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For SpaceNut re #4176
Thanks for taking care of that. I wrote FOQ1 to let him know.
*** FYI ... GW Johnson reported a problem with the backup site ... I suspect it is caused by having the IP address as well as the DNS login.
The remedy may be to remove the IP addresses. You are not using yours anyway.
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For SpaceNut re email support working!
I am happy to report that we have two successful tests of the email support provided by the Mars Society!
FriendOfQuark1 reported success changing his password using the email subsystem.
And here is a test of the internal email delivery system:
20260409 Test email from FluxBB forum
InboxNew Mars Forums Mailer via vps31385.dreamhostps.com
Thu, Apr 9, 12:10PM (20 hours ago)
to metahanson43206 from New Mars Forums has sent you a message. You can reply to tahanson43206 by replying to this email.
The message reads as follows:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------This is a test ... email send was initiated at 16:10:45
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
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New Mars Forums Mailer
In comparing the times, we have UTC of 16:10, and Seattle time of 12:10 PM ... the 4 hours difference looks about right.
There was less than 60 seconds delay from send to receipt by Gmail.
It is good to have this essential service working!
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FYI ... Mr. Burk is willing to restore access to the Image server, but he needs an Admin account.
The Image Server is currently unable to access the MySQL database (the password was changed) so no one can log in.
The configuration file for the forum needs to be updated to the new password.
kbd512 would ordinarily be able to help with this, but kbd512 has been busy with work related activity in recent weeks.
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As a follow up, I attempted to log into the Image Server and got an error indicating that the system is alive and well but it can't access the MySQL database. I wrote to Mr. Burk in hopes he might be able to adjust the Image Server software to access the database. It is very likely that we may soon have all those image links back working!
PS .... as soon as we have access to the Image Server, we can (and should) set up an Admin account for Mr. Burk!
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For SpaceNut re today's incoming email...
We just heard from someone writing from Portugal, in a message written in Portuguese!
It occurred to me that this site is not currently set up to follow space activity by Nation. That might be something our members would like to see. Our current structure does not provide a good place for topics by Nation, but perhaps we might consider creating a category for Space Activity by Nation? Just a thought at this point. Let's think about what that might look like.
Eventually (I would expect) every Nation (large enough to be recognized as one) would have a space program, even if it is just supplying Astronauts to another, larger nation.
If we create a category for Space Programs by Nation, then each nation would be a forum, and the topics could then be the various activities that our members might want to contribute.
We are in a rebuilding phase. We have the opportunity to think about a variety of changes.
Our previous structure and mission (and audience) seem to have run their course.
FriendOfQuark1 has thought about how we might rebuild from here.
In particular, FOQ1 has advice on how older folks might provide an environment that is attractive to and comfortable for younger folks and especially those from Nations around the World.
Our generation has the opportunity to pass the torch to the next, and we might even skip a generation or two.
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For SpaceNut ....
At this point, I don't know if Portugal has a chapter of the Mars Society, but it might. It definitely has a space program.
As a reminder for all, Magellan was Portuguese! He was turned down for funding by the King of Portugal, so he approached Spain and ended up with five ships and over 300 men. Only one of those five ships returned to Spain, but it definitely ** was ** the first (recorded) global navigation. The ship's calendar was one day different from the calendar in Spain because that ship had chased the Sun West for one full cycle. It was Thursday in Santiago, but Wednesday aboard ship.
I'm thinking of proposing a new category behind Mars Society and ahead of Acheron Labs. It might have a name like "Space Programs by Nation"
That way, space programs that are private might still be included, as compared to government programs if we said "National Space Programs"
in any case, here is Google's collection of information about Portugal's space programs and activities...
AI Overview
Yes, Portugal has an active space program managed by the Portuguese Space Agency (Portugal Space), established in 2019. The agency, based in the Azores, promotes the "Portugal Space 2030" strategy, focusing on Earth observation, satellite development, and building a spaceport in Santa Maria for small satellite launches.Key aspects of Portugal's space program include:
Spaceport Azores: Located on Santa Maria Island, this project aims to provide access to space for small satellites, with the Atlantic Spaceport Consortium (ASC) authorized to develop the site.
International Partnerships: Portugal is a member of the European Space Agency (ESA) and signed the Artemis Accords in 2026 for peaceful space exploration.
Space Economy Goals: The program aims to create 1,000 highly skilled jobs and generate hundreds of millions in economic value by 2030, including fostering a commercial "New Space" industry.Key Programs: Initiatives include hosting the European Rocketry Challenge (EuRoC) and developing satellite data technologies.
Portugal Space - Wikipedia
Portugal Space (Portuguese: Agência Espacial Portuguesa) is the Portuguese space agency created by the Portuguese government in co...
