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ant of stargrail

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From: Lauder, Berwickshire, Scotland

Registered: 2004-06-29

Posts: 45

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Re: 360 Gravity Wheel - Power generation by the big 'G' Gravity?

Could a Gravity Wheel and math be this easy?

http://www.stargrail.co.uk]stargrail.co.uk and
http://www.stargrail.com]stargrail.com

On this message board is a poll, please vote.

Currently I am currently costing an axle. Once this has been priced, ordered and here it will be completed.

I will update this board, as well as my website, on my findings.

Ant

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clark

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Registered: 2001-09-20

Posts: 6,374

Re: 360 Gravity Wheel - Power generation by the big 'G' Gravity?

The author has a deep belief in Star Trek through Jesus Christ.

Perhaps it is that easy. But I doubt it.  :laugh:

Palomar

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From: USA

Registered: 2002-05-30

Posts: 9,734

Re: 360 Gravity Wheel - Power generation by the big 'G' Gravity?

*Welcome, Ant!  I read your Profile and was hoping to ask about the "gravity wheel."

I've checked out your link.  Thanks. 

--Cindy

P.S.:  Scotland?  I've always wanted to visit!

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GCNRevenger

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From: Earth

Registered: 2003-10-14

Posts: 6,056

Re: 360 Gravity Wheel - Power generation by the big 'G' Gravity?

You can't use gravity to power anything, its against the laws of thermodynamics.

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JimM

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From: England

Registered: 2004-04-11

Posts: 247

Re: 360 Gravity Wheel - Power generation by the big 'G' Gravity?

You can't use gravity to power anything, its against the laws of thermodynamics.

Darn! My plan to make electricity by building dams and letting the water fall down through turbines to make power (I thought of calling it "Hydro Power") won't work after all.

(Could somebody pass the bad news on to those good people who powered their mills and suchlike with water-wheels for centuries before the Industrial Revolution. please?)

JimM

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From: England

Registered: 2004-04-11

Posts: 247

Re: 360 Gravity Wheel - Power generation by the big 'G' Gravity?

Could a gravity wheel be this easy?

Nope.

It pains me to say this, as these people seem to come from Scotland, but what they are proposing is one of the classical forms of that grand old fallacy, the perpetual motion machine.

I shall refrain from comment on Star Trek and/or Jesus Christ.

GCNRevenger

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From: Earth

Registered: 2003-10-14

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Re: 360 Gravity Wheel - Power generation by the big 'G' Gravity?

Bah you know what I mean, you can't make a gravity-powerd perpetual motion machine or whatnot that will dervie more energy than you input, since it will take more energy to reset the machine for the next run than you get out o fit.

Ah but the dam is not ultimatly powerd by gravity, the dam is powerd by the heat from the sun and the heat from the Earth's uranium and thorium to evaporate water which condenses (rains for you lay-folk like Jim )and then runs through the dam's turbines... heh.

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[i]"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those that do not have it." - George Bernard Shaw[/i]

[i]The glass is at 50% of capacity[/i]

JimM

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From: England

Registered: 2004-04-11

Posts: 247

Re: 360 Gravity Wheel - Power generation by the big 'G' Gravity?

Bah you know what I mean, you can't make a gravity-powerd perpetual motion machine

As you will have seen, I agree 100%

JimM

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From: England

Registered: 2004-04-11

Posts: 247

Re: 360 Gravity Wheel - Power generation by the big 'G' Gravity?

Afterthought.

In the special case of a spinning black hole, you have a potential nearly-permanent gravity power source, if you know what to do and are very careful not to fall in.

GCNRevenger

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From: Earth

Registered: 2003-10-14

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Re: 360 Gravity Wheel - Power generation by the big 'G' Gravity?

Perhaps, but I don't even want to think about how much trouble that would be... black holes will eventually run down too. Fusion power scaled up, such that it can convert plain old regular Hydrogen to Helium, would give us enough energy to last from now to half way to end of the universe...

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[i]"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those that do not have it." - George Bernard Shaw[/i]

[i]The glass is at 50% of capacity[/i]

JimM

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From: England

Registered: 2004-04-11

Posts: 247

Re: 360 Gravity Wheel - Power generation by the big 'G' Gravity?

Perhaps, but I don't even want to think about how much trouble that would be... black holes will eventually run down too.

Of course. I said it would be a potential nearly-permanent gravity power source"

Earthfirst

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From: Phoenix Arizona

Registered: 2002-09-25

Posts: 343

Re: 360 Gravity Wheel - Power generation by the big 'G' Gravity?

Star trek is so yesterday, star gate atlantis is the cool thing now of days.

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ant of stargrail

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From: Lauder, Berwickshire, Scotland

Registered: 2004-06-29

Posts: 45

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Re: 360 Gravity Wheel - Power generation by the big 'G' Gravity?

Star trek is so yesterday, star gate atlantis is the cool thing now of days.

I love the concept.

Think on the guts of a stargate, coiled loops of wire etc. If you can imagine using soon redundant tv technology - coiled loops, I believe that this electron gun technology(TV tube), which is being replaced, in the future will be reversed and become a worm hole entrance. A stargate to time and space.

Irreversable damage has already been done according to the Old Testament. The only way of reversing that is to control time, nice safety protocol or is it Jesus' resurection principle. Do today for tomorrow and yesterday. I would like to interface with a fly on the computer, say in the year 1717 and buzz arround... Butterfly huh!

The Heisenberg principle according to an 'imaginary' Star Trek will be cracked, check out it's transporter technology. Remember Atos from the original Star Trek series?.

Ant

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Mace

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From: California, USA

Registered: 2005-07-17

Posts: 38

Re: 360 Gravity Wheel - Power generation by the big 'G' Gravity?

Never say never. It may be possible someday to gain unlimited energy. I keep thinking of how mattter and energy formed in the formation of the universe. Did they come out of nothing? Perhaps someday we will be able to create our own matter and energy from space itself? who knows? In the long run, even the law of the conservation of energy could be variable.

srmeaney

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Registered: 2005-03-18

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Re: 360 Gravity Wheel - Power generation by the big 'G' Gravity?

We already have that... We've just been keeping it a secret from you.

Gravity is a measure of time. Black holes can be disrupted by dropping a twelve dimensional net on the ten dimensional whirlpool...

Mace

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From: California, USA

Registered: 2005-07-17

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Re: 360 Gravity Wheel - Power generation by the big 'G' Gravity?

We already have that... We've just been keeping it a secret from you.

Gravity is a measure of time. Black holes can be disrupted by dropping a twelve dimensional net on the ten dimensional whirlpool...

Aha!! I knew it! ...and the government keeps the stargate a secret from me also.

Couldn't we just make energy from the dimensional gaps without using the black hole? Seems like a waste.