New Mars Forums

There's a couple of possible candidates in the Green Party who are very interested in funding space projects.  Even though the GP doesn't stand a chance in hell of winning a lot of seats I'm going to start voting Green.  As far as I'm concerned the two main parties aren't worth voting for anyway.

Would you like one that simply says "The Mars Society" on top and the web site address on the bottom, perhaps with a Mars terrain background image from Mars Global Surveyor?

This is the ad I promised I would post, all that is left is to plug in the relevent data in the spaces clearly marked.
Tell me what you think, and what changes I should make.

Ad starts with a shot of a suburban family, dad is grilling, the kids are swimming in the pool. Mom is bringing the potato salad out of the house, and they proceed to the picnic table. They begin to eat as the voice over starts.
Voice over start.
"You have heard many things about nuclear power, most of them negative and untrue. This program will show you the truth that big oil, coal, gas, does not want you to hear."
Cut to aerial of a nuclear plant.
"The (insert name of depicted plant) plant you see here is generating (insert power output). Notice the lack of air pollution. The water vapor you see coming from the cooling tower/s is less radioactive than the beer you see in the store."
Cut to aerial of a coal plant.
"The (insert plant name here) is generating the same amount of power as the nuclear powerplant you saw earlier. Notice the air pollution, and the gasses coming from the smoke stacks release (insert weight of radioactive material released)
a day, it would take over (insert number of plants) to match this daily amount of radioactive output from their full fuel
cycle."
Cut to nuclear plant.
"You see the area that the nuclear plant uses."
Cut to coal plant.
"Now compare that to the area this coal plant uses."
Cut to Video stock of a greenpeace protest outside a nuclear
plant, preferably a recent protest.
"Now you see them."
Cut to ground shot of coal plant.
"Now you don't. Why do they call themselves greenpeace if they protest..."
Cut to nuclear plant"
"this..."
Cut to coal plant.
"and not this?
It takes only (insert weight of fuel) to fuel a 200 MW nuclear reactor for a full year, *camera pan over coal piles* the coal you see here will be used up in a matter of days to generate the same amount of power.
There have been (insert number of deaths) related to radioactivity in the nuclear industry since 1950.
Cut to coal plant.
There have been (insert number of deaths) related to blacklung, cancer, and other diseases in the coal industry since 1950.
The radiation released by the Chernobyl plant, which had no containment vessel, was (blank) rads.
The worst us accident was Three Mile Island, which released (blank) number of rads due to the containment vessel
that are in all first generation u.s. plants. The first generation plants were designed in 19** The modular pebble bed reactor is a 3rd generation design and was designed in 19**, and would be much safer. The need for protecting nuclear plants can be soled by hiring armed guards, or by creating a special branch of the military to protect them.

Now on to solar and wind power.
*Arial shot of solar powerplant*
Solar power?
*Arial shot of turbine farm*
and wind power produce a small amount of power compared to nuclear, but are great as supplementing the power grid. They are not practical for the total power supply. Solar power plants are often located along gas pipelines due to the fact they burn natural gas at night to keep their steam turbines up to speed. The nest time you are at a lecture, of hear someone extolling solar power as the clean power source of the future, just ask how much concrete, steel, glass, etc is needed to build them, and the amount of pollutants released manufacturing and refining these materials.
To build a 200 MW solar plant would require (blank) tons of concrete, (blank) tons of glass, (blank) tons of steel,
(blank) tons of plastic, (blank) acres of land, and would burn (blank) cubic feet of gas at night.
Solar power is also intermittent unlike nuclear.
*Shot of windfarm
Wind power is also a very nice supplement to the power grid, but is also intermittent, and requires large tracts of land that is has a good breeze, usually along the coast and on hills/mountains. This the favorite of greenpeace, but the thing they don?t say is just how many birds fly into the turning blades, not to mention the vibration given off by the many slowly turning blades.
To build a 50 MW wind farm would require (blank) tons of concrete, (blank) tons of glass, (blank) tons of steel,
(Blank) tons of plastic, and (blank) acres of land.
*Animation of 200 MW OTC plant
The OTC concept comes closest to nuclear power levels, though not in compactness. They would require
(Blank) tons of concrete, (blank) tons of steel, (Blank) tons of plastic, (blank) acres of land, (blank) tons of fiberglass, and (blank) tons of ammonia for working fluid. They are very clean, but can only be built a couple miles
off the coast.
A powerplant using methane would be much like one using natural gas, but would use methane generated from garbage, sewage, etc. The advantage of methane is that the spent slurry from the digester producing methane is a very good fertilizer and soil conditioner, is weed free, and best of all, has no smell if the feedstock is digested at 95 degrees.
Geothermal is a promising technology that taps into the heat from the mantle, but the problem of turbine blade erosion by the mineral laden steam must be solved first. Also they need deep bore holes which have a habit of causing the steam to be laden with heavy metals and acids. These are solvable problems, but will take much time and resources.

