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#76 2024-09-27 20:37:57

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Anton Petrov again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRgi--01kA0
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We Just Found How Immortal Microbe Deinococcus Radiodurans Survived Outer Space

Anton Petrov
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So, maybe new medicines.
Maybe GMO for Mars that can tolerate periodic drying and also radiation.
Maybe even someday humans with greater tolerance for radiation.

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#77 2024-09-29 09:10:59

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This is of interest: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolo … r-AA1qLEBZ  Quote:

We Finally Know Where Humans and Neanderthals Interbred
Story by Rebecca McPhee • 1w • 2 min read

Image Quote: AA1qLC0H.img?w=534&h=568&m=6

I think I disagree that "Modern Humans came from Africa alone".  It is truer that African Humans evolved with less Neanderthal to a more modern form, and that Eurasians evolved to a modern form by the mixing of somewhat archaic peoples both from Africa and from the Neanderthals.

We should not despise our Neanderthal roots.

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#78 2024-10-05 09:05:41

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This is interesting: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … heart%20of  Quote:

The Vadoma: A Distinct Human Group in Africa with Australopithecine Genetic Roots?
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Eric Dondero, Right-Anthro & Human Origins
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I don't like the term "Archaic" for these people and their ancestors or for the Neanderthals or Devonians or others.

Modern Eurasian humans do not have archaic genes, and neither do the Africans.  If the gene is in us, then it is modern.

There seem to be several interesting adaptations that may be useful in space.  I have previously noted Low Oxygen tolerance in Tibet and the Andes.  Also, there is an adaptation for diving in one people with an enlarged Spleen.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-43823885
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Bajau people 'evolved bigger spleens' for free-diving
19 April 2018

Paul Rincon
Science editor, BBC News website

Some high latitude peoples may have adaptations to low light conditions and perhaps also for snow blindness.  And the low light conditions may also be associated with brain differences for the visual to help see in low light conditions.  The enlarged eyes were used by Neanderthals, Blue eyes may also function better in low light situations, but less well in bright light.  Just on a guess, perhaps some eyelid shapes may help with snow blindness.

So, I am very happy to consider the possibility that in the far future humans in space may have feet that are partially adapted to climbing.

Space humans may end up having any or all of these adaptations.

At first, I think humans in artificial gravity will need 1 g force synthetic gravity.  But I think that ultimately feet adapted for lower gravity could be helpful, once a way could be found to keep people healthy in lower gravity.

The 20th century seems to me to have been a time when certain peoples had a need to consider themselves as the "Best" form of human, I don't think that helped things much at all.

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#79 2024-11-27 17:14:16

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We will see if this article holds up to future analysis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khH8QUL5dFc
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Scientists FINALLY Sequenced the DNA of this Elongated Skull and Rewrite Human History

My low value thoughts:

-Low locations on Earth such as the Black Sea (Which may not have been filled), and the Caspian Sea, may have provided better Oxygen during the ice age, due to thicker atmosphere.  Perhaps the continental sea coasts also had elevated Oxygen due to low sea levels.  In other words atmosphere displaced by the ice caps may have provided extra air for the sea coasts and other low spots.  My guess, (And it is only a guess), is that brains tuned for maximum Oxygen, may not have competed well enough after the ice age ended, and by the way provided a flood.  It seems these large skull people were willing to mingle with smaller skull people.  Perhaps the big brains, died out, or just an exceptional possibility perhaps they exist somewhere still, maybe not on this planet.  I am not saying that they are aliens, rather, likely some unknown type of human.  But the odds of outer space are very low.

If some of the genetics do actually come from the Black Sea area, it does not mean that they were "White", or "Caucasian".  Actually the phrases "Black" and "White" seem to have been recently invented so that we in America and other locations on the planet can be exploited by a false reality.

I have recently been considering the notion of nutrition and intelligence.  For instance some of my supposed ancestors lived in the North of Britain/Ireland.  The diet they had was something they likely tuned to with at least epigenetics and maybe gentics.  I know people where I live used to have something called goiters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goitre
A goitre, or goiter, is a swelling in the neck resulting from an enlarged thyroid gland.[1][2] A goitre can be associated with a thyroid that is not functioning properly.

