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#351 2026-02-21 19:18:27
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Budgets: This thread is about Peter Zeihan. He has said China's navy is short range, not able to operate in deep water or far from Chinese shores. If a conflict with China breaks out, position 2 or 3 destroyers near Singapore and blockade shipping to China. That's it. Cut off oil imports to China. Cut off food imports. Cut off agricultural inputs (fertilizer, etc). Chinese civilization will be over in 2 years.
Peter Zeihan: World Order Falling Apart: Trump, Global Chaos & the End Of Chinese Empire
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#352 2026-02-21 19:26:03
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If you're still worried about Purchasing Power Parity, here's a comparison of navy ships: (from Wikipedia)
Russian navy:
13 Ballistic missile submarines
12 Cruise missile submarines
13 Nuclear-powered attack submarines
19 Diesel/electric-powered attack submarines
9 Special-purpose submarines
1 Aircraft carrier (in commission, but not operational)
2 Battlecruisers
2 Cruisers
9 Destroyers
12 Frigates
c. 79 Corvettes
17 Landing ships
50+ Landing craft
5 Patrol ships
c. 60+ Patrol boats (significant numbers of additional offshore patrol vessels/light patrol boats are operated by the Russian Coast Guard, Federal Protective Service, Russian National Guard and other agencies)
43+ Mine countermeasures vessels
18 Special-purpose (intelligence) ships
Numerous other auxiliaries
United States Navy:
Commissioned (USS) – 233
Aircraft carrier – 11
Amphibious assault ship – 9
Amphibious command ship – 2
Amphibious transport dock – 13
Attack submarine – 48
Ballistic missile submarine – 14
Classic frigate – 1
Cruiser – 7 (of 20)
Destroyer – 76
Dock landing ship – 10 (of 12)
Expeditionary mobile base – 4
Guided missile submarine – 4
Littoral Combat Ship – 1
Littoral combat ship – 26 (of 31)
Mine countermeasures ship – 4
Submarine tender – 2
Technical research ship – 1
Non-commissioned (USNS) – 85
Cable ship – 1
Dry cargo ship – 14
Expeditionary fast transport – 12
Expeditionary transfer dock – 2
Fast combat support ship – 2
Fleet ocean tug – 1
High speed transport – 2
Hospital ship – 2
Instrumentation ship – 1 (of 2)
Maritime prepositioning ship – 4
Ocean surveillance ship – 5
Offshore supply vessel – 1
Replenishment oiler – 17
S.A.S.W.S Vessel A – 4
Salvage ship – 2 (of 4)
Survey ship – 7
Vehicle cargo ship – 8 (of 57)
Support (MV, RV – or no prefix) – 66
Barracks ship – 21
Container ship – 5
Dry dock – 2
Fast sea frame – 1
Fuel tanker – 5
Harbor tug – 12
Large harbor tug – 5
Oceanographic research ship – 6
S.A.S.W.S Vessel A – 4
Sea-based X-band Radar – 1
Self Defense Test Ship – 1
Torpedo trials craft – 2
Unclassified miscellaneous – 1
Ready Reserve Force ships (MV, SS, GTS) – 55
Aviation logistics support ship – 2
Crane ship – 4
Vehicle cargo ship – 49 (of 57)
Reserve Fleet ships (USS, USNS) – 26
Cruiser – 13 (of 20)
Dock landing ship – 2 (of 12)
Dry dock – 1
Expeditionary fast transport – 2
Instrumentation ship – 1 (of 2)
Littoral combat ship – 5 (of 31)
Salvage ship – 2 (of 4)
Under construction – 48
Aircraft carrier – 3
Amphibious assault ship – 2
Amphibious transport dock – 2
Attack submarine – 11
Ballistic missile submarine – 1
Destroyer – 11
Expeditionary fast transport – 2
Expeditionary mobile base – 2
Frigate – 1
Littoral combat ship – 1
Replenishment oiler – 5
Survey ship – 1
Towing, salvage and rescue ship – 6
On order – 49
Aircraft carrier – 2
Amphibious assault ship – 1
Amphibious transport dock – 2
Attack submarine – 9
Ballistic missile submarine – 2
Barracks ship – 2
Destroyer – 15
Expeditionary fast transport – 1
Expeditionary medical ship – 3
Frigate – 1
Medium landing ship – 1
Ocean surveillance ship – 2
Replenishment oiler – 4
Towing, salvage and rescue ship – 4
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#353 2026-02-21 20:50:17
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America is much more aquatic than the Russians for good reasons. Are we a Duck or a Swan?
