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#1 2025-09-17 10:43:46
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New Food Sources. Precision Fermentation, Cellular, Synthetic
This one has to be big for Mars and for space in general:
https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/bu … -illinois/
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Butter made from carbon tastes like the real thing, gets backing from Bill Gates
chicago
By Tara Molina
Updated on: August 6, 2025 / 10:42 PM CDT / CBS Chicago
OK, they do have some additives:
"It's really just our fat, some water, a little bit of lecithin as an emulsifier, and some natural flavor and color," Beiden-Charles said.
OK, Lecithin, may come from animal or plant products: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lecithin
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Lecithin (/ˈlɛsɪθɪn/ LESS-ith-in; from the Ancient Greek λέκιθος lékithos "yolk") is a generic term to designate any group of yellow-brownish fatty substances occurring in animal and plant tissues which are amphiphilic – they attract both water and fatty substances (and so are both hydrophilic and lipophilic), and are used for smoothing food textures, emulsifying, homogenizing liquid mixtures, and repelling sticking materials.[1][2]
I am going to speculate that you could grow mushrooms on the Fatty substances they create.
So, for Mars if you make and froze a bunch of that, you would have calories and could grow mushrooms, which along with other frozen foods would get you by in an emergency.
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#2 2025-09-17 12:39:11
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#3 2025-09-18 09:49:25
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I thought I might add this: https://undecidedmf.com/why-mushrooms-a … verything/
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Why Mushrooms are Starting to Replace Everything
Matt FerrellBy Matt Ferrell June 24, 2025
Mycelium seems to be able to digest any solid or even liquid hydrocarbon, and post #1 suggests the creation of a butter like hydrocarbon. But of course, flavor is not required. I did mention Mushrooms in post #1 after all.
One thing I have in mind for Mars, is that if you cut sandstone blocks to create an underground vault, you might make arches on the surface of the sandstone blocks, and you might seal the chinks between the stones using mycelium, if you fed the mycelium.
You would probably make the stone structure with the food in the chinks, and then pile regolith on top and then pressurize and heat the insides and add humidity.
I am planning to suggest how to make heat exchangers/storage by a similar process and plastics on the Moon.
Anyway, it seems that we will want to have the fungus among us when we go into space.
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#4 2025-09-19 06:17:08
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Void, that is an excellent find. On Mars, we won't be able to afford thousands of acres of pasture land for cattle. An energy efficient process for manufacturing fats in a compact facility will be essential for survival on Mars.
"Plan and prepare for every possibility, and you will never act. It is nobler to have courage as we stumble into half the things we fear than to analyse every possible obstacle and begin nothing. Great things are achieved by embracing great dangers."
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#5 2025-09-19 08:13:16
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Calliban, Agreed! And Tony Seba and RethinkX indicate that much of our farmland on Earth will go back to wild or feral or (I say, managed feral).
Precision Fermentation, Cellular, Synthetic, will be vastly more efficient it seems.
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#6 Yesterday 09:22:21
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Robots that can pick fruit cause me to wonder about apple orchard/grasslands for land that goes feral.
A sort of savannah: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspen_parkland
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Managed for fruit trees and perhaps something like tall grass prairie.
So, this would be no till, and robots would keep it from becoming overrun with brush. So they could do weeding. Fruits from trees could be harvested by robots in bucket lifts or the equivalent.
The "Grass" could be harvested as well. Possibly some of it subjected to pyrolysis to produce hydrocarbons.
Berry Pickers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygazi3wzCnc
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Berry Picking Robots: Wish Farms is going all in on AI and automation
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They said that 1 robot could do the work of 25 human workers.
A upper body of a humanoid robot on a hydraulic lift might do the fruit picking and the pruning. It could probably work all day and night as it would likely have infrared/low light vision.
While Apples might be a good start, other food bearing trees might be wanted.
A groomed savannah might be a better place to raise children than an inner city.
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#7 Yesterday 11:45:53
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In relation to the previous post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WeNfzqz24U
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Farmers Couldn't Believe This Farm Robot Until They Saw How It Worked - This Is Farming in 2025
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It would be good if we could grow vegetable substitutes on Trees as wall: https://farmfoodfamily.com/vegetables-t … -on-trees/
So, rather than plowing land, perhaps some of these would be substitutes, if you have robots that can reach high into trees and pick the "Vegetables".
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