Worldwide, over 90% of goitre cases are caused by iodine deficiency.[3] The term is from the Latin gutturia, meaning throat. Most goitres are not cancerous (benign), though they may be potentially harmful.

So, the point is that now we have a non-seafood source of Iodine.  I think that in my country the eugenics people seemed to be upset about cretins.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congenita … y_syndrome

I think similar mental deficiencies may have existed in some parts of the USA due to malnourishment, and perhaps parasites contributing to it.

But I think that the point is that it is possible that someone with a smaller brain might outcompete someone with a bigger brain who is malnourished.  I have suggested that the "Long-Big-Skulls" may have had Oxygen deficiency.  But of course I don't know.

Most intellectuals seem to reason that the reason why the human brain has been shrinking is a more efficient brain.  I suppose that could be true, as long as you don't jump to the conclusion that a more efficient brain is a more capable brain.

My theory is that excessive verbal skills developed allow a short-cut mind(s) to replace more capable minds.  They form a hive mind, and so each individual can get by with less intelligence.

 I also speculate that Homo Erectus may have had excessive verbal skills which allow them to do a sort of hive/pack mind.

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#80 2024-11-30 16:50:45

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I like this sort of thing: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … &FORM=VIRE
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This Culture That Came BEFORE the Native Americans Will BLOW Your Mind
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Answers in Genesis
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I am not sure I am 100% comfortable with the wording of the quote.

I do recall that the Vikings, contacted someone on the East Coast or East Canida, and apparently wore out their welcome.
The people who repulsed them had weapons such as spear throwers, which apparently were very effective.  But the people who were met by the Pilgrims did not have those.

At that time Greenland was in a mild climate era and the climate of parts of Greenland was sort of like Norway, so the Vikings decided not to bother with the occupied regions of main North America.

So, in this article, it appears that people from Central Asia entered North America around 500 to 900 AD?
The author said that there were at least 3 settlements of North America before the "Europeans".

That is very surprising.

But I don't claim to be clever, but I like puzzles like this.

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#81 2024-12-01 19:24:47

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One thing that can be considered is with computers and robots, both thoughts and actions are no longer going to be confined to the patterns of humans alone.

This could be good not necessarily bad. 

Human brains will not be only organic, but also Neuralink in nature.

So, the contest between small brained verbal hive minds, and persons with greater autonomous larger brains no longer will be the pattern of humans.

That could be good, because I think that that pattern may have been an archaic inheritance that we have not been able to escape.

The printing press has been said to be a tool of unlocking from a stagnation.

Now of course the internet is said to be the same, even more so, and perhaps affecting most of the human race.

So, we are living in a great unlocking, but of course it removes the guards that held people to a pattern.  So, it is not so surprising that some people get lost in optional lifestyles that may be seeking to return to the stone age.

It is not clear of course what is to become actually.

So, genetics are not as major as they were, unless they are the genetics of being able to adapt and yet not be lost to foolish permissions.

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#82 2024-12-23 17:06:38

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This might be very important: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … ORM=WRVORC
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Mind-Blowing Denisovan Discovery FINALLY Connects to Native Americans
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Hominin Horizons
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The apparent genetic pool in the Amazon area suggests to me that it may be a relic of it.  There has been some thinking that Polynesians may have landed in South America, but maybe it was this instead, or, I suppose both are possible.

North America was considered to be inhospitable to humans due to animals like the Short Faced Bear.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctodus
Image Quote: 330px-ArctodusSimusReconstruct.jpg

It may be that so called Homo Sapiens were able to outcompete Neanderthals and Denisovans, but that does not indicate superiority.  It could indicate some valuable skill, but my notion is that Homo Galactic's, should be looking to include talents that may have been lost by the stupidity of violent competition.

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#83 2025-01-24 11:09:19

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This is an interesting feature of the human mind, that may or may not exist in some individuals:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/ … 6cdf&ei=17
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Aphantasia: What’s Happening In The Brains Of People Who Have No Mind’s Eye?
Story by Laura Simmons • 1w • 3 min read

Probably an important feature.

