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LO

One remark, first, the present is result of the past, the democratic regime is India, India kept good relationships with the former USSR, USA have favoured Pakistan, therefore the idea that USA favours democracy is a fake. This is a simple notice, as a french, I can't say that France favoured democracy in its former colonies, favouring local crazy dictators.
USA supplies Pakistan with F16, for instance, for a F16 and its maintenance, there is a school that is not built, replaced by a coranic school, for a F16 squad, it's an university that isn't built, replaced by a madrassa and so on...the clerics do what the governement does not.
I'm not the master of the game, I can only suggest that Pakistan should be treated like a sick country, not just like a jack on the chessboard

The Brits had an easier job than US troops, the region administrated by the Brits is now almost 100% Shia, with interethnic hate, the Sunnis leaved, today it's ethnically "pure".

Iraq WAS stable. We know that Saddam fulfilled the UNO resolutions about its weaponry, with some disagreements on 20~30 km range for some missiles.
Any US try to prove Saddam had WMD has failled, except for some ultra rep fantasms.
When the US expeditionnary corp was gathering in the Gulf, the baasists were really scared in spite of Saddam's blufs, more international demands on more power share could have led to an acceptable regime, but baby Bush wanted to surpass dad.

It would be a disaster because the way Iraq was ruled by the coalition with the idea of punishment at the Baasists and the Sunnis which turned them into ennemies of this democracy set by foreign powers. They still are because there is a federalism which de facto deprives the Sunnis of the oil benefits.

LO

That's wrong, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Mossadegh, as you see, the West crushed an iranian democratic regime which wanted Iran to take control over iranian oilfields. Seek Mossadegh on the web, there seems to be censorship with the link
We did attack Iran, not the contrary.
You liked the Shah much better, but to the eyes of average Iranians, he has always been the Man of the West, a megalomaniac dictator set in order to deprive the Iranian people off the oil benefits, spent to forge the army of the "local western policeman"
Yes, France played a role, authorities may had hopes of juicy markets with a regime change, so what ? The whole situation went unpredictable, the crowd anger at the Shah regime overwhelmed all calculations, any hope to have a friendly democratic regime.

You reverse roles so easily...    Up to now, USA is the only country which have launched nuclear attacks.
The Iranians don't want to blow you up, don't mix with Al Qaeda, they just don't want to be threatened by any foreign power.

Let Iran in peace and let them devellop their country as they can, modernisation and wealth  is the only issue to have a nation which will be eager to oust mollahs and send them back into the mosques.

By some ways, I'm a liberal, by other ways, rather a harsh competitor and I'm not happy on world disorders.
I observe that the agressive attitude is a failure, USA, with an agressive leadership of peoples which tought that with no force challenger, they could allow themselves anything, like starting an illegal war on lies thrown publicly to whole world, has a historically law audience and credibility, not anymore moral with torture than any barbarian state.
Therefore, as a liberal citizen, nevertheless law, order and peace lover, I'd like some wiser leaders, more clever, in White House and in the US parliaments, be Dems or Reps.

You always talk about extremists.
I guess lot of Iranians love their children too.

haHa, big muscles, You 
The US Army toughtly tries to replace end contract soldiers to serve in Iraq.
You can waste a country by air war, but if you have to control lands, that a big problem. By the way, are you quite sure that the US army does control Iraq ?

Yes, man, Tsahal destroyed innocents'homes and cities, didn't get rid of shia milicias, didn't get the hostages back, suffered too many losses to the israeli public opinion which wants the commenders to be prosecuted, CLAPCLAPCLAPCLAP 

As far as I know the asiatic mind and strategic concepts, China will keep as good relationships with USA until they will be the world leading nation, as long as it will take. When done, China will take back control over Taiwan, as sure as Kansas is a part of USA.
Now, the largest part of the US debt is hold by foreigners, if there is a mistrust in dollar, the US Dollar might not even worth the paper price it's printed over.

LO

Here, in France, southern populations still have some rememberance of the the middle ages crusades at their ancestors led by northern France barons, the first crusades have been led by christians against Cathars christians, which main "sin" was that didn't recognised the roman catholic pope. This to say that the first real crusades were led by so-called christians at other christians far before crusades at Muslims
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathar
Before, there had been wars and slayings against aryanist christians which "sin" was that they believed that Jesus was just a holly man, a prophet, but in no way  "Gods' son"

Don't stay with that all-american point of view, study your challengers' point of view, otherwise, your analyses will be a whole misunderstanding, leading to failures such as the Iraq war results, or deep mistakes such as being an ally of Pakistan which harbours the most anti-american islamist terrorits' nests and collaborated in spreading nuke technology toghether with Kim's Korea and Iran.
I think that you mix everything with some kind of a deeply uninteresting black or white short sighting. That's the point with many average US citizens, your country is continental wide, and most of Us citizens, if able to draw the US map, what I couldn't do, are unable to draw quite a correct world map, what I can do.
It's a local balance policy from Moscow, Shiite Iranians are traditionnal ennemies of the Al Qaeda's sunni muslims which support chechen war at Moscow.
Moscow's attitude is also reacted by the US bases spreading in the southern former empire in order to surround and to aim a grab on the world's main oil fields.

