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#4151 2026-02-27 14:53:12
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Keeping with topic discipline Please alter post 9 & 10 in topic Where Mars Field of Dreams meets Capitalism to not reflect Calliban's Brick Dome on Mars as this is not about that. I understand that you are replying to my post # 9 which is making mars earth to which your reply posts have for both 9 & 10 have errors with in them. I also did not give a corrected height of a shell as I wanted to prove something which was not being grasped...which is resource can only go so far before we are moving materials to mars from other locations.
I would make copies of the 9 - 17 should be copied to Calliban's Brick Dome on Mars as that's what they directly apply to.
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#4152 2026-02-27 15:39:51
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For SpaceNut .... Thanks for your good points about the posts...
You put a post into that topic about the volume Mars air would have if it were compressed to 1/2 bar.
I decided to find out what the volume would be if we used just nitrogen as the limiting component from Mars air, and it turned out that we can host about 500 million people without needing to import any nitrogen.
The idea of containing the air in Calliban's Domes is a logical extension of the basic idea.
You are welcome to move the posts to wherever you think they are a better fit. The question I am dealing with is how capitalism answers the questions of habitat creation better than government programs.
However, I am trying to stay out of the forum except for the calendar topic.
I just couldn't resist the opportunity you provided with your joke about the small volume of Mars air if compressed to 1/2 bar.
It was truly astonishing to me to learn that there is enough Nitrogen to support about 500 million people.
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#4153 2026-02-27 18:07:56
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It was a sarcastic post that some want earth on mars with the actual number is less than 300m high and it is not a logical extension as that is an entirely different design problem as its fully limited to a geometry shape.
when corrected for electrolysis of 6(c02) = 6(co)+ 3(o2)
The co can not be put through the same process to get the extra oxygen.
electrolysis does not super heat co to make carbon fall out as that is a molten carbon
process is the same as water 4(h20) = 2(2ho) + o2 process which applies voltage to plates not just temperature.
Stop trying to hijack the topic...
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#4154 2026-02-28 07:36:47
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For SpaceNut re Post #4153
The topic title is: Where Mars Field of Dreams meets Capitalism
As you pointed out yourself, the post that caught my attention was sarcasm.
Sarcasm is a negative form of humor.
The entire topic appears to be an attempt to cast negative views, and Copilot thwarts the attempt at every turn.
Co-Pilot is relentlessly optimistic, and despite every attempt on your part to cast doubt and fear into the conversation, CoPilot comes back with an optimistic explanation of how capitalism can indeed succeed where government will fail.
Your complaint that I am hyjacking your negative view with an optimistic one is valid. Negative, destructive posts are not helpful.
Readers are not inspired to achieve when they are fed a diet of negative, destructive posts.
Fortunately CoPilot does not play that game, and the contributions of CoPilot are often quite interesting.
If you find yourself about to post something negative or destructive, please think about what effect it might have on the reader.
Will the reader turn away from NewMars.com/forums because a Senior Admin is posting destructive negative views?
What purpose is served by posting negative, destructive views?
Does it make anyone happier?
Why do readers visit this forum?
Is there any reader on Earth who comes to a forum so they can fill up their cup of sorrow for the day?
Upon reflection, I have to admit there appear to be entire web sites dedicated to negative views that are quite successful. Perhaps there ** are ** readers who ** want ** to read a steady diet of posts about failure and misery. There is a German term: Schadenfreude. Perhaps that explains the success of such web sites.
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We lost 7 posts in that series: 461, 463 and 464 and 566, 575, 723 and 859
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#4155 2026-02-28 09:42:44
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but you used narrow reading of the post, which you still are not grasping.... topic now has an more fleshed out response in it to what that simple lines contained.
So do you really think your posts still deserve to be in a topic that was never it?
As you see my sarcasms was a test to see how well others read visually and both copilot and others failed to interpret the words into a 3d view of what they really means until it got a term it could connect to what was said.
That 1 word created the 3d version of what was said.
I was not negative but pragmatic to the optimism of what we can really do on a budget not only of cash, mass but with man hours to perform the task in a realistic means with the available or sent equipment for executing of the plan to build.
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#4156 2026-03-01 11:18:42
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Sunday
17/16/38
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03/01/26
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Meeting tossed a curve in going with composite, adding safe haven air pressure doors and airlocks at the shell and to enter the building
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#4157 2026-03-03 18:02:45
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composite materials topic wiki has been updated
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#4158 2026-03-05 15:27:38
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its been reported...