The thing is, (pause) renewable energy, like solar, wind, OTC, Methane, geothermal, are great for adding to the power supply, but should not be relied on completely for power generation. When combined with a modular nuclear
Powerplants, such as a pebble bed reactor, they become extremely valuable in powering the future.

End voice over.
Cut back to family, who are now well underway on eating.
Dad wipes his mouth, and stands up. The camera zooms in on his face.
"My names (insert name), the information you have seen is unbiased fact, I know because I not only support nuclear power, *camera slowly pulls away, revealing the mother and kids standing on either side of his* I work at a nuclear power plant. I cannot understand why greenpeace hates us, for I do it not just for me, not just for the environment, but for my kids. I want to leave them a cleaner planet, because despite what you have may heard, we owe it to our kids do leave them better off than us, its just what a parent should do."
Fade out as family sits back down to eat.

Maybe if you guys started an ad campaign that stated the with an ad similar to the following:

Ad starts with a shot of a suburban family, dad is grilling, the kids, are swimming in the pool. mom is bring the potato salad out of the house, and they proceed to the picnic table. they begin to eat as the voice over starts.
Voice over start.
"you have heard many things about nuclear power, most of them negative and untrue. this program will show you the truth that big oil, coal, gas, does not want you to hear."
Cut to aerial of a nuclear plant.
"The (insert name of depicted plant) plant you see here is generating (insert power output). notice the lack of air pollution. The water vapor you see coming from the cooling tower/s is less radioactive than the beer you see in the store."
Cut to aerial of a coal plant.
"The (insert plant name here) is generating the same amount of power as the nuclear powerplant you saw earlier. Notice the air pollution, and the gasses coming from the smoke stacks release (insert weight of radioactive material released)
a day, it would take over (insert number of plants) to match this daily amount of radioactive output from their full fuel
cycle."
Cut to nuclear plant.
"You see the area that the Nuclear plant uses."
Cut to coal plant.
"Now compare that to the area this coal plant uses."
Cut to Video stock of a greenpeace protest outside a nuclear
plant, preferably a recent protest.
"Now you see them."
Cut to ground shot of coal plant.
"Now you don't. Why do they call themselves greenpeace if they protest..."
Cut to nuclear plant"
"this..."
Cut to coal plant.
"And not this.
It takes only (insert weight of fuel) to fuel a nuclear reactor for a full year,*camera pan over coal piles* the coal you see here will be used up in a matter of days."
Cut to nuclear plant.
There have been (insert number of deaths) related to radioactivity in the nuclear industry since 1950.
Cut to coal plant.
There have been (insert number of deaths) related to blacklung, cancer, and other diseises in the coal industry since 1950.
End voice over.
Cut back to family, who are now well underway on eating.
Dad wipes his mouth, and stands up. The camera zooms in on his face.
"my names (insert name), the information you have seen is unbiased fact, I know because I not only support nuclear power, *camera slowly pulls away, revealing the mother and kids standing on eather side of his* I work at a nuclear power plant. I cannot understand why greenpeace hates us, for I do it not just for me, not just for the environment, but for my kids. I want to leave them a cleaner planet, because despite what you have may heard, we owe it to our kids do leave them better off than us, its just what a parent should do."
Fade out as family sits back down to eat.

So, how would that work?

Renormalizability has to do with getting a finite answer from previous infinities in the equations that combined special relativity with quantum mechanics.  At first theorists and experimentalists thought renormalizability was just a calculation trick, but then they realized that quantum particles have less or more mass depending on how close you look at them(they seem to be pretty fractal objects); this led to the unification theories of the weak and quantum electrodynamics theories, and then later to grand unification theories(the combining of the strong nuclear, weak nuclear, and photon theories).  As the temperature goes up, the strong nuclear force weakens, and the electromagnetic and weak nuclear forces get stronger.

I'm not to sure how much more details you want; i'm just saying ever more as I remember more; i really havn't thought about these things for awhile; i spend my time thinking about the nature of mathematics and the mind more these day's.