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#26 2005-07-12 11:08:34

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Re: Scientist:  Ireland is Atlantis?

Then again Atlantis could well be just a good story by a master teller of stories and lets be honest it is a good one and we still appreciate now.

*Yes.  It has that definite "Return to Eden" feel about it.  Just as "the good old days" are always remembered fondly, it seems humans consistently wish to believe there was once a wiser, nobler, ultrahumane and overall greatly beneficent/egalitarian society which we once enjoyed in peace and abundance...then was lost.  Paradise Lost.  Such a recurring theme, no?  The desire for Utopia.

YL Rocket:  I have always heard Altantis is under the sea, so it would not be Ireland

True, but perhaps at one time -- many millenia ago -- all of what is currently Ireland was under water and has since re-emerged.  Just a speculation...

--Cindy


We all know [i]those[/i] Venusians: Doing their hair in shock waves, smoking electrical coronas, wearing Van Allen belts and resting their tiny elbows on a Geiger counter...

--John Sladek (The New Apocrypha)

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#27 2005-07-13 05:10:31

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Re: Scientist:  Ireland is Atlantis?

You might as well go with the Ireland is Atlantis version. I think the Aussie Hieroglyphs were rumbled as a Uni Student Prank.

If you realy want it, the ever popular Holy Grail was previously refered to as the Cup of the Goddess. THese were Ancient Chinese Pottery traded in Ireland at over two thousand years ago...Thats why my name is Sean (a perfectly ancient irish name); Xian in chinese is the place in china where the pottery came from.
The word also exists in the ancient greek as apictoglyph of a  silk worm on a branch and is Pronounced Xia. Basicly it refers to goods from the trade route that extended from the very earliest chinese civilization.

They recently dug this stuff up in Ireland in the burial mound of an Irish queen.

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#28 2005-07-17 19:50:04

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Re: Scientist:  Ireland is Atlantis?

Hi Smurf975.  The Atlantis legend doesn't have to be true at all, you're right. But the legend of the Trojan War was assumed to be all myth and no substance too because, for a start, there was no Troy! Then Schliemann discovered Troy's ruins, including the remains of the "topless towers of Ilium", just as the legends described them.
    Now, it's believed that the old stories were probably based on reality, though embellished somewhat for theatrical effect. It's unlikely, for example, that any country of the day could have "launched a thousand ships" as part of a seaborne military campaign!
    It was difficult enough to find material evidence of the Trojan War, even though it happened 'only' about 3000 years ago and the land masses on which it occurred are still essentially unchanged. What hope do we have of finding the remains of Atlantis, 11,000 years old, on a continental land mass which was swallowed up by the sea and no longer exists?!
    All I was trying to say was that it may be possible Atlantis really did exist out in the Atlantic Ocean and that the Mid-Atlantic-Ridge is as good a place as any to look for it.
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Hi Grypd.
    I don't know that the Canary Islands have any direct link with legendary Atlantis at all, except perhaps in as much as the volcanic power that might have given rise to Atlantis, and then doomed it, is also responsible for the instability of the Canaries today.
    And the waves I was talking about are sheer supposition; there's no actual evidence for them, as far as I know. I just wondered whether anyone here knew of any such evidence, that's all.

Troy was discoverd in the 1870s. Atlantis is still to be found with all of our technology. If a continent sinks that would make a mark on the sea floor.


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#29 2005-07-18 11:54:01

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Re: Scientist:  Ireland is Atlantis?

If there was ever an Atlantis, I think it must have been where Plato said it was - west of the Pillars of Hercules, in the North Atlantic.
    The other places put forward, such as the island of Thera in the Mediterranean, strike me as being too small to support a civilisation of such wealth, power, and sophistication as Atlantis is reported to have been.

The island of Thera is suppose to be the tip of what use to be Atlantis that in the Mediterranean Sea. The Mediterranean is not very deep and is fairly shallow. So the theory goes that there was more water in glaciers in Ant-article and in Siberia and North America which lowered the ocean about two or three hundred feet. I that is what happened, the Mediterranean Sea would not have been a Sea, but a valley almost all the way to the gate of Hercules. Also the British Islands and even Ireland would not have been Islands either, but would have been a part of the mainland and also much of the North Sea would have been on dry land too. Also the Themes, the river that flows by Paris and the major river that separate Germany and France would have also flowed together into another valley that would have been part of the North Sea. The Island that off India would have been part of India and Madagascar would have been joined to Africa and there would have been a land mass bigger a good portion of the way to Australia too along with Siberia and Alaska being joined together.  I have read articles of them finding city two or three or even four feed underwater off of Japan, India, Mediterranean and just off of Cuba. Assuming that the Ocean was three or four hundred feet lower, most of those city on going to be on Major rivers and in lush valley's and on the sea coast for commerce. If there was a sudden melting of those glaciers, there would have been a worldwide catastrophe that would have wiped out most of the known world. The only ones that would have servived would have been the ones in the Hemalay’s or some high place like that, but the civilization would have been wiped out and have to start over again.

That where the languages of the Vadic, Sandscrip, the pyramids of Egypt, those languages in Iraq, China, even in America come into play. So the theory goes that there was a civilization ten to twenty thousand years or so that got wiped out and this includes Atlantis too. All we are getting is bits and pieces of what really was and supposedly they were the ones that built the Pyramids in Egypt and that they were not tombs, but were either Temple or possibly irrigation system to pump water into the desert to grow food. There use to be a great lake that surrounded those great Pyramids ten fifteen thousand years ago and also Egypt was a green lush farmland in that area, before the Sahara desert took over and there was a climate change. You also have rain erosion on those Pyramid and sphinx which you wouldn’t have had in the present climate. We also have metal balls that looked like they were machined, but there would have to be hundred million years old that they have found in South Africa in one of those mines down about have mile or so.

I don’t know how much of this I believe, but it does make you wonder how much we really know about the past and what really happen also. We could have a situation where the human race game up and collapsed several times over hundreds of thousand of year or even millions of years.

Larry,

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