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#84 2025-01-25 11:59:53

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OK, to start with, "I don't know", "I never knew".

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … d953d0221f  Quote:

Human Remains Found In America Dated 128,000 BP #podcast #grahamhancock #science #history #ancient
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History Drops
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The Innuit had skin boat technology to get to North America, I think actually that cultures have "Blooms" of genius, alternated with "Descent" into stupidity.

The thing is from time-to-time human individuals have a unusual genius.  I feel that under certain circumstances realty can favor the "Blooming" of genius in a population.

I think that shorelines have almost always been very rewarding to so called "Hunter Gatherers".

Various peoples have relatively recently made boats.  The Kells apparently had skin boats and visited Iceland.  The innuit used skin boats and might still.

Natives used boats at least on rivers.

I don't know for sure, but I think shorelines offer rewards.  I could imagine a "Bloom" of the Aboriginals if that is their name, who could have traveled coast lines.  I am going to guess that the interior of the North American continent was not a good place for humans due to predators.

But certain islands off the coast of Ice Age North America, might have been more habitable as these predators would not have been present as much.  The sea level would be much lower at times, so we don't know quite what those places may have been like.

So, for instance I expect that certain islands in the Pacific would have offered more land than they do now.  And coastal boating might have been a thing as it was how to get resources.

So, due to predators like the "Short Faced Bear", perhaps aboriginal peoples did make it to the coast of North America on the pacific, but stayed on or near the coast, and drifted down towards South America.

https://www.sealevelmap.io/
Image Quote: 1-s2.0-S0012825221003767-gr1.jpg?format=1000w

It is my opinion that a Innuit like culture on the pacific coast could easily have developed methods to hunt sea mammals, and that like for the Innuit, winter ice is a good time to get things like seals.  So, if they had adapted up the coast of Asia towards Beringia, I would not be surprised if they could have migrated along the coast in search of sea food.

Image Quote: BearingStraitLandBridge.jpg

Another thing that could have promoted migration could be pressure from other tribes competing for resources.

If they made it to the coast of Alaska, I think they would understand that if they traveled south things might get better.
And even coastlines that were glaciated, might offer winter ice that they could camp on to get things like seals.

Periods of a tribal genius could be prompted by an environment that rewards craftsmanship.  And this environment would give those rewards, but would unsuitable for "Football Hero" types.  Sorry that unfortunately is what I think.

Nature only rewards continuation of pattern.  If an environment favors killing your neighbor to get their stuff, then craftmanship is not rewarded.  But if the environment favors the intelligence of the hand and eye, then craft of materials may trump the eaters of neighbors.

If it were true that the interior of North America was not very safe from predators, and was less rewarding than the coast, I can imagine these people might just keep drifting south, as it would be more rewarding than to invent a new technology to go into the interior.

Later on for some reason the more dangerous animals died off in North America, and other peoples from Asia, maybe Central Asia, moved in after the ice barrier disappeared.  And eventually the Europeans and others.

I am not an expert, and don't pretend to be one, but this seems reasonable to me.

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#85 2025-01-25 13:05:21

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Based on the previous post, I think we can look at "Tribe against Nature", and "Tribe against Tribe".

This then can be inclusive of all gender of a tribe, and will sidetrack trickster words that might be used for exploitation.

"Tribe against Nature", may favor hand and eye, although teaching and collaboration would also need communication between tribe members.

"Tribe against Tribe", more favors human predation on humans, more so using a hive mind of communications, allowing a simplified brain, in my opinion.  If you can kill a craftsman and take his possessions with a word connected hive group, then craftsmanship is not favored.

https://interestingengineering.com/list … inventions
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9 Things You Probably Didn’t Know Were Inuit Inventions
Did you know that first sunglasses were possibly invented by the Inuit?

Published: Jan 12, 2021 11:19 AM EST
Photo of the Author Christopher McFadden
Christopher McFadden

My notions about football and other ball games, is that the ball represents things that you take from other people.

Should be takers or makers?

Of course, the physical fitness is to be admired, and the ability to work together, and conflict between groups is a thing that a "Tribe" needs to be prepaired to cope with, but I of course have much more respect for the "Maker", not the "Taker".

