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Bush Plans to Outsource NASA to India
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While a billion won't buy a new ship, it could buy several launches. How might that be made useful?
Let's assume every launch pad on the planet is available.
Most expensive : You might not be able to afford a Japan rocket, ask the Japanese for a lift ? This is very expensive due to their over-priced bubble economy and high-labor costs in Japan. They haven't lifted heavy craft and recent Japan rockets have been unreliable and might even explode.
Quiet Expensive: USA and Europe ( high success rates and large payloads ) but at a high cost when compared to Russian rockets. The most expensive American launch is the STS-Shuttle which costs about a billion to get moving.
Ruskies: Prices might go from $40-million to 120$-million depending on what you're after. Russia offers great prices and good payload ability but the problem is all the political back scratching you'll have to do, and you may find yourself no longer in charge of your own mission and find the Ruskies and Kazakhs running the show. Russia has great launch vehicles but the Russian pads aren't ideal for geostationary orbit.
Ultra-Cheap: Israel, India, North-Korea, Brazil, ...et cetera. The problem with these guys is that many of their launch vehicles look like ugly-Scud missiles and they mostly launch the payloads of sounding-rockets, there is also a high possibilty that these rockets will blow up on the pad or fall back down on your head.
Bush's India visit expands technology partnerships
http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/show … =181500603
President George Bush’s visit to India has yielded a range of bilateral partnerships in technology, aerospace and intellectual property.
During a visit to Hyderabad on Friday (March 3), Bush also said there would be no curbs on outsourcing from the U.S., stating that he was in favor of more competition, not less.
Bush finalised the agreement with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh after a year of preparation by the two countries.
The deal was drawn up by a joint working group formed in June to look at expanding civil space co-operation. The group is led by Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) satellite centre director P S Goel and US State Department principal deputy assistant secretary Anthony Rock.
http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles/2006/03/14/
“An agreement has been reached that will permit US satellites and satellites containing US components to be launched by Indian space launch vehicles,” says the US-Indian joint statement. ISRO has been expecting NASA to provide instrumentation for its Chandrayaan-1 Moon probe, set for launch in early 2008.
The Indo-US deal on space research and application would usher in an era of joint exploration between the space agencies of the two nations, former chairman of Indian Space Research Organisation K Kasturirangan said today.
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Indo_ … ation.html
"We have signed a deal and this would enable both ISRO and NASA for future joint space explorations including Mars and other inter-planetary missions," Kasturirangan, also the director of National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore said here last evening at the 47th foundation day of the Indian Institute of Technology.
Thank goodness for Michael Griffin, finally someone starting to talk some sense... Now, out with SSME, in with RS-68.
Griffin knows his stuff, he's doing some great work
The reason why NASA is looking to use the ESA's Ariane-V rocket isn't because of lifting power, the Delta-IV Heavy is every bit its equal, its because of cost. See, NASA wants to trade a free launch with the ESA for time on the telescope (saving a ~$300M Delta-IV HLV launch), since the JWST price is starting to spiral out of control just like Hubble did.
The Delta rockets look very good but Delta-4H didn't do the best performances in December. The launch entered orbit at a height of about 100 km and the orbit started to decay raipdly.
ESA's Venus Express spacecraft is closing the distance to its destination and remains on course for its rendezvous with the veiled planet on April 11, mission controllers said.
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Venus … ation.html
The Venus Express team said the spacecraft's systems are ready for the orbit insertion around Venus and for the first in-orbit operations. Controllers based their assessment of the spacecraft's readiness for the approach to Venus on the "excellent" performance of the main engine during its Feb. 17 test
Video of the Venus Express
http://esatv-movies.e-vision.nl/videos/ … wmplow.wmv
Preparation for Venus Approach
13 Mar 2006 11:23
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object … ctid=38933
Report for period 03 March to 09 March 2006
With the reporting period all calibration, science and maintenance activities of the instruments have been completed and focus is now on the Venus approach phase. These included the last MAG and ASPERA science acquisitions and a USO drift test.
Future Milestones
The spacecraft is now configured for the Venus approach phase and activities will focus only to this.
The intense navigation campaign will enter now a period of maximum activity in order to have an extremely precise assessment of the spacecraft trajectory versus its target point at the planet.
