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#4001 2025-12-14 07:47:39

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Void just posted about relativistic electrons...
https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 80#p236180

You would probably have read the post anyway, but I would like to point it out as a possible source of great questions for your AI friend!

The article Void cited describes use of electrons as propellant but it does not reveal where the electrons are coming from.

Electrons are NOT created on the space craft, so they must be created somewhere else and (somehow) collected by the spacecraft for use as propellant.  It think this might be a question our readers would find interesting.

When you post answers from your AI Friend, please be sure to include the query.  We can often learn as much from the query as we can from the answer.

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#4002 2025-12-14 10:50:52

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Nice image in https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 86#p236186

Please see if your AI Friend is capable of doing more than just offering hand waving and high level overviews.

We need specific equipment recommendations for Calliban's Dome.

GW Johnson is (currently) thinking about cooling air and removing water by creating an opening from the dome for passage of air to outside radiators. I am worried that precious thermal energy would be lost to the dome interior if that were done.

I think  your illustration of a mechanism inside the dome has the opportunity to avoid loss of thermal energy to Mars.

Please see if your AI friend can recommend specific off-the-shelf products to handle the air inside Calliban's Dome.

Also... please consider going back to Calliban's original sketch of what the floor plan might look like. I think we've allowed ourselves to be distracted by the ideas of tiers of layers of housing.  I know that Calliban introduced that idea, but I don't think we should give up on the Italian Plaza vision that Calliban showed us early on.

If we return to the Italian Plaza vision, then we are creating something that wealthy Martians can inhabit, and working Martians can visit for special occasions.

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#4003 Yesterday 16:13:30

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For SpaceNut re post on lighting: https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 22#p236222

thanks for this helpful addition to the topic.

In the City topic, Gemini suggests a population for Calliban's dome of between 600 and 1200 people at most.  The reason is the amount of green space that Calliban called for in his original layout before he took a side trip to consider dense population.

In today's City post, Gemini recommends a small town atmosphere with an "Amsterdam" feel.

My concept of this is that a town center like this would be attractive to Mars dwellers who might live in small habitats nearby, and who would come to town for the same reasons that rural residents on Earth have ** always ** come to town. 

There would be a few extremely wealthy residents who would live permanently in the town, and most folks of normal means would occupy affordable housing in the vicinity.

There are craters all over Mars, so entrepreneurs would build duplicates of Calliban's dome whenever they see an opportunity, just as we see today on Earth.

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#4004 Yesterday 18:19:23

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For SpaceNut re post on lighting: https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 22#p236222

A follow up is appreciation for your discussion of adaptable lighting.

It is likely residents inside the dome will appreciate the diurnal cycle to be expressed inside the dome, to match the conditions outside on Mars.  The LED ceiling could be adjusted down and potentially the display could be changed to a star field to match what is visible outside the dome at the corresponding moment. 

My understanding (from rare pictures taken of the nighttime sky) is that the sky on Mars is spectacular, and totally free of light pollution.

Potentially that pristine skyscape could be reproduced inside the dome.

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#4005 Yesterday 20:57:08

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For SpaceNut re dome LED lighting powered by solar panels .... https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 30#p236230

If only Louis were here to applaud that idea! 

The cleaning of solar panels on Mars will surely be automated.  There is no reason that I can see for residents to put up with dirty panels.

However, if you (or they) want a starfield overhead, they'll have to allocate the fission energy to provide it.

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