At least we are not a Goose. AKA Flying Carp.
It makes very little sense for the Russians to have a Navy, but they are in love with the idea it seems.
But they are quite the thing for Eurasian/Asian Land Wars.
I think it was always wrong to think that an industrial superpower was a danger in the near Russian area. Per Peter Zeihan, trans and trucks are just not the equal to water transportation, if you can have water transportation.
The British fetish to chase the Russians around and try to get us do so as well, is not suitable to our needs.
You need to consider that it is possible that the aristocrat greens now believe that they can survive a nuclear war between America and a major Asian power. In their infantile dreams they may think that 9/10ths of the human race can be killed off while the hide in their plush bunkers. Then they come out and rule the remnants.
We are not interested in that plan.
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#354 2026-02-22 14:14:15
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1st Fleet - 1947 to 1973 (Central Pacific Ocean; Disestablished at the end of the Viet Nam War)
2nd Fleet - Norfolk, VA (North Atlantic and Arctic Oceans)
3rd Fleet - San Diego, CA (Eastern Pacific Ocean)
4th Fleet - Mayport, FL (Central and South America)
5th Fleet - Manama, Bahrain (Persian Gulf, Red Sea, Arabian Sea)
6th Fleet - Naples, Italy (Mediterranean Sea and Black Sea)
7th Fleet - Yokosuka, Japan (Western Pacific and Indian Ocean)
10th Fleet - Fort Meade, MA (US Cyber Command and Space Operations)
Apart from 10th Fleet, which has no assigned warships to the best of my knowledge, all other commissioned US Navy warships are spread amongst the 6 numbered fleets. 4th Fleet doesn't require much in the way of ocean-going warships, so we could assert with some confidence that 5 fleets must be supplied with warships, support ships, naval aviation support, and logistics ashore.
At any given time, if we have 4 ships of a given class, then only 1 of those 4 ships is ready for immediate contingency use, which includes deployment to a war zone or as a floating staging area for natural disaster relief. Amongst the 76 Arleigh Burke class guided missile destroyers, only 19 of them are available for deployment at any given time. The US Navy says 15 to 20 Arleigh Burkes will be on deployment at any given time, which tracks quite well with my assertion that 4 ships are required to ensure 1 of the 4 is deployed.
AEGIS Combat System equipped Arleigh Burkes are our primary air defense ships for battle groups or task forces because all of our Ticonderoga class guided missile cruisers are retiring, they're the primary anti-submarine warfare ships because we have no frigates, and they're the primary surface strike platform as well. Simple math indicates that only 4 ships per numbered fleet are available for deployment or on deployment at any given time, covering an entire ocean or sea, and sometimes more than one large body of water. This means true combat power is quite limited, especially when these destroyers are tethered to a carrier or amphibious battle group they must defend. Their freedom to operate as independent warships in a destroyer squadron task force ordered to locate and eliminate enemy warships is essentially nonexistent.
We had 670 destroyers and destroyer escorts (frigates) by the end of WWII. Towards the end of the Cold War, we still had a 600 ship Navy. No matter how capable the Arleigh Burke class is, relative to the vastly cheaper and more plentiful Fletcher class destroyers of WWII, or the Perry class guided missile frigates primarily used for sub chasing, it can only ever be in one place at one time. If a modern destroyer is tethered to a carrier battle group, then it's not fulfilling the primary role of a destroyer, which is to find and destroy enemy warships.
We have no modern frigates, so no dedicated submarine hunting ships. We have precious few mine countermeasures ships, all of which are retiring within the next decade. If the Navy's desire is to keep their high capability guided missile destroyers close to a battle group for air defense, then we need to offload the destroyer escort / frigate duties to smaller dedicated sub chasers and mine neutralization ships.