Video Talk
Modem - Riddles of the rocky planets / Mysteries of Venus
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Video_Talk_ … 3EE_0.html
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Video_Talk_ … 2FE_0.html
Broadband - Riddles of the rocky planets / Mysteries of Venus
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/VideoTalk/S … 3EE_0.html
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/VideoTalk/S … 3EE_0.html
videos with subtitle options
This was a celebration of new Venus missions, thanks to our colleagues in other countries. Many of the scientists and students attending were from Japan, a country that will be launching their first Venus orbiter in 2010. Also well represented were the various member states of the European Space Agency, whose Venus Express spacecraft was launched last November and will enter Venus orbit this April.
It was also a reminder that in current NASA planning, Venus remains "the forgotten planet." Throughout the week it became clear that the importance of Venus in planetary science is not reflected in NASA's current exploration plans. In fact, Venus has received visits from only two American missions in the last 30 years (not counting the fly-bys of Galileo and Cassini, which got a gravitational kick from Venus on their way to the outer solar system).
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Earth … Venus.html
The final session dealt with extrasolar planets and astrobiology. But, wait a minute, this meeting was supposed to be about Venus
why were we talking about other solar systems and the search for life? Because, as Dr. Victoria Meadows from JPL explained, many extrasolar planets are likely to be Venus-like. If we want to be prepared for the coming era of comparative planetology, when we have data about Earth-sized planets around other stars, we had better pay more attention to Venus
After a flurry of media statements, the latest wave of official Shenzhou publicity seems to be drawing to a close. China has now mapped out plans for its next four launches in the Shenzhou program, and has clarified details on the next flight.
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/The_S … mpics.html
But one plausible conclusion seems to have escaped most reports in the aerospace media. The flight of Shenzhou 7 could be timed to coincide with the Beijing Olympics.
other China threads
Shenzhou 6
http://www.newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3957
Chang'e Lunar mission
http://www.newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4170
Chinese space tech
http://www.newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3983
Shenzhou 5
http://www.newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=498
The NASA Science Missions Getting Cut
http://www.universetoday.com/am/publish … ml?1132006
Following are some of the areas that would be affected:
- Research and analysis: 15% across-the-board cuts in grants for research, ($350 to $400 million over the next five years) with some retroactive to 2006. An official at NASA Headquarters said he wasn't aware that any notices of specific research cuts have been issued at this time.
- Astrobiology research alone will have 50% of funding slashed.
- Astronomy and astrophysics at NASA cut by 20% over 5 years
- Aeronautics: cut by 18.1%, down to $724.4 million
Additional Programs Affected
Two Mars Scout missions planned for after 2011 were removed from the four year planning budget. These missions may have included airborne vehicles such as airplanes or balloons and small landers.The Explorer Program, which launches small spacecraft to study areas such as Heliophysics and Astrophysics would be cut drastically with the earliest launch coming in 2014.
Beyond Einstein would be delayed indefinitely. These are missions such as Constellation -X and LISA that would attempt to answer questions about the Big Bang, Black Holes and Dark Matter.
The Associated Press has reported that a long list of satellites orbiting Earth are under threat of being delayed, downsized or cancelled. Scientists have warned that decreasing funding for these satellites will jeopardize the capability for forecasting weather and monitoring environmental issues.
The list includes:Landsat: delay in launch of satellite to replace and upgrade Landsat 7, launched in 1999.
Earth Observing System: If cut, satellites such as Aqua (2002) and Terra (1999) would not be replaced when they fail.
Global Precipitation Measuring Mission: The launch of GPMM has been pushed back to 2012. GPMM will replace and upgrade the Tropical Rainfall Measuring Mission, which was supposed to be decommissioned in 2004.
Deep Space Climate Observatory: cancelled. An Earth observing satellite placed at the L-1 Point to determine cloud and radiation properties of the atmosphere. The spacecraft is already built, but would cost $60-100 million to launch and operate.
National Polar-Orbiting Operational Environmental Satellite System: Under review. Will monitor global environmental conditions, and collect and disseminate data related to weather, atmosphere, oceans and land, and is a cooperative effort between NASA, NOAA, the Department of Defense and the Department of Commerce.
Prometheus has been cut by $430 million in 2005 to only $100 million in 2006, it seems to have got zero funding in 2007
no funding for a JIMO.
NASA is instead considering a demonstration mission to a target closer to Earth to test out the reactor and heat rejection systems.
Corot will be the first mission capable of detecting rocky planets outside our Solar System.
http://www.euronews.net/create_html.php … pace&lng=1
http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMISENVGJE_index_0.html
EuroNews takes a closer look at this 30-centimetre diameter space telescope
That just it GCNRevenger, the CEV might be twice as big as Apollo, but it still not going to be big enough to even put together a large colonization colony even on the moon.