LO

Doubtful, too many US soldiers lives were to be managed...

LO
Now, ask the question: would had been North Korea so eager to get nukes if it hadn't been listed on the "Axis of Evil", watching what are the results of war at Iraq,
would Iran too ?

I still think that the bunch of chimps leading at White House have done the worst job any american presidency has ever done

Please, US citizen, get rid of him as soon as possible

This is a discutable point, don't forget that waters have to flow down the river Jordan to feed up also its eastern bank shore where much Jordan populations lived

The so-called "terrorists" where still called feddayins. In the fronteer-sided kibboutz I did work in, located aside a desertic uncontrolled jordanese area far from any jordanese army position, they did call simply them gangsters because the "terrorist  actions" were mainly sheeps and sometimes crop robberies.
This kibboutz was a "strategic"one, with trenches network and safe shelters because had the jordanese army the will to cut Israel apart, that was the place to launch an attack. Jordan as well as Egypt wanted to make much noise, but, in fact, were not ready for any war. The only serious enemy was Syria with which there were almost daily fighter planes dogfights.
Because at the end of my travel, I saw the movie "Six Days To Glory" showing how  carefully Israel had planned its attacks, I came back home with the feeling that Israel had really wanted that war, some kind of a preventive one, and very suspicious about who were the bad guys in this conflict. Before I started, I was 100% convinced that Israel was the victim.

No, sir, you're being unfair, USSR was quite enough to supply the Arab side with all the weapons it needed. France, as well as GB, was still too much upset by the 1956 Suez Brit-French expeditionnary corp failure against Nasser to side the Arabs by 1967,
and don't forget, France was blamed by the arab world because of the Algerian liberation war.

Stop being that stupid! With this kind of a logic, US Air Forces should blast all muslim districts in british towns because some british born muslim citizens are engaged in terrorist movements acting at USA and that brit muslims generally support rather Bin Ladin than Bush. If you don't agree with that idea of bombing Britain because innocent british citizens should be among the victims and you agree with Israel deeply mad behaviour, I shall conclude either that your are unlogic* or that you are deeply a racist.

The facts are that Israel acts as a terrorist state when destroying all lebanese economic infrastructures and killing lebaneses. When retaliations are far more devastating for a couple of israeli soldiers kidnapped than when israelis civilians are victims of a blind terrorist attack, it means that actual israeli military leaders have lost any sense of measure.
As a result, Israel welds with a deep hate against jews a whole country that was divided , loosing any chance to leave in peace with its neighbours.
There was a time when Israelis could go skying in Lebannon safely in winter time.

A piece of what ? They occupy territories that are not theirs since the 1967 war.
The former palestians authorities have recognised Israel and all jew colonisations in these territories since 1967 are illegal. The facts are that many jews and zionists still dream of a "Great Israel". Watch out, we know what a "Great Germany" dream ded to.

*For me, being unlogic is a deep sign of stupidity

Since the Romans destroyed Jerusalem...
No jew is returning to his "homeland", this so-called homeland has been inhabited with others than jews for two milleniums.
Jews from NY, Paris or Kiev are home where they were born, they are American, French, Ukrainian.  When they go to Israel with Bibles as "property bills", then go and steal lands from Arabs in the occupied territories, they are clearly westen invaders, this is about a half centrury with a military occupation, and occupied populations have the full right to fight occupiers.
Should you pretend to have the right to come back to Europe, settle and steal actual europeans' land because your parents came from Europe, you would simply be welcome with gun shots, and you would deserve them.

L.O.
The french National Geographic Institute (I.G.N) offers now a french territory map and photographic viewer with a much higher resolution than Google Earth or World Wind.
It's called "Geoportail" (="GeoGate")

France 3D flys will be available next Autumn.

Sorry, the oversaturated with succes IGN http://www.geoportail.fr server isn't reachable.  :oops:

French automobile industry is very competitive with 35 hours per week working time

And stop chewing ! 

Chewing time isn't included in a french week working time 

LO

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