How come when I type in www.newmars.com, the home page is in Russian and when it translates, it is about Casino's???? When I click on it as well ^
The home page is screwed up.
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#4159 2026-03-05 16:11:26
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sent out follow up emails as to the issue for the web masters
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#4160 2026-03-07 14:52:18
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Sorry still no replies or changes to the homepage of newmars.
17/22/38 03/07/26
38468 26066
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#4161 2026-03-12 14:07:34
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still fighting the issues of the contractor not doing the work and taking deposits. The AG did not get a response from the contractor so they are kicking the can back to the superior court level to civil suit which all but the highest is that just at different money tiers.
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#4162 2026-03-12 18:42:52
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Thanks for update in Post #4161. Best wishes for success at this level. I suppose you have to go through the stages to get to an agency able to deal with the problem.
Regarding your interesting work with CoPilot ... I notice that CoPilot looked at GW's lander design and made some interesting suggestions. In the latest round it appears you persuaded CoPilot to drop the landing gear. I was amused by the hard landing idea but that is not what GW is planning. If you want to help GW you're going have to apply the rein's to your spirited helper. He is currently thinking about how to open the heat shield to allow the engines to operate. I notice that CoPilot thought the engines are at corners. It needs to be instructed that the engines are in line between the pods. GW is thinking about a rail system of some kind . This is the kind of problem CoPilot might be well equipped to solve.
Here's a detail you may have considered but if you have I missed it... the mass of the two wings of the rectangular lander must be identical. The best way to achieve that is to ship two identical machines and identical supplies. Thus, instead of one electric dozer, you would ship two. GW gave you permission to adapt the dimensions of the lander. The only rule you need to obey is the 40 tons landed. I notice that CoPilot got lost and was talking about 30 tons for the entire lander, and while that is interesting, if you want to help GW, please try to pull CoPilot back to 60 tons for the lander and 20 tons for each wing.
As some point, if you ** really ** want to help GW, pull CoPilot back to the question of what engines to buy on the open market to achieve the mission objectives. GW wants to use hypergolic propellants so please try to get CoPilot to forget all that nonsense about LOX and CO and CH4 and whatever else it was musing about. As the leader for CoPilot, you have the reins in your hands, but you need to tighten them slightly to get useful results.
Can CoPilot do force mass? I ask because when the engines are firing, they will be at the center of that 60 ton vessel, and there need to be tension wires that carry force from the center out to the entire length of each wing. CoPilot should be able to compute the forces and thus the tensile strength of the cable needed.
*** Again, best wishes for success with the legal process!
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#4163 2026-03-13 08:31:02
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Now where in the copilot response to the image is there any persuasion, so no engines to the outside, nor landing legs, lox lch4, and the conex box needs heayshielding from centerline engines heat blasting of them as the corners are also getting blast from entry of mars edl to the ground.
It did not get to the force stuff and yes it can but that was not what I did. Nor am I...
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#4164 2026-03-17 17:23:21
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police do not want to file a claim as they think that its civil case
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#4165 2026-03-17 19:50:45
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For SpaceNut re #4164
Thank you for reporting this development. Since I know almost nothing about this specific situation, I asked Gemini, and learned a great deal, including suggestions for possible actions depending upon the State. The police decision is (likely) based upon the proposition that the deposit was accepted with every intention of completing the work. That money should have been kept in a separate account, but obviously it was not. My guess is that if you ask CoPilot the same question, it will provide you with comparable answers, starting with a disclaimer that it is not a lawyer. I'll save the chat as "AI Legal information and Disclaimer" if you want Gemini's answer, but I'll bet CoPilot will be just as good.
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#4166 2026-03-19 09:13:13
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For SpaceNut ... The hackers are updating the newmars.com site.
Please try sending your request letter to kbd512 and to Mr. Burk....
kb512 has been busy in recent weeks so may well not have seen it.
Likewise for Mr. Burk. However, the fact that the hackers are continuing to work on the site is very concerning.
Here is the latest updated version:
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#4167 2026-04-08 17:26:04
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changed the image server to the new-mars.org as kbd512 will need to reinstall the phpbb3 back on to the apache server.
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#4168 2026-04-08 17:33:37
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For SpaceNut .... are you sure nothing was saved from the image server? It would be a lot of work to restore all those images. I had asked kbd512 to perform backups, but he had not performed any before the outage (that he told me about).
That said, perhaps it is best to leave the images on new-mars.org/phpBB3/
kbd512 has heavy demands on his time these days.