Very true, the mission isn't about setting up a lunar settlement its about marking the flag planting anniversary of Armstrong and Aldrin. The advantages of a livable Lunar site is that it may take a lot less launches than Mars, a heap of nations have gone to the Moon with robots, communication delay to Earth is almost none, the USA has landed people there, and emergency supplies can quickly reach a Moon colony from Earth. A real Moon base camp and permanent human habitation will require a lot more than Apollo or 'Apollo-on-steroid'. First before we make a base a lunar site must be chosen, robotic craft like ESA's Smart-1 are scanning the chemical make-up of the Moon, and NASA's robotic LRO is due to take off in 2008. The CaLVs or AresHeavy or Magnums will be a start but it won't be enough - setting up the first Moon-base might require a lander and astronauts on the Moon plus a heap of equipment, oxygen, diggers, fuel, Moon-buggy, water, food, dumpers, lunar vehicles.....
CaLV or Ares Heavy isn't a magic wand, its power is comparable to Energia or Saturn-V, it could also be compared to designs like Angara100, the failed N1, ChangZheng-5, Ariane-6 ( Ariane-M ?)The most any of the original Apollo missions stayed on the Moon were only a few hours or days at max, even with a mission like 'Apollo on steroids' astronauts won't be able to stay on the Moon for long ( perhaps only 2 weeks to pick up the rocks and plant the flags after that they may begin running out of important things like air, electricity, fuel and food ).
Even the smallest of lunar bases will need
4 Ares Magnums or 4 CaLV's
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http://www.safesimplesoon.com/assets/im … Inline.jpg+ 1 CEV launch
http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827/1d … oon_01.jpg
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=18023
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Astronuats will need to stay record durations of time in Space and on the Moon, it will be very difficult to launch many CaLV's in rapid sucession for maxium benefit, however we know astronuats can't work 24/7 during their trip to the Moon, they are likely to find small problems in setting up the site or will need to be re-supplied with fuel or food, or will need new expeditions with updated equipment and new astronauts.more likely the smallest of Lunar sites will require at least
11 CaLVs/Ares or 11 Magnum
Plus 4 CEV ( CLVs )
The first lunar site may not totally depend on the CaLVs, there may be other possible launchers designed like Angara-100, LongMarch5, Ariane-M ( Ariane6 ? )
Eleven Cargo Launches ? That's a lot !
Most colonies, biodomes, hydroponic farms etc aren't going to be totally effective or self sufficient
Why do you think they can only stay for a week? The case for mars shows how to bring food for 2 years or so. Oxygen and water can be recycled or perhaps even harvested from the moon.
Martian colony or Mars bio-sphere could be easier. Yet some Mars-fans and Moon-fans think Moon bases need to be bigger and plans like Mars-Direct has minor flaws, then others say Zubrin's HAB and the ERV are too small.
European space solidarity
France calls for European space solidarity
Chirac’s statement comes amid controversy over anti-takeover measures
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11752893/
France - President Jacques Chirac, under fire from European Union officials for shielding French companies from foreign bidders, called on Thursday for greater European cooperation on space projects.
Speaking at Franco-Italian satellite maker Alcatel Alenia Space, a subsidiary of France’s Alcatel and Italy’s Finmeccanica, Chirac said European firms must stick together to keep Europe at the cutting edge of space technology.
“Space must be at the heart of the European project,” said Chirac, who proposed the creation of a Mediterranean center for the prevention of risks using space technology.
Europe should be able to use these systems to monitor global warming and pollution, predict floods and eventually for tracking large meteorites, he said.......Europe is in the embarrassing position of waiting to hitch a ride into space from the United States for a $1.2 billion laboratory that has been stuck on Earth for two years. The space shuttle is the only vehicle with the capacity to take the laboratory into space.
Chirac noted that the United States spends six times more of its public funds than Europe on developing space programs....
CEV vs. Apollo
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/ … vs.apollo/
Notable differences between new CEV and Apollo moon capsule
NASA closing in on naming new fleet
2/27/2006 8:55:00 AM
By: Chris Bergin
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?id=4333
Sources have revealed the latest list of the names NASA has given to its new fleet, with a Greek goddess, a Roman mythological god, and a near-by star winning through as the identities of the new ships that will send America back to the moon and on to Mars.