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NASA Welcomes Portugal as 60th Artemis Accords SignatoryJan 12, 2026 — It will mark the beginning of a new era of space exploration, reminiscent of the Portuguese explorers of the past, such as Magella...
NASA (.gov)The most ambitious Portuguese project dedicated to New Space
ABOUT. The New Space Portugal project is a consortium of 41 organisations that aims to position Portugal at the forefront of globa...
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https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Portugal_Space
Portugal Space (Portuguese: Agência Espacial Portuguesa) is the Portuguese space agency created by the Portuguese government
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https://ptspace.ptThe Portuguese Space Agency is the organization created by the Portuguese government to implement the national strategy for Space, Portugal Space 2030.
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https://www.nasa.gov › news-release › nasa-welcomes-p...Jan 12, 2026 — Portugal is the latest nation to sign the Artemis Accords alongside 59 other countries in a commitment to advancing principles for the ...
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The Portuguese Space Agency, Portugal Space is an organization created by the Portuguese government to implement the National Strategy for Space (Portugal Space ...ESA Ministerial 2025: Portugal Doubles Its ESA Commitment ...
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Copernicus is the Earth Observation component of the European Union's space programme, looking at our planet and its environment for the benefit of Europe's ...PORTUGAL SPACE (PORTUGUESE SPACE AGENCY)
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https://stip.oecd.org › stip › data › policyInitiativesMay 6, 2025 — Portugal Space is an instrument of the Portuguese government, in close articulation with the Regional Government of the Azores, to implement ...
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Apparently we do not yet have a chapter of the Mars Society in Portugal, but it appears there might be potential...
Per Google:
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Based on current information, there is no official, active chapter of The Mars Society listed specifically for Portugal on the main Mars Society chapters website.
However, Portugal is actively involved in Mars analog research and European space initiatives, including collaboration with Mars Society members and other international bodies.
Key Space/Mars Activities in Portugal:Monsaraz Mars Analog Station (MMAS): Located in the Alentejo region, this is a significant site for Mars-style simulations, operated by the Observatório do Lago Alqueva (OLA) and INESC TEC.
EXPLORE Program: A European educational project that conducts analog Mars missions in Portugal, involving partnerships with organizations like the Austrian Space Forum (OeWF) and NUCLIO.
Analog Missions: The CAMões mission in 2023 was a pioneer in Portuguese space simulation, and subsequent missions in 2025 and 2026 have taken place in Portugal.While an official "chapter" does not exist, local research and participation in European Mars studies are robust. If you are looking to connect with others interested in forming a chapter, The Mars Society suggests filling out a Chapter Interest Form to find others in the region.
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For SpaceNut .... the Index currently provides Mars Society as a Category.
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Category: Mars Society
Forrum » Mars Society International
Let's create a Forum for: Mars Society Chapters
This way, each chapter could be a topic, and we could invite chapter members to contribute posts
The Mars Society was founded in 1998
The newmars.com forum dates back to 2001
The two merged (loosely) at some point.
I think that the support of this forum by the Mars Society justifies a closer bond.
Let's think about creating a new forum under "Mars Society" just for chapters.
A new Category for Space Programs by Nation would be at the same level as Mars Society.
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This is for SpaceNut, but the information applies to everyone.
Our newly renewed member, FriendOfQuark1, used the password change feature of the NewMars.com/forums system.
He succeeded, but reports that the procedure is not as smooth as might have been expected. Here is his report:
> The process is buggy. I had to 'recover password'. That actually sends a "strong" temporary password. But you can't log in with that until you get a second email to create a new password. I got a notice upon that my password had been updated, even though I didn't enter anything. Going back to the other tab and entering the system generated pass let me in.
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> Posted a 'nt' test in not so free chat successfully.
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This is for SpaceNut and it applies to everyone who might wish to store images in the NewMars image server.
At present, our Image Server is running but it cannot connect to the database it shares with the FluxBB package we use for posts.
Mr. Burk changed the MySQL password as part of the hardening he is doing following the recent hacker exploit.
Mr. Burk said he would change the password for the Image Server but it may be a couple of days until he finds time to take care of it.
In the mean time, this is what we see:
General Error
SQL ERROR [ mysqli ]Access denied for user 'newmarscom'@'vps31385.dreamhostps.com' (using password: YES) [1045]
An sql error occurred while fetching this page. Please contact an administrator if this problem persists.
We are set up to use the Lifeboat forum right now, and we can create image links from there just fine.
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mars society index now has the Mars Society Chapters with moved chapters now reside
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Re post #4185...
Thanks for pointing out that we have a forum for Mars Society Chapters. In the present setup, each chapter might have a topic. They could post events information there, as well as comments.
What I'm talking about is a much more attractive offer.
In my proposal, each chapter would be offered an entire forum, with an unlimited number of topics they can create as they see fit.