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#86 2025-03-05 11:44:21

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Well.............Wooly Mice: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolo … 18d6&ei=24  Quote:

Woolly mammoths one step closer to de-extinction — thanks to ‘woolly mice’ created by biotech firm
Story by Chris Nesi • 20h • 2 min read

This gives me hope for an Expanded Human Gene pool, eventually.

At this point we appear to have the chance for a rational assessment of what is of value.

It seems possible to me that at least for Neanderthals and Denisovans, some genes can be recovered.

We have to be concerned that along the way things were lost that were of value.  We retain some of it, but that does not mean that every useful thing was conserved.

Narcissism in ruling powers seem to define intelligent, as themselves.  And so, with a bit of sadism, they set up fatal testing to get rid of all the inferiors.

And when they discovered the evidence of the Neanderthals, the seem to have decided as fast as possible that dead people necessarily were inferior.

But nature does not seem to value intelligence, beyond its ability to facilitate a continuation of pattern.  So, a subtractive human process presumes that if you can get people to kill each other the surviving genetics will be the best.  Yes, best at surviving, but we already have Cockroaches.  Taken as far as possible the results of a genetic reduction process a human would become efficient, but less capable, even to the extent of be incompetent, at a civilization.

Additive genetics, if it could be practiced might have a chance of fishing out some skills that the idiots put in the garbage cans.

With expansion into space, additive genetics might be better suppported.

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#87 2025-03-12 11:56:24

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This is a big thing!

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … &FORM=VIRE
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DNA Analysis Reveals the REAL Reason Neanderthals Went Extinct!
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Discovery Future
3.8K views
23 hours ago

So, incompatible blood types made it difficult for Neanderthal females to carry a hybrid baby from Humans.  So, if they peacefully mixed, it would be hard for the Neanderthal genes in hybrids to persist as well.

Modern medicine can fix that problem it seems.  So, if you want to meet aliens, I suggest that you unextinct Neanderthals and expand the gene pool that way.

However, they would be from at least 40,000 years ago, so might not do well with diseases current now, I would guess.

They would not necessarily be stupid but may also need to not be required to compete directly among typical humans now.

Expanding into space, it may be possible to provide a degree of isolation, but not total isolation.

But this effort might be valuable in results as it could be something to communicate with, with a different understanding of reality.

Neanderthals were inbred, so likely it would be better to create hybrids.  There are not going to be that many Neanderthal genomes available.

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For Void ... This topic of yours seems the best fit for the post below.  Please ignore it. It is entered for the record.
SearchTerm:Malaria

https://www.yahoo.com/news/scientists-g … 06316.html

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Scientists make groundbreaking discovery that could end a deadly disease: 'This … will be an invaluable resource'
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Scientists make groundbreaking discovery that could end a deadly disease: 'This … will be an invaluable resource'
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Malaria researchers have just made a breakthrough that could transform how we fight one of the world's deadliest diseases. Scientists at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health have mapped the essential genes of Plasmodium knowlesi, a parasite responsible for malaria in humans. This discovery could open new doors to more effective treatments and help curb drug resistance, a growing challenge in malaria prevention.

With 249 million malaria cases worldwide each year, leading to approximately 608,000 deaths, this discovery is a huge leap forward. P. knowlesi is an emerging public health threat in Southeast Asia, and until now, researchers lacked a complete understanding of the genes necessary for its survival in human blood cells.

Using a cutting-edge genetic approach called transposon mutagenesis, scientists were able to pinpoint which genes are critical for the parasite's growth — providing a road map for new, more effective drugs.

"Emerging drug resistance to the small number of antimalarial drugs is a growing problem," said Manoj Duraisingh, one of the study's lead authors. "This map will be an invaluable resource to help researchers combat one of the leading causes of infectious disease death around the world."

So why is this such a big deal? Because understanding the parasite at the genetic level gives scientists a major advantage in tackling malaria at its source. This knowledge could lead to better drug designs that target weak points in the parasite's genetic code — helping to reduce the risk of resistance before it even begins.

What's more, the study's findings also shed light on another major malaria-causing parasite, Plasmodium vivax, which has been notoriously difficult to study because of its inability to be cultured in lab conditions. By understanding P. knowlesi, researchers are gaining critical insights into P. vivax, bringing them one step closer to better treatments for all forms of malaria.