In the next decade, Altair, Artemis and Ares (I and V) could well become space community household names, as NASA returns to exploration past our own orbit.
NASA: Cleveland center can't handle major role in moon mission,
http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/13856525.htm
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindeal … xml&coll=2
Glenn could get work on shuttle replacement - But management needs improvement, reports say
The CEV and Shuttle look like they are going ahead, they got their money.
however
Mars smaple mission - MSR looks delayed
the Dawn Discovery mission seems to be cancelled
The outrigger Keck telescopes are gone.
MTO is dead
NASA has dropped the Methane-Engine from CEV
LISA and Constellation-X will be delayed indefinitely
Europa probe is getting axed
Mars research has been cut by $243.3 million to $700.2 million
Wind tunnel tests
http://www.newscientistspace.com/article.ns?id=dn8819
Lockheed plan would assemble, test CEV in Florida
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n0602/22cev/
The Northrop Grumman Corporation and The Boeing Company
- Crew Exploration Vehicle (CEV) team already named Leonard Nicholson, a former International Space Station executive for Boeing, as its new deputy program manager.
Northrop, Boeing merged CEV efforts
http://www.spacetoday.net/Summary/2637
NASA's Space Shuttle Program successfully fired a full-scale, full-duration reusable solid rocket technical evaluation motor Thursday, March 9, at a Utah test facility. The two-minute static, or stationary, firing of the rocket motor was performed at ATK Thiokol, a unit of Alliant Techsystems Inc., in Promontory, north of Salt Lake City.
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/NASA_ … _Test.html
The technical evaluation motor, or TEM-12, burned for approximately 123 seconds, the same duration each reusable solid rocket motor burns during an actual space shuttle launch. The static-fire test included 26 specific objectives and used 89 instrumentation channels to collect and evaluate the motor's performance
NASA assesses unexpected reading from fuel tank sensor
Shuttle engineers are studying what, if anything, to do about an unexpected reading from one of four liquid hydrogen main engine cutoff - ECO - sensors in Discovery's external fuel tank, officials said today. The sensors play a critical role during the climb to space by ensuring a shuttle's main engines shut down normally before draining the ship's external tank. A malfunction could trigger an early engine shutdown or let the powerplants run too long.
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/s … ecosensor/
Neil Armstrong says a human expedition to Mars won't happen for at least 20 years ?
What I think Armstrong means is that Mars would be easier to colonize than the Moon & Mars will have more resources for settlement & habitation
however getting a big payload to Mars is the hard part, rescue missions are almost impossible and surviving the long trip there and back has been a recent question
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/c … 40325.html
While flagging the issues of astronaut safety, McSween said that he anticipated a human mission to Mars as "medium risk" proposition. "The risk is probably more from the problems in dealing with microgravity and radiation than it will be from the martian environment," he concluded
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005 … devils.htm
Because Martian dust devils can tower 8 to 10 kilometers high, planetary meteorologists now think the devils may be responsible for throwing so much dust high into the Martian atmosphere. Importantly for astronauts, that dust may be carrying negative charges high into the atmosphere as well. Charge building up at the storm top could pose a hazard to a rocket taking off from Mars, as happened to Apollo 12 in November 1969 when it lifted off from Florida during a thunderstorm: the rocket exhaust ionized or broke down the air molecules, leaving a trail of charged molecules all the way down to the ground, triggering a lightning bolt that struck the spacecraft.
http://www.marstoday.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=16160
How can robotic exploration missions sent to Mars aid NASA in assessing the risks to astronauts posed by possible environmental, chemical, and biological agents on the planet? Of critical importance is whether it will be necessary to return Martian soil and/or air-borne dust samples to Earth prior to the first human mission to Mars to assure astronaut health and safety.
China should set up a governmental agency as a leading body of the nation's space program, a former chief designer of spacecraft said during the annual session of the country's top political advisory body.
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Aeros … ogram.html
China needs a unified leading organ to plan the country's program of manned space mission, satellites and lunar exploration as a whole, said Qi Faren, chief designer of China's first five Shenzhou spaceships and a National Committee member of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC).
China will seek three breakthroughs in its space program in the next five years, a former senior commander of the country's manned space mission said Tuesday.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006- … 268630.htm
Space walk, lunar exploration and carrier rockets with greater propulsive forces are listed on the top agenda of the country's space program for the 2006-2010 period, said Hu Shixiang, former deputy commander-in-chief for China's manned space mission.