If those Tesla humanoid robots become generally useful supplements for the semi-skilled labor performed by human sailors, then perhaps we can still have a 600 ship Navy without training and paying far greater numbers of sailors. If the robots are capable of assisting with feeding the crew, cleaning the ship, and making minor repairs to engines and weapons, then we don't need any brand new warship designs, merely larger numbers of existing guided missile destroyers, aircraft carriers, and amphibious ships.
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#355 2026-02-24 12:35:52
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Keep in mind that when I study something like this, I do not have 100% trust. I have been stupid before about converting to a line of thinking, it is always possible that I am in danger of stupid again now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77BOh0Pqjfs
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The moderator is from the Indian sub-continent, which is both good and bad potentially. It is good to get thinking from another mixing zone, but it is also possible that bad thinking might be intentionally injected into our cultures. I have not seen that yet, but I am on guard against that possibility.
Seems like a nice guy, but of course the devil could fool me quite easily as well I expect.
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#356 2026-02-27 13:54:15
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This is a cultural item, I guess, and I don't want to start another topic for it, I will put it here. The Cyber-cabs will be a form of transport robot.
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … &FORM=VIRE Quote:
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I am sure there will be denial and cultural resistance/disruption for this.
I expect that if it works on in one part of the USA or one country in the world, it will eventually become almost universal.
It is a curious matter that some kids may never get drivers licenses or learn to drive.
As for you, you will have to see what you care to believe about it and what you eventually get forced to believe.
I think that the old guard is already having some level of allergic level reaction to it.
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#357 2026-02-28 07:01:22
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Void,
When a large swath of society has no longer has jobs, thus no money to go anywhere to do anything, who is the customer base for this wonderful new technology?
Is it people who have typical economic means, who don't have money to buy tens of millions of new cars at the present time?
Is it simply more independently wealthy people who can easily afford to pay their own driver?
AI is already replacing many white collar jobs, apparently many blue collar jobs as well, so who still has money to buy new cars?
We're talking about tens of millions of jobs in the transport and automotive maintenance sectors around the world, about 3 million in the US alone, so this question requires a real answer. Telling them to "learn to code" isn't going to cut it.
I can see rental car agencies and taxi services buying them if the vehicles live up to marketing claims. Rental car agencies no longer purchase many EVs because they cannot resell them at a profit every couple years. The taxi service industry is largely owner-operator-based. Existing electrical power generation infrastructure hasn't kept pace with new AI-based demands placed on our electric grid, which seems like an even larger and more fundamental economics problem.
We're still waiting for Tesla to revolutionize the North American trucking industry with their EV semis.
The very first time a highly motivated software engineer, who is now unemployed, infiltrates the software update system and sends a software modification to all vehicles to crash most of them at the same time, is likely to single-handedly end this entire half-baked concept.
We already know the hacker won't have the money to replace a fleet of tens of millions of vehicles, so do we bankrupt the company who made the autonomous driving software, the insurance company, or the person who paid for the vehicles?
Assuming passengers who were riding in one of these driver-less taxi vehicles at the time of the hack survive their ordeal, will they ever trust them again?
This seems likely to become a self-correcting economics problem. It'll work great until it doesn't, and then it's done.
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#358 2026-02-28 11:16:16
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I see your immune system is active. That is not necessarily a bad thing.
As for my assessment of future events, "I DON'T KNOW" explains it efficiently.
I am elder and retired, and for me it is potential entertainment on my way to my termination of existence in this world.
I already do not drive this world at all, if I ever did.
I will see what happens, until I don't see what happens.
That's about it.
I dipped my toe into some low-level programming before I retired. I was tempted to continue with it as a Hobie, but I anticipated that everyone in the 3rd world would want to make money coding. And I was while employed responsible for the software of my department. So it was less a toy than a stressful task.
I did know that Excel could write macro code, so I figured, coding would eventually make me outdated. I was very correct.
I am along for the ride, until my dirt nap comes.
I hope things will go well, but history says very likely monkeys at the steering wheel will also make some things wrong.
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#359 2026-03-01 09:49:26
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This perhaps continues the recent dialog: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … &FORM=VIRE Quote:
EXCLUSIVE: The Case For Merging Tesla And SpaceX
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So for the moment the merger is being talked about by some, not sure it will happen as suggested.
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One take-away from "Larry" I think is that this business model does not require a reusable Starship to be economically fit. I presume that the 1st Stage needs to be reusable though, like for Falcon 9.