This discovery is also timely, given that global warming is creating ideal conditions for the spread of malaria. Rising temperatures and shifting rainfall patterns are expanding mosquito habitats, allowing malaria-carrying insects to thrive in new regions. As health experts warn of an increase in mosquito-borne diseases, breakthroughs like this offer hope in the fight against their spread.

As governments and organizations work to combat malaria, scientific advances like this could be game-changers. By understanding the parasite's genetic blueprint, researchers are paving the way for more targeted, effective treatments — bringing us closer to a future when malaria is no longer a major global health threat.

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#89 2025-03-15 09:17:19

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The previous post is about Malaria and is very good to read. (th) posted it.

Here is something about Neanderthal: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … d2c0c54591
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Neandertals Are Actually Much Smarter Than We Thought
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So, I can ask, if the tests by nature that edited much of the Neanderthal out of existence were wise or stupid tests?

For instance currently is is said that Neanderthals may have had blood typing which made it difficult for "Human" mothers to carry a pregnancy to term.

Is that a wise test or stupid randomness?

Over time it may become possible to reassess the value of Neanderthal genetics.  There may be value in some of them, that was discarded by a nature that only values pattern persistence though time, not intelligence.

Elites are constantly defining what is worthy as what they are very proficient at.  Unless they need services that they cannot fulfill.  Then they try to make those other people servile.  It is human nature of course.  They are in many cases likely unaware of what they are doing.  Nature seems to be poorly or not at all aware of its drift though time. 

So, we might consider being aware for nature, if we can be.

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https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … ORM=VRDGAR  Quote:

What the Woolly Mice Mean for the Future of the Mammoth | SXSW 2025
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Den of Geek
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I agree that a functional Mammoth, is likely worth the try.

I would go further, eventually and begin to have a look at Neanderthal and Denisovans at least for immune system reasons.

We assume that our genius elites knew how to eliminate stupid and weak as they defined it.  Or rather by following their desires they displaced the non-adaptive, which is why something like me exists for the moment.

But that sorting method very easily could have left behind important things that may have value.

Also, the minds of these human forms might be a bit different.  Certainly, they Eyes of the Neanderthal were bigger.  If ours are 7, there's were 10 in size.

Some of the reason for the bone structure around the eyes was to protect the structure of the skull with such large eyes.

It seems normal that the anthropologist will tend to consider themself the test standard for what is good.  So, they assumed the Neanderthals were stupid, in part due to their brows.

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#91 2025-03-22 20:22:39

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https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … 4e6105c7d3
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Largest EVER Human DNA Study Just Conducted With Shocking Results!
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Discovery Future
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Two historical methods to try to achieve a "Superman".
1) Gene Reduction:  Get rid of the weaklings and a Superman will emerge.  (Not really).
2) Golden Man: Mix all the genes together, and you will get a Superman.  (I don't think so).

There actually would not even be a definition of a "Superman".  Ask different people and you would likely get different results.

In either case, if you did get what you thought was a superman, then do you clone it?  In that case you might get a "One Trick Pony".  It is unlikely that you could combine all talents into one genome.

I think that time and testing allow genes to merge and distribute.  One location I like for this is near the Caspian Sea, maybe the Black Sea, or some place in India.

As for skin tones, we should use Paler, Average, and Darker.  Black and White and people of color are terms designed to promote conflict, in my opinion.

Black Darker people did not come from Africa and the turn pale, rather average people went to different location and sometimes became paler, or darker.  One is not a sign of superiority.

Europe and India had some similarities in genetic history.  If you lived in Europe, you wore more clothing when you worked in the fields, and if you lived in India, perhaps not the same. 

That is approximately my opinion.

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#92 2025-03-28 13:25:55

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolo … 6d25&ei=12
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Scientists Just Found Proof That Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens Were More Than Neighbors
Story by Melissa Ait Lounis • 2h • 2 min read

This is encouraging.  Frankly I not only think it might be good to bring back Neanderthal genes, but also other types we regard as modern human and divergent.

