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#1 Yesterday 20:16:01
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Data Centers (Including Off World)
If this is redundant then give me instructions and corrections can be made.
This seems to be useful for an introduction: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … 7af08cdd97 Quote:
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I a few weeks ago that "inference Compute" can tolerate space radiation fairly well.
Now I understand that "Training Compute", needs more shelter than that.
https://www.clarifai.com/blog/training-vs-inference/
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Two distinct phases in the AI lifecycle
Inference Compute and Training Compute
Inference Compute and Training Compute are two distinct phases in the AI lifecycle. Training Compute involves feeding labeled examples into an algorithm to learn patterns and relationships, while Inference Compute is when the trained model applies those patterns to new data. Training is typically done offline and involves high-performance GPUs or TPUs, whereas Inference Compute can run on diverse hardware, including servers and edge devices, and is often more resource-intensive due to its continuous operation.
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So inference in orbit is best with lower time latency, I believe I understand, but training can be useful even if on the Moon and/or Mars, if it is sufficiently protected from radiation and if abundant cooling and of course energy are available.
So, the cold of polar craters on the Moon and Ice bodies on Mars, are valuable if they are coupled with massive amounts of energy.
For the Moon orbital power stations probably could beam power to the craters, but surface energy would be good also.
For Mars, solar power satellites could make sense, as you have Phobos and Deimos for raw materials to build them out of. Of course dust storm activity is some degree of problem for Mars, at this time.
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#2 Yesterday 20:19:38
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Re: Data Centers (Including Off World)
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This is certainly an important topic.
It is in a Category called Business Proposals....
This Category is intended for serious proposals and it is NOT intended for the kind of speculation that is encouraged elsewhere in the forum.
The content of this forum should be designed to lead to funding.
The proposal will show how a given investment will lead to a steady return for a number of years.
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#3 Yesterday 20:27:42
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(th) you can move this or clone it somewhere else if you like as I feel that this topic can also be useful to train members to understand the contents of the topic.
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#4 Yesterday 20:44:12
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If you want a possible business play, (th), "TSLA" (Tesla) may be partnered with SpaceX to build the space Data Centers.
If you own Tesla Stock, and SpaceX does an IPO, you might get consideration on getting a favorable opportunity to buy SpaceX IPO stock.
But that may be conditional on having the stock for some time period. I don't know.
Peter Zeihan seems to think that TESLA is worthless. But he also does not seem to be aware, that TESLA is working with Aluminum and Sodium Batteries. P. Zeihan seems to think that they are subject to Lithium scarcity.
So, for these stocks, "Buyer Be Ware". The danger is always actual. But rewards are also possible.
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#5 Yesterday 20:44:12
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For Void .... thank you for picking up on the intent of this Category. This category is for business proposals intended to secure funding.
Your idea for training activity has great merit. Please present your idea to SpaceNut using the Housekeeping topic.
Meanwhile, since you have created this new topic, please think about how you might be able to turn it into something helpful for readers.
Part of the Google Meeting this evening was the question of how we (Admins and members) can change this forum to increase our ability to help humans who would like to create businesses to support the Mars effort on Earth, or to provide goods and services on Mars.
The humans who are going to be doing those things are alive on Earth right now. They live all around the planet.
The Mars Society has a large and comprehensive set of outreach efforts already in motion. We are not currently part of that activity. We are bumping along the runway and not gaining enough momentum to take off.
Your ambitious initiative here may be accidental, because you may have simply not received guidance on the purpose of the Category. You can develop this topic if you are interested and motivated and (above all) have the time !!! to do so.
Otherwise, it will fade from view in 24 hours and no one will ever see it again, unless a random search turns it up, ten years from now.
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#6 Today 10:41:04
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I do not advise other people to invest in Tesla, or if a possible SpaceX, but I need to make the point that some people understand, that Tesla is not just a electric car company, but is expanding well beyond that, and is drifting towards, a partnership with SpaceX and other Elon Musk related companies.
The Data Center plan will be connectable with high capability robotics on the Moon. While having some humans on the Moon is a good plan, I think, most manipulation of objects would be done by such a community of AI guided robots.
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#7 Today 20:04:00
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I will add this attempt: 
I am donating the idea, just maybe it would have value or stimulate a better concept.
I you are on a stony world such as the Moon, then Carbon and Nitrogen are in short supply.
In the diagram I show I show a CO2 Pipe nested insider of low pressure O2 filled chambers.
In a gravitational field, we might rely on natural convection to flow cooled O2 against the CO2 pipe. But to hurry up the heat rejection, using fans to make the flow forced and higher speed.
So, we might consider a "Nested String Of Pearls Radiator Method": 
The thing is the Pearls protect the CO2 Linear Radiator from things like impactors. If a Pearl gets ruptured, then all you lose is some Oxygen, which on a Stony world or most worlds is extremely abundant and almost a waste gas except for things like humans breathing and fire.
Liquid CO2 might be a coolant for Data Centers directly or could cool water using a heat exchanger.
I believe that if Liquid CO2 freezes it may not rupture the pipes. But water very likely could rupture the pipes.
I hope that this will be a helpful tool for Data Centers in Space.
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