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And I say if the Starship is not reusable you still might have the option of Disposable-Not-Rally. IF the two header tanks were filled with Argon instead of Oxygen and Methane, then if you had a Electric tug, you might tow the expended Starships to a higher orbit to be scrapped, rather than to toss them into the Pacific.
The expended Starships might be converted to space Stations, or perhaps hardware for other things, like perhaps somehow to integrate with data center efforts.
It is a different game to reuse the mass you sent to orbit in orbit. Otherwise, you are dumping ships into the pacific
We may also involve Magdrive or Neumann Drive. These may be practical if you have beamed power in space. We think of beaming power from orbital satellites to a Neumann Drive or Magdrive, but in reality you might be able to beam power up from the surface of the Earth to a Tug that tows Starships from LEO to just below the Van Allen Belt.
Some weather conditions may allow it.
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I would speculate that a pair of ship, one tanker and one light weight expendable might be ideal.
The light weight expendable, might have it's upper part made of lighter materials like Aluminum. So, it would bring a load to LEO, and then a Tanker would refill it, and it could carry data center Satellites to Sun Synchronous and release them. Then a recycle center would overtake the expendable ship and salvage it into useful materials to help maintain the data centers.
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#360 2026-03-11 13:03:06
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https://www.prometheanaction.com/the-mi … h-11-2026/
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Trump moved on three fronts to break Lloyd's insurance blockade — but the bigger story is the Khamenei family money trail leading straight to London, and why Bolton, Carney, and the old imperial order are all standing outside the fence looking in.Susan Kokinda
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I am interested in various notions of what reality is. I am still thinking about it. I will be happy to be corrected.
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#361 2026-04-11 09:58:53
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The reason I am posting this is not to have unfriendly relations with any other members, but because I believe it is an important action to know about no mattery where your loyalties might be: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=739gFSF9Khw
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This is actually a classic pattern that I think I recognize.
A "Faker/Taker" class trying to loot a "Representative/Maker class.
So, a undemocratic aligns with Carbon burning undemocratic entities in some ways such as Russia and emerging economies.
And entities such as (Part) of the USA, align with the attempts to promote representative/productive culture.
I do more or less side with the representative/productive culture action. And I feel that it is more important to produce both Carbon and non-Carbon energy sources.
It may be seen historically that the globalists seem to both oppose Carbon and Nuclear energy for nations with representative governments.
The do support wind and solar with are scientifically/industrially underdeveloped. In fact, I am very enthusiastic about them.
I so support the further development of wind and solar, but it is becoming apparent that the globalist effort to suffocate nations like the USA was to make the world more lootable for an unelected ruling class for globalism.
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I am so far in agreement with much of what is said in this video: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … ORM=VRDGAR
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You can't be serious. Yes, Klaus Schwab is a moron. He said you will own nothing, and be happy. He wants to make everyone a slave, so the elite can get richer while average working people become literal slaves. However, Donald Trump is turning the United States into a dictatorship. No, Trump is not the solution to fight against the "Great Reset". We live in free democratic countries. Neither Klaus Schwab nor Donald Trump care about freedom of working people.
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The way I manage things sometimes is to entertain several theories of what is true. Then I look to find further evidence for any of them.
Most people choose a binary analysis. They pick a team, and until shown otherwise they stick with that team. That makes it harder to receive evidence as what the monkeys on the opposition team present, are first analyzed as false simply because of their source.
So, this is material that I have uncertainty about: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=EX … ORM=WRVORC Quote:
EXPOSED: Trump Names the Hidden War — Britain Has No Cards Left
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The Identity "British" is ambiguous. I am actually favorable to it in more cases than not.
To explain that would be to make this post too large. I will try to simplify it. Commoner power is a preference. Not all common people are suitable to run a railroad.
But in realty power and intelligence will collaborate. To the Extent that the residual of the British and other e empires function as a conduit to bring archaic power from archaic regions of the world, I am against it. Because those archaic remnants of former civilizations are corruptors. It is as if putrid flesh as allowed to infect healthy flesh. Even if this makes money for the "Conduits", it is usually not worth toleration.