The whole idea of saying Homo Sapiens, Neanderthal, and Denisovan is wrong, because modern humans are an amalgam of all three.  In that view Homo Sapiens would not be us, but an archaic line, just as Neanderthal and Denisovan are now archaic, except in the genes of living people.

It may be that the larger reason that Neanderthals did not persist as well, was a blood type conflict where a human could not easily carry a part Neanderthal child to term.

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#93 2025-03-29 17:18:13

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I will say maybe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBAqM9es_yk
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Did Ancient Australians Discover South America 20,000 Years Ago?

Mysterious Origins
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I suspect that it is true that civilizations have times of genius "Capable Men" and times when the Idiot "Dominant Man".  So, I consider it quite possible for a people to master navigation like the Polynesians, or Phoenicians.  And then to sink into stupidity if "Dominant Man" gets the upper hand in mating.

It is my opinion or suspicion that female persons sometimes bring a society away from genius, as to cause men to fight gives them a more fit male.  However, the more fit male is "Dominant Man", so stupidity wins and the Stone Age resumes.

I will bet lots of people don't like me saying that.

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#94 2025-04-03 09:58:23

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolo … 7f88&ei=46
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Ancient human fossils reveal a startling twist in evolutionary history
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So, hive mind efficiency could possibly outcompete big brains, using communications, and calorie efficiency.  And at times an environment might favor big brains, if it had enough rewards.

Could there have been someone before us, an "Alien Human"?

Well, they worked very hard to hide their existence, if so.  But some people claim that some stone structures are evidence. 

We don't see their marks on the Moon, so probably they did not get into space, unless the way they think, and their technology was very different than ours.

But I think that sea fairing big, brained genius people could have existed at one time and then died out or are hiding.  Probably big brains are delicious to tiny brained cannibals.

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#95 2025-04-06 11:02:27

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This is interesting: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolo … 0c65&ei=15
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We Could Be Totally Wrong About The Origins Of Humans
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My guess is that humans had episodes of interchange of Genes and Memes.  This was done primarily on a Flat Earth.  Don't get upset, all am saying is that if you poured pancake batter on the surface of the Earths sphere, it would for a time not touch itself as it did with Columbus.

I do believe that Phoenicians, South Pacific, and China, and others prior and later did begin touching on the far side, but Columbus is the one with significant documentation.

Any the flat pancake genome and meme sharing process would have had a center.  Ethiopia, Southeast Europe, and low sea basins may have been places where Far East, Western, and African genes and memes mixed, and that then the mixtures may have sometimes been successful so then they would move out to some edge of the pancake.

An item of interest to me is lands with greater Oxygen availability.  During the Ice Age, people may have lived on Continental Shelf spaces with a slightly thicker atmosphere.  This might have been beneficial to the humans that do not.  With each breath, Oxygen could come easier into the body.  But the depressions like the Caspian Sea basin, could have done similar.  And at times the Black Sea was partially dried up, and even the Mediterranean Sea would have been dried up.

Dogger Land was also to a small degree such a land: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland

These places may have had just a slightly different and increased level of Oxygen availability.

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This is interesting also: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … 666f36e9e1  Quote:

Cave Find Reveals ASTONISHING Evidence Of Neanderthal Lives
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So, some evidence that some traits of some people more so towards the Europeans, may have come more from the Neanderhals.

I think it is ironic that elitest European arrogance, led them to look down on their own ancestors from which they may have inherited good things.

I think that the test of time for the Neanderthal, and many other peoples of the past was insufficient to properly evaluate the total possible value of such ancient peoples.

I think we should consider retesting the old genomes, if we can get a way to do it with decency.

The traits of Neanderthals from 50,000 years ago that filtered through to today, may not be all the best traits that could possibly have been retained.

But of course, caution is also advised, great care to do what is right.  But the human gene pool is considered to be rather narrow, and if humans can expand into space, then greater living space may allow the hosting of a greater extent of variations.

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The idea that humans are Carnivore, is surprising.   The medical community does not prescribe that today.

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … &FORM=VIRE  Quote:

Humans Are Carnivores. But One Fatal Mistake Changed Everything.
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The idea that brain size has become smaller due to farming is something to ponder.  This could suggest that humans have been experiencing brain starvation since the end of the ice ages.