Before I start work on restoring the image links, please find out if the database can be recovered. If it can i can install it on my local machine, and recover the images more rapidly from there.
Thanks for keeping the fire lit while the main site was out of action.
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#4169 2026-04-08 18:11:18
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We're back. Yay!
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#4170 2026-04-08 19:07:48
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For SpaceNut .... (and everyone)
Per SpaceNut's recommendation, I've configured our phpBB3 lifeboat site to hold images.
Here is an example image provided by GW Johnson:
Hopefully this link will work. One detail! Add img around the link.
We'll find out soon enough.
OK !!! Success! Be sure to enclose the link to the new-mars.org/phpBB3/ site inside img parameters.
If your post comes up with url instead of img, just edit and re-submit.
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#4171 2026-04-09 05:38:52
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For SpaceNut re version of FlubBB....
From reading the email from Mr. Burk, I realized he did not know we had spent a year upgrading FluxBB from 2012 to 2024 standards.
This led me to wonder which version he connected to the new front end he created for us.
I just checked, and it appears the new version is running. The main clue is the presence of the "Like button can go here" line that we put into the new version as a place holder for the "Like" feature we were planning.
Another clue is the absence of the images you and I implemented just before the old FluxBB was replaced with the new version.
In short, I think we can continue using FluxBB safely. We might want to schedule another review of the software every year, just to be on the safe side. Each review is a lot of work, as you may recall. Every module has to be brought into Visual Studio Code and processed by the php extension, to find and remove any out-of-date construction or code elements that are obsolete. We also updated the MySQL during that upgrade, so that too needs to be reviewed.
In short, I am relieved to find we did not fall back to the 2012 version.
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#4172 2026-04-09 05:50:39
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For SpaceNut ...
This entire incident has revealed a serious shortcoming in our configuration ... We had been (certainly ** I ** had been) assuming the email addresses were working for us to contact our members. We subsequently learned that NO ONE responded to an outreach from newmarsmember. The only members who were able to remain connected were the four Admins and GW Johnson, all of whom were in regular contact by email.
This too needs to be reviewed at least annually.
In the case of Calliban, we discovered that our email address was not in his "approved" list so our email was rejected by the secure email company he uses.
We had addresses for other members, but no response was received. The cause could have been obsolete email address, or it could have been spam filters that blocked the email we sent out. Or I suppose the members might simply not be reading that old email address.
Whatever the cause, the net effect was that we were unable to reach our members to notify them the lifeboat was running on Azure.
And! Unless a member happens to check to see if newmars.com is back, there is no way for us to contact them.
Bottom line ... we may be rebuilding from the same set of folks who were with us in the lifeboat.
The only chance we have of building membership is FOQ1, because FOQ1 is in contact with members of the young generation thanks to his work with the northhoustonspace.org chapter of the National Space Society., However, FOQ1 tells me there are severe restrictions upon contact with persons under the age of 18 that would (potentially) stand in the way of outreach to the very young people who are likely to be traveling to Mars or building industries to support the Mars endeavor.
One thing we can start thinking about is how to improve the tone of the forum so that younger members might be willing to give it a try.
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#4173 2026-04-09 05:58:53
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For SpaceNut ....
FriendOfQuark1 was set as InActive at some point, and I do not appear to have the power to change that.
Please change FriendOfQuark1 back to Active and let us know when the change is in effect.
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#4174 2026-04-09 09:14:17
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I want to express appreciation for the entities that can cause this web site to exist. Good work.
I do say that in reality I have been and am a free rider.
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Is it possible that the root of political science claims is to produce white collar jobs for people who paid for an education and do not want a real job?
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#4175 2026-04-09 10:05:28
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For SpaceNut re email addresses up to date....
It is time for us to think about how we would like to perform the email check we've been discussing since the recent outage began.
Void has just rejoined the forum.
I believe Void's email address may not be working. I've invited Void to change the address to a working one, or to contact us if it is working so we can test it.
The procedure I recommend is to reset the password of our members (at a time of their choosing) so they can make sure the email address works.
This procedure would be done once a year. A logical time is the anniversary of their member start date. That would spread the activity out over a year.
Please let me know what you think.
Obviously the Admins and GW Johnson do not need that service because they all stayed in touch during the outage.
In order to test the procedure, I will send a test email to you using the built-in email service.
Hi SpaceNut!
This is a test to be sure the email service is working after Mr. Burk restored service.
I'd like to use this mechanism to be sure each of our members has a current and working email address.
We can do this annually, if everyone agrees.
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