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Has it been disabled or is it broken?

looks like a forum designed in 1994

nice to see their names and the remark "ASK US ANYTHING" though

cheers Rob

Rob in your opinion, after they land the first 4 contenders, would they really be able to extract water from the soil, recycle used water, and extract oxygen from water? Food would be produced on Mars? do you think that's realistic?

To me, I hope this thing gets off the ground BUT it could pan out to be the biggest real life horror film of them all

nah and quite honestly seeing these images is far more interesting with the thought that MARS ONE could get off the ground in our life time

this has always been the case throughout history and in the case of Iran what can their civilians do anyway? they did not even vote that President IN, he falsified the elections to stay in power! where do they go from there?

Some members obviously have huge technical know how and quite often this comes out in threads, to newcomers threads littered with hugely technical explanations and arguments can be a put off

but then, better that then the other way around

anymore info on that?

well I clicked on it and it says

  Bad request. The link you followed is incorrect or outdated.

can we have avatars back on now please? is the maintenance done now?

wow have you watched that video? honestly? that is amazing!! most convincing!!

now for the bad news

there is a page on WIKIPEDIA focusing on MARS-ONE but the EDITORS have grave doubts!!!

WHAT THE WIKI EDITORS SAY

EDITOR 1 SAYS "This is not adding up.

The Mars One web site, the associated online discussion forum, and that I have something more than a clue about manned space-flight-- this is either embarrassingly naive or a hoax. It reminds me of Twentieth Century Motor Car Corporation. Slick graphics to capture the imagination, one "name," and no substance.

REPLY FROM EDITOR 2
The concern is that the reporting-- the sources-- are doing just the same. That is they are not applying critical thinking, but and instead relying on the one source. The only primary source is the material found on the Mars One web site. There is little to no analysis involved in those secondary sources.

• A one way trip is not going to happen, for several reasons. One is moral/legal-- manslaughter charges loom. And for that reason, alone, both funding and access will be denied due to the legal liability and moral culpability of the participants.

• Two, by any other name, it is still a suicide mission and so civilian volunteers are likely to be, by default, psychologically unfit for such a mission.

• Technical issues are glossed... if mentioned at all. Robot tractors capable of lifting and then traveling up to twenty miles over unknown terrain carrying the weight of a crewed Dragon capsule?

• Radiation shielding in transit and on the surface?

• The enormous quantities of water and oxygen/hydrogen and food which must be carried and then regularly sent, recovered and transported should they survive to the surface?

• What if a contractor goes out of business and so supply shipment are no longer possible?

• For a reality TV show? There is the indicator that this is about something other than is admitted in the conception.

EDITOR 3 CHIMES IN:
I don't see any legal/moral issues because people pay money to do foolish and dangerous things everyday. For example, many people have died climbing Everest, some of them would have been physically incapable of it, and should never have tried. But, has anyone ever been charged with a criminal offence?

Yes, if Mars is to be colonised, then it stands to reason that many people will die doing so. This is nothing new, and hasn't prevented mankind from making other achievements. You can't say that these people are "psychologically unfit for such a mission" because you are talking about unspecified people. We don't know what colour their hair is, let alone their mental state.

The technical issues aren't mentioned much, because these issues are to be solved by their suppliers. British Airways doesn't need to know how to make aircraft fly, they just buy planes. Also, the weight of a capsule would be far less on Mars, due to gravity being 0.38 of Earth's gravity. Landing people safely on Mars is likely to be far more difficult than moving capsules around.

Shielding out radiation is possible. We already do that in space, on the space station, for example.

They don't plan to resupply Mars. The colony would extract water from the soil, recycle used water, and extract oxygen from water. Food would be produced on Mars.

EDITOR 4 ARGUES:
"Shielding out radiation is possible. We already do that in space, on the space station, for example." Wrong. The ISS is protected mostly by Earth's magnetosphere, which is absent on Mars. Any colonists would need at least 7 meters of soil for protection above their capsules.

EDITOR 3 COMES BACK
Wrong? Not all. As you have said yourself, radiation can be shielded using a layer of soil. There is no shortage of soil on Mars. Danrok
EDITOR 4 CHIDES
Danrok, there is a massive shortage of soil between earth and Mars. That is where you need the shielding. And that shielding is going to be heavy, thick, or otherwise extremely expensive using current technology   READ MORE FROM THE EDITORS ARE THE EDITORS RIGHT?

http://www.tgdaily.com/space-features/6 … al-funding the pods look pretty basic

But I guess basic means less possibility of failure

why not bring them back? are you serious? how about the cost? but on the other hand  It's certain that old people would be a huge drag for other people living there, errrrr yeah that is a startling thought

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