In the "space race" of the early 1960s, when reporters asked U.S. rocket pioneer Wernher von Braun what he expected to find on the moon, he jokingly replied: "Russians."
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f … pe=science
Nowadays, his answer might be: "Indians, Chinese, Japanese and Europeans."
India, China, Japan and Europe are busy launching, or planning to launch, robotic spaceships to the moon and points beyond.
The European Space Agency (ESA) so far is planning to use Russian Soyuz boosters to launch satellites from the Kourou cosmodrome in French Guiana, but not for manned flights.
http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.htm … &PageNum=0
However, “never say never,” ESA Director General Jean-Jacques Dordain told a press conference in the John Kennedy Space center on Cape Canaveral on Thursday.
Artist's impression of a Soyuz liftoff at Europe's Spaceport in French Guiana
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Launchers_A … ESD_1.html
Guiana is the French/European spaceport for ESA missions and Ariane launches and France offered to share Kourou with ESA. Europeans built a number of launch pads over the years, the Italians had a launch site at San-Marco off the Kenya coast in Africa, the British tested rockets in Australia and the French had sent off launchers from Algeria. Kourou provided France with the alternative to the African/Arab rocket test base in Algeria, evacuated in the aftermath of the Algerian war.
The European Space Agency, the French space agency CNES as well as the commercial Arianespace company launch their satellites from Kourou. The ESA is currently building facilities for launching Russian built Soyuz rockets from this spaceport. Under the terms of a Russo-European joint venture, ESA will augment its own launch vehicle fleet with Soyuz rockets (and use them to launch ESA and/or commercial payloads) and the Russians will get access to the Kourou spaceport for launching their own payloads with Soyuz rockets.
Arianespace and Roscosmos sign contract to kick off Soyuz operations phase at Guiana Space Center
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=19000
Soyuz nearing French Guiana
http://www.cnes.fr/html/_455_463_1545_2864_.php
An exotic ocean-side coastline, near a sleepy town of Kourou, located just five degrees north of the Equator, would provide a starting point for a safe flight corridor over the Atlantic Ocean and give the rocket extra 460 meters per second in velocity from the natural Earth rotation.
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/kourou.html
And round the bend it goes... right on target!
Great job!
fantastic for Mars fan ! another great Orbiter to the Red-planet
looking forward to the 1st readings and photos
Ther has been a decision to keep the budget increases small and to tighten the belt. NASA's Budget Blunder
All of which has lead to a decrease in the efforts of science and associated missions probes.Lots of commotion on capitol hill on the issue of science being cut as well.
[url=http://www.house.gov/science/press/109/109-199.htm]SCIENCE LEADERS ARGUE FOR DIFFERENT PRIORITIES IN NASA’S SCIENCE BUDGET FOR FY07
NASA Agrees to Reexamine Allocation[/url]
Open letter to NASA Administrator, Michael Griffin
March 10 , 2006
http://www.planetary.org/
It is been a rather heady and intense time at The Planetary Society. The political problems posed by the NASA budget -- with deep cuts in space science -- are curiously juxtaposed with the excitement about the finding of water evidence at Enceladus, the moon of Saturn, and the orbit insertion of Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. (The Japanese success at Hayabusa is also not lost on us, nor is the upcoming orbit insertion of Europe’s Venus Express).
http://www.planetary.org/home/
Gone (delayed indefinitely, in NASA-speak):
* Mission to Europa
* Terrestrial Planet Finder
* Mars Scout missions after 2011
* Mars Sample Return
* Mars Telecommunications Orbiter
* DAWN -- mission to two largest asteroids
Slashed (scaled back):
* Astrobiology research -- down 50%
* Research and analysis -- down 15%
And China is forced to put its next manned mission back by 6 months
some delays for China, well now they aren't moving so fast
but their robo-Moon craft looks very good
Moon probe program to boost innovation
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006- … 258055.htm
China's moon-probe program will pave the way for the country's high-tech breakthroughs and innovation and will help train a large group of top scientists, a senior space scientist said here Saturday.
Ouyang Ziyuan, an academician of Chinese Academy of Sciences and also the country's chief scientist on the moon-probe program, said at a symposium Saturday that China will benefit from its probe of the moon, particularly in the field of scientific innovation.
The moon probe demands lots of advanced technologies in the aspects of rocket communications, observing and control, remote sensing and manufacturing of lots of complicated instruments, the scientist said.