I bring this to your attention because at this moment, we have a rare opportunity to interact with Executive Director James Burk. He has ** just ** brought us back to life, and he is about to restore the Image Server, if all goes well.
The Mars Society has not benefited from this forum. I'm looking for ways for this forum to benefit the Mars Society, and specifically, the many Mars Society Chapters. Such an offering would bring young people into contact with this forum. That would not happen otherwise.
Again, thank you for pointing out the forum we created for Mars Society Chapters. So far, none have taken advantage of the offer.
I specifically offered our forum to the head of a chapter in the US, and the gent chose not to pursue it. He is already busy organizing events for the chapter and for whatever reason, decided against approaching us.
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here is the information of the actual chapters from copilot
https://chapters.marssociety.org/
?? United States Chapters
These are active or pending chapters with contact pages or sites:Arizona
Phoenix – Contact pageASU Thunderbirds Club – Pending page
California
CSU Chico – ContactChina Lake / Upper Mojave Desert – Contact
Los Angeles (SoCal) – Contact
Northern California (NorCal) – Contact
Pasadena – Contact
San Diego – Contact
Colorado
Rocky Mountain – ContactFlorida
Orlando / Space Coast – ContactGeorgia
Georgia Tech University – ContactHawaii
Hawaii – ContactIndiana
Indiana – ContactPurdue University – Contact
MDRS (Mars Desert Research Station) – Contact
Massachusetts
GYP Youth Humanitarian – ContactBoston – Contact
Maryland / Washington, D.C.
MD/DC – ContactMichigan
Pending page – ContactMinnesota
Pending pageMissouri
St. Louis Region – ContactColumbia Missouri Mars Mavens – Facebook page
Nevada
Las Vegas – Pending pageReno – Pending page
New York
New York City – ContactLake Erie / Western NY–NW PA – Contact
Ohio
Ohio – ContactOklahoma
Tulsa – ContactOregon
Oregon – ContactPennsylvania
Philadelphia – ContactPuerto Rico
Puerto Rico (U.S. Territory) – ContactTexas
Austin – ContactDallas – Contact
Houston – Contact
San Antonio – Contact
Starbase / Boca Chica – Contact
Utah
Utah – ContactSalt Lake City – Pending page
Washington
Seattle – ContactMars Ocean Analogs (MOA) – Contact
? International Chapters
Africa
EgyptKenya
Kuwait
Ghana
Nigeria – Pending page
South Africa – Pending page
Tunisia
Asia
BangladeshChina
Israel
Japan
Malaysia
The Philippines
South Asia (regional)
Europe
Austria – ContactBelgium – Contact
Bulgaria
France – Contact
Czech Republic
Georgia
Germany – Contact
Greece / Cyprus / Hellas
Italy – Contact
Netherlands
Poland
Russia
Scandinavia
Spain – Contact
Switzerland – Contact
Ukraine
United Kingdom – Contact
Isle of Man – Contact
London (UK)
Latin America
ArgentinaBolivia – Contact
Brazil
Chile
Colombia
Costa Rica – Contact
Mexico
Peru
Uruguay – Pending page
Ecuador – Contact
North America (non‑US)
Canada – WinnipegOceania
AustraliaNew Zealand
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First, hoping you are feeling better ...
Second, thanks again for the list of Mars Society Chapters.
Third... Void has assisted us in trying to understand how the secure email service that Calliban and Void are using works (or in this case, doesn't work). I'd like to invite you to join with me in thinking about what policy we might want to put into place for email accounts that our members register with the forum. At present, the policy is for the forum to use email addresses as a unique tie breaker for registrations. There is no automatic verification if an email address is valid. Instead, the automation consists of looking to see if there are two text fields separated by an "at" symbol.
The forum software only cares if there is already an existing email address in the database.
This is (in my opinion) ridiculous!
All modern login systems test the email address by asking the human who submits the email address to send a security code from that email to verify the email exists and that the email works and that the human actually logs into that email address.
We can do the same thing manually, and with only five active members that is practical.
If we start adding new members automation would appear to be a requirement.
Again, hoping you're feeling better!
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when we shut off the registration process the usual first time link in the email has been stopped as the spammers were computer generating and logging in and not a human.
Part of the format is to activate the user id number
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For SpaceNut re #4189 and other matters
Thanks for your notes about the shutoff we did.
FYI ... I heard from Mr. Burk.... he has been extremely busy but did indicate he would try to work activation of our Image Server into his schedule.
In the mean time, your link to the "Lifeboat" is working fine. Thanks (again) for making that available for our members.
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For SpaceNut ....
Please take a look at the link to the New Mars Image Server.
The "BB" appears to be entered there as lower case "bb"
I thought I might have had a caching problem, but have tested on multiple computers and the problems seems to be at the NewMars site.
The Lifeboat link is set up correctly.
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