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this ice thing, doesnt seem like it is about foreigners at all.
they are a pretext.
what it is about, is normalizing this ice lawlessness.
what is this ice thing anyways.
trumps dog.
there are limits to how trump can control the us military and police.
but ice.. thats his personal dog.
with ice he can do whatever he wants.
first job,
find some easy victim.
and in every country, it is always easiest to vilify the foreigners.
so he starts with them.
and thereby, normalizing attacking people with his dog.
thats exactly what hitler did when he was rising to power.
there were limits to how he could use the military and police.
due to.. the democratic system that was in place.
so what he did was that he started his own military.
called the ss.
with that military he could do whatever he wanted.
and thats what we are witnessing now.
today it is the foreigners.
tomorrow... it can be anybody.
here is trump,
before the last election.
promising people that if he gets elected,
it will be the last american election.
https://www.mbl.is/frettir/erlent/2024/ … osa_aftur/
how this is not treason is beyond me.
he has also braggingly said he could murder americans on the street, for fun.
and maga would still support him.
words that did not bode well when watching prettis murder.
he also did not respect the outcome of the election he lost in 2020.
he doesnt respect america.
chatgpt's take.
https://chatgpt.com/share/6981f55f-b620 … 34319862f9
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Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America: Comparing crime rates between undocumented immigrants, legal immigrants, and native-born US citizens in Texas
Number of Crimes per 100,000 persons 2012-2018
Violent Crime
US-born citizen: 213.0
Legal immigrant: 185.3
Undocumented immigrant: 96.2
Property Crime
US-born citizen: 165.2
Legal immigrant: 98.2
Undocumented immigrant: 38.5
Drug Violations
US-born citizen: 337.2
Legal immigrant: 235.6
Undocumented immigrant: 136.0
Traffic Violations
US-born citizen: 68.3
Legal immigrant: 86.7
Undocumented immigrant: 38.1
Aw! Legal immigrants have trouble with traffic, eg speeding tickets. Violent crimes are committed by US-born citizens. So perhaps state troopers need to crack down on US-born citizens in Texas.
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Aw! Legal immigrants have trouble with traffic, eg speeding tickets. Violent crimes are committed by US-born citizens. So perhaps state troopers need to crack down on US-born citizens in Texas.
I'm sure you think you're being funny, but your behavior indicates how the policies of people who think the way you do encourages victimization of illegals as well. It's actually repulsive how little regard you have for the lives of the very people you think you're defending.
Most people who are victims of violent crimes are victimized by someone they know and interact with on a daily basis. Since we're talking about illegals here, that would mean other illegals living in America. Multiply your stats for the illegals by about a factor of 10 and that's pretty close to reality. Most of them simply don't report crimes because they don't want to get deported.
If you're an illegal, then you cannot legally obtain a driver's license in the states that follow federal law, and you're definitely not sticking around to file police reports if you run into someone else, so that would be why they have fewer traffic violations. The actual number should be zero because they shouldn't be able to obtain a driver's license.
Fear and Silence: 2025 Insights from Advocates for Immigrant Survivors
Precise numbers on crimes committed by undocumented immigrants against other undocumented immigrants are not officially tracked, largely because a high percentage of these crimes go unreported to law enforcement. Studies and surveys suggest that undocumented immigrants are often reluctant to report crimes due to fear of deportation, resulting in high rates of unreported victimization, particularly in domestic violence and sexual assault cases.
Based on analysis of crime surveys and reports, here is the available data regarding this issue:
Extensive Underreporting: Researchers estimate that only about 11% of crimes committed against undocumented immigrants are reported to the police.
Fear of Deportation: A 2025 survey of immigrant advocates found that 76% reported their clients feared calling the police due to potential deportation, with many choosing to drop cases.
Victimization by Known Offenders: Undocumented immigrants are more likely to be victimized by someone they know, often another undocumented person, which increases the likelihood of silence due to fear of retribution or fear of legal exposure for both parties.
Underreporting Specific Crimes: Domestic violence, sexual assault, and gang violence are consistently cited as the least reported crimes, with studies indicating that up to two-thirds of these incidents may go unreported in these communities.
Survey Findings vs. Reality: While some analyses of the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) suggest that, generally, non-citizens report crimes at rates similar to native-born citizens, this is often disputed by community-level studies showing deep mistrust of law enforcement among the undocumented population.
Key Factors for Non-Reporting:
Fear of Retaliation: 42% of unreported crime victims surveyed (general population) cited fear of reprisal.
Lack of Trust: 70% of undocumented immigrants in a 2013 study reported they were less likely to contact police, even if victims of a crime.
Fear of Discovery: 30% of undocumented immigrants identified fear of deportation as the primary reason for not reporting crimes.
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