Even so, I can appreciate the value of Middle East cultures in some cases. But it is for them to live as they do and to deal with the putrid remnants of extinct cultures in the best manner they can manage to hold the infection at bay.
But if a "Middle Power" finds a way to gain money by opening doors to the west for the infection to spread, that cannot be tolerated. Not at all.
Still, I do not hat the British. Except the daemons who exploit our desire for kindness.
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#365 Yesterday 15:26:03
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This woman is too "pro-Trump". Trump believed attacking Iran would be easy. Taking out Nicolás Maduro from Venezuela was relatively easy, and his Vice President was easy to bribe. He thought Iran was be just as easy. He was wrong, and the US military could have told him so. Of course Iran closed the Strait of Hormuz. Everyone knew they would do that. That was their "trump card" since the late 1970s. And causing regime change in Iran would be more difficult that Afghanistan and Iraq combined. Now Trump is trying to claim "we already won". Well... not so much. Iran still closed the Strait of Hormuz. That is driving up oil prices world wide. Closing the Strait is causing worldwide trade disruptions: natural gas, and nitrogen fertilizer (ammonia and urea).
How familiar are you with history? Are you familiar with the Bronze Age Collapse? There was extensive trade: Egypt, Middle East, what is now Iran and Afghanistan, even what is now Pakistan, what is now Turkey, Greece, even as far as what is now Italy. "Sea Peoples" attacked major cities of major wealthy countries. Because it was coordinated attacks, the military of the day couldn't effectively defend. Raid one wealthy city, sack everything of value, then run away before the military could show up to stop them. Result was the entire interconnected economy collapsed. As one example: cuneiform was a writing system (alphabet, punctuation, etc) used by several languages and cultures. Originally invented by Sumerians or their predecessors the Ubaid. Cuneiform was used for Sumerian, Akkadian, Babylonian, and Assyrian languages. A quick Google showed it was also used for Hittite, Elamite, Hurrian, Urartian, and Old Persian. The collapse was hard, civilization collapsed, people forgot how to read and write. At least in these countries. This could get very bad.
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#366 Yesterday 16:01:59
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You have a right to be concerned Robert, and I am not able to tell you how well this will progress, for good or bad.
But I choose to look, and see if I can understand better.
I have a personal theory that I do not need you to accept. I think that the era we have entered is the compliment of the last one. In these oscillations, many things that were correct are now incorrect. This is part of a seeking process in control to keep the flow of things in the main channel where it needs to be.
Two views of the world can be 1) The world is best if averaged. 2) Parts of the world are leading us into a better future.
As a Canadian it will be almost impossible for you to accept that America could be traveling #2, and so giving a promise that others may do similar. By the way if you don't remember, one of my Grandfathers was Canadian. So, I probably have a "Taint" on me I have to hide from the American redneck/hillbillies. I believe that India may have great promise and am looking for it, but it is a curious situation where they are both older than us and younger than us. But in a similar manner that talent fled west from the spreading degeneracy of the Middle East, it also fled east into India. Two nations similar in that way perhaps, but so much different in other ways. But curiously having some history of representative government.
But if you believe in #1, then the moral thing is to average the world. If someone has success, then they must have stolen it. In such a view, then Europe and perhaps Canada, and others have been tempted to sell out the USA to degenerate entities.
In that view Europe is simply a jealous entity that wants its power back and hates that stupid people like Americans can do so well.
And I am afraid that then that makes Carneys Canada, a Roman/European outpost in a formerly and still partly Eurasian continent.
Now don't get me wrong. I do have a bit of a Pictish instinct harass Romans, but in the end it has to be admitted that the Romans have had a lot to offer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picts
I believe that that is some part of what makes America work, that we have literally blended the two, and even have woven other fabrics into that.
If we allow Europe to rule the world again, exclusively we know that they are totally capable of doing stupid. Look how juvenile the French President has been acting like the world stage is a socker game and that America is on a rival team.
And what is this "Team Canada" thing?
In any case my theory is either right or wrong. If right then we are on an upwelling event that is occurring in North America that is needed to change the world, and to keep it from repeating past errors. If I am wrong, we are probably dammed.
