:  Snag & Bag » 2004-11-02 12:45:42

Well lockheed has posted the genisis capsule shell photos on there web site as seen by staff in clean roon garb.
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/wms....&sc=400

#29420 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Heliopolis » 2004-11-02 09:26:58

I think this was about the same time as the solar flare that crippled the japanese probe to mars. I sort of was discused under the Can Mars say terraformed? thread as for why the atmosphere of mars not being retained due to mars lower gravity levels and chances for such fearsome storms to have occured in the past. That storm if I recall even punched a hole into our planets protective field.

#29421 Re: Unmanned probes » Hubble II » 2004-11-02 09:18:32

There has been much of the discusion on replacing hubble under Topic: Hubble mistake, Action needed
Topic: James Webb Space Telescope, Not a Hubble replacement but to the next
Topic: Might Shuttle C, save Hubble?
Topic: $300M to destroy hubble

And these are just a few of the areas that you will enconter the discusion with regards to sending up a new telescope, the fall of the old one and under the science technology you will find out that there are many planned, currently being built and other reasons for why not to even send up a new telescope not to mention why repair the old one.

Half the hardware to build a new one is already built and the only real way to use it would be to fly a shuttle mission in the timeframe that Hubble has left before battery and gyro fails continue until the telescope is crippled and not worth further investment.

In fact it may all ready be to late....

#29422 Re: Human missions » ISS Woes & To-Mars » 2004-11-02 07:00:13

So how much of a percentage does the military give those same contractors for space capable rockets, specially those that Nasa does use?

#29423 Re: Human missions » ISS Woes & To-Mars » 2004-11-01 11:29:37

A use for the ISS after all.

The 5-year IMPRESS Project (acronym for Intermetallic Materials Processing in Relation to Earth and Space Solidification) will bring together the academic and industrial expertise of 42 research groups from 15 countries, across the enlarged European Union and Russia.

Developing New Materials With The Help Of Space Research

#29424 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Swift & JMEX » 2004-11-01 11:26:46

Once launched the Swift mission will study the explosive phenomena of gamma ray bursts.

Counting Down To Swift Launch

#29425 Re: Unmanned probes » Marsquakes - detecting marsquakes » 2004-11-01 10:50:44

With radar eventually probing for under ground water maybe we will have answer someday.

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Marsquakes: Cracking the Water Case?

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