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For Calliban re low-light plant growth...
Thanks for the link to the report on the Square Root company and it's innovations...
Our members may be interested in this About snippet I found at the bottom of the report:
About Square Roots:
Square Roots is the leading indoor farming platform, built to accelerate agricultural research for a world facing climate crisis. Food suppliers work with Square Roots to lock-in guaranteed supply, develop differentiated produce, and deliver on sustainability commitments. Research organizations use the Square Roots platform to explore novel means and uses of plant production, for food and beyond. Square Roots was founded by serial technology and impact entrepreneurs Kimbal Musk and Tobias Peggs. For more information, visit www.squarerootsgrow.com.Indoor Farming
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Kimbal James Musk is a South African businessman and restaurateur. He owns The Kitchen Restaurant Group, a collection of restaurants located in Colorado and Chicago. Wikipedia
Born: 1972 (age 52 years), Pretoria, South Africa
Spouse: Christiana Wyly (m. 2018)
Siblings: Tosca Musk, Elon Musk
Education: Queen's University (1995), French Culinary Institute
Parents: Maye Musk, Errol Musk
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? Big news from Big Green ? in 2025, we’ll be bringing even more gardens, grants, and gatherings to communities across the US! Thanks to a transformative gift from @beeple_crap, 100,000 more people will be growing their own food. ?? Beeple has generously donated proceeds from the sale of his incredible artwork, The Tree of Knowledge, to support food justice and conservation efforts across the world, and Big Green is honored to be a beneficiary. We kicked off this summer in Beeple Studios’ backyard, bringing the #BigGreenBus over to Charleston where we collaborated with @chascolibrary to give away hundreds of our Little Green Garden kits! ? But our work together isn’t done, and you can be a part of it, too! For the next 24 hours, Beeple’s limited-edition Tree of Knowledge 3-print series is on sale, with proceeds supporting Big Green. ?? Follow the link in our bio to purchase your print before 10/11 and help fund more gardens in the US! ??
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Kimbal Musk is a chef, restauranteur, and philanthropist. His personal mission is to pursue an America where everyone has access to real food.Kimbal Musk - Schwab Foundation
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Kimbal James Musk is a South African businessman and restaurateur. He owns The Kitchen Restaurant Group, a collection of restaurants located in Colorado and Chicago. Wikipedia
Born: 1972 (age 52 years), Pretoria, South Africa
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For Calliban re post in dusty uranium topic...
https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 20#p227720
Please continue developing your idea.
Can you (somehow) pull power from the stream you've designed, so the fission can sustain the power needed while producing thrust?
A moving ion will itself carry a magnetic field. If that field can (somehow) be harnessed on it's way to the exit, it might move electrons in a wire, and that movement might (somehow) make it's way back to the coils to generate the field you've described.
Can coils along the passage alternate between those for guidance/constraint, and those to capture energy?
As a side note ... this entire dusty uranium idea seems like Orion bombs at the nanoscale level.
If it can be made to work, it would seem a ** whole ** lot more efficient.
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For Calliban re links about methane in Iron on Mars topic...
Thanks for the link from 2015, and the later one from 2021.
The forum has a number of topics that contain the word "methane"...
Your post might fit well in one of those, as well as in the iron topic.
I'm hoping we have a member willing to investigate to see if there are any follow up studies for either of the links you provided.
Without new instruments on the ground at Mars it's difficult to learn more, but the orbiters are still collecting data.
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For Calliban re testing of new FluBB web site...
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For Calliban ...
I followed a link you provided about sulfur, and next to it was an article about possible limits to what any civilization might be able to achieve with technology.
https://www.space.com/lack-of-intellige … ment-limit
I thought of you immediately, because ** I think ** you posted something along these lines recently.
It might have even been the same article, so I'm wondering if you recognize it.
The author poses the interesting hypothesis that as our civilizations grows more complex, with increasing levels of specialization, we may push up against diminishing returns. I hope someone in the active membership will take a look at the article and report on whether it seems to make sense.
One of the arguments the author makes rings a bell from your earlier post ... the author cited the lack of fundamental discoveries after 100 years, following discovery of relativity and quantum mechanics.
The hypothesis would be reset if a brilliant human who may be alive on Earth today makes another discovery of similar magnitude.
In the mean time, the author does appear to concede that radio communication could provide a way for civilizations scattered across the galaxy to get in touch. Humans have been doing SETI in various ways for decades. The author even cites the famous "Wow" signal, whose discoverers are still alive the the community where I live. That was a burst of radio energy in the water hole that the computer equipment in use at the time was unable to save data in sufficient detail to pull out any information that might have been present. The signal might have been caused (and was most probably caused) by a natural process. Great efforts were made to rule out human caused transmission, such as by a satellite that might have wandered into the search field at the time, and nothing was ever found.
Edward Lerner has written a series of novels about what a galactic radio network might look like, and how it might work.
In short, I think there remains a possibility that something might be discovered in this field, at some point.
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For Calliban re Post about steerable stars...
Thanks for the link you provided...
I recognized the author... His bio covers a lot of adventures, but omits his leadership of a local science center.
While he was in town he created a number of articles about science.
The scenario he