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#367 Yesterday 16:59:11
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Sigh. No, Donald Trump is not leading the world to a better future. And no, the alternative is not "average". I most strenuously disagree with communism. Most government systems work best when moderated. Take the best of all systems available, integrated them into something that works. Capitalism gives individuals incentive to work. Communism does not. As one YouTube video I watched earlier today: Jamestown chose to pool everyone's efforts, everyone ate from the same table. Result was starvation. Only when incentive from one's own labour was restored did Jamestown survive.
It's not a dichotomy of communism vs Trump. Donald Trump is not the solution to anything. The Trump administration is following Nazis from the 1930s. He is undermining government systems. Congress is supposed to be supreme, not the President. Here in Canada we have a similar problem, although it hasn't gone as far. Yet. Under the Canadian Constitution, Parliament is supreme, not the Prime Minister. But each successive Prime Minister has usurped authority from Parliament. It's gotten quite bad. And there are several specific problems that have already manifested: SNC-Lavalin affair, ArriveCan app controversy, restrictions around COVID, and response to the Trucker protest.
The US has several problems. Both major parties have accepted massive donations. A study done by an ivy-league university found voters contacting their Congressman make absolutely no difference. No effect whether a bill passes into law or not. But those who donated $1 million or more Congressman's election campaign have a direct impact. The US is no longer a democracy, it a plutocracy, meaning rule by the rich. Has Donald Trump fixed that? Absolutely not! He just changed which group of billionaires are in control.
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Sigh. No, Donald Trump is not leading the world to a better future.
That is insulting and arrogant. It appoints you as the source of correctness. It is you saying that I am stupid.
Is it possible that the root of political science claims is to produce white collar jobs for people who paid for an education and do not want a real job?
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#369 Yesterday 19:52:04
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Sigh. No, Donald Trump is not leading the world to a better future.
That is insulting and arrogant. It appoints you as the source of correctness. It is you saying that I am stupid.
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The Trump administration is following Nazis from the 1930s.
That is not proven, just claimed by you and some others.
The Europeans messed up 1930. NAZI were cultists and had poor understanding of science.
But I do not hold Northern Europeans eternally guilty. Peoples are placed into temptation and punishment periodically.
Just because 1930 to about 2010 had a pattern which placed the British as the saviors and Germans a satanic, does not mean that the next period of time will read the same.
Had the Europeans and Americans known what we know now they would very likely not follow the NAZI cult.
My posting however is not to convince you to align with my thinking, rather it is to present you with a different view of realty which you are welcome to reject, and I can accept (Until I change my mind).
The flow of events though time are as tricky as relativity. Frame of reference matters.
But you are stubborn, and must have a realty where you are the measure of all things, from your frame of reference.
I am not mad at you but it seems that you cannot understand and so I waste my time.
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#370 Today 04:30:48
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Today from Peter Zeihan. Posted less than an hour before I post this.
YouTube: Trump Goes on a Firing Spree
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#371 Today 08:10:46
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Well, he does not like Trump as president does he.
A major issue is the Iran Nuclear one. It is claimed that the Iranians bragged that they could make 11 nuclear bombs. I think P. Zeihan said that they did not have the ability to make any bombs, or the intentions. That seems strange. I want to know better about that.
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#372 Today 13:29:51
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Benjamin Netanyahu has claimed that Iran is "just weeks" from having a nuclear bomb, and has been saying this for over 33 years. He addressed Israel's Knesset in 1992 as a Member of Parliament. He said it in 1993 at the UN. He said it over and over and over. Just weeks away? For over 33 years? Have you heard the story of the boy who cried wolf?
Iran has accumulated enriched uranium. Iran had the deliberate strategy of accumulating materials, but not finishing the bomb. It would take approximately 6 months for them to finish a bomb. (not "just weeks") Iran did this in the belief that if they did not complete a bomb, then the US would not attack. But Trump attacked anyway. In the attack on February 28, the US killed the current Ayatollah's father, wife, daughter, granddaughter, and son-in-law. The Ayatollah himself was injured. Don't expect him to be amicable or submissive; he'll be angry and out for revenge. Reports state the new Ayatollah is more hard-line than his father. The US attack has just convinced him that his father's strategy didn't work, that Iran must build a nuclear bomb. Not just have materials, but actually complete the bomb.
To quote Princess Leia Organa: "The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."
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