I have not viewed this one yet:
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Humans Are Carnivores. Here's Why
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Max German

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If there is truth in this we may want to find a way to get the nutrition of animals, without having to kill animals.  I would like to get away from killing animals, but am not against eating meat.

There could be a pathway in lab grown meat, but maybe somehow some form of Precision Fermentation could give us food without the problems that come from plants.

I am still confused as to why the meat eating humans were healthier and had bigger brains than the agricultural humans.

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A very unproven theory from me is that plants may have some methods to get nutrients from animals.

A fairly direct way would be for a tree to take a form that birds might like to perch in.  My notion is that bird droppings would be useful to some trees.  So, a stationary or "Planted", life form would solicit assistance from an animated life form such as a bird, or perhaps a bat.  The distribution of seeds from fruits and such also could figure into this.

We are familiar with carnivorous plants as they are so unusual, but animals also distribute nutrients "Upstream" though Feces and Urine.  In the case of the birds, those are combined.  Usually, nutrients wash downstream.  But of course, the wind as well could carry some nutrients upstream.

It is less clear to me how things work with land Herbivores and Carnivores, as relates to land plants.

So, plants are ambivalent about animals perhaps.  The want to discourage being eaten for the most part, but fruits and flowers are attractants, for pollination, seed distribution, and possibly receiving Urine and Feces.

Another distribution of nutrients could be from dead things, blood, and perhaps vomit.  But my speculation is hesitant on how that would be encouraged by plants.  Perhaps in some cases perhaps not.

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https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … c9d2368d92  Quote:

Neanderthal Studies DECIMATED by New Discovery in East Asia
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So, once again what was said as being expert, ain't so after all.

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https://www.siimland.co/my-longevity-routine

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The Surprising Link Between Height and Longevity
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I wonder about pygmy people, what is the story for them.  And will there be an "Ideal Gravity"?  Some of the problem for large people could be inflammations, I speculate.  Presumably from fighting against gravity with a large body.

Some measurements of human psychology I would like to have:
-Size-ism
-Shape-ism
-Sick-ism

A Size-ism that I think exists, is that in business taller, maybe larger men get more promotions, and so then more income.  I am not surprised, because it would probably be instinctive to try to make alliances with men of physical power rather than to make them hostile to your power.

In the animal world, posing as larger than you are is one method to ward off an attack.  So, the Size-ism instinct is probably deeply rooted.

But a negative image of your Shape-ism, would possibly take away from that for the reason that you might be displaying weakness, which can subtract from a strong
"Size-ism" evaluation.
You might get some sympathy points but that does not make you useful to the power centers, it makes you a liability.
Sympathy points go to the children usually.

Sick-ism is the revulsion to illness.  In some bird that flock, a sick bird will be harassed as, it is a possible source of further infections.  It is a bit like some forms of quarantine.

So, these are instincts, and to some degree resemble useful mental illness.  A useful mental illness would be a more instinctive behavior that happens to direct you to do something that promotes the survival of your genes.

Being able to bypass instincts, that is an interesting skill, I expect.  Perhaps it is sometimes called Courage.  It may involve emotions or absence of emotions, but does it sometimes involve a higher level of consciousness?

These concepts for the Greeks as I have read.  The Greeks liked a fit athlete, but not too muscular, so they appreciated moderation, but might have valued a good score for Size-ism, Shape-ism, and Sick-ism.  And they did not particularly admire large penis.

Romans however in their degenerate periods, seem to have had emperors obsessed with a displacement of size-ism.
Men with large penis.

This might be a mental health measurement for a society, I think.

The reason I think it is that penis size was not likely to have any real utility for an emperor seeking to run the affairs of empire.  Having large men around you may give you power but also could be a threat to you if you could not maintain good alliances with them.

So, of course I wonder about American measurements as for "Size-ism" are they rational?

A small part of me thinks that such an obsession with male parts is not rational.  There is an expectation of some kind of large sexual reward, that does not very much exist in realty, I think.

My only concern is that if my leadership is irrational, that matters for the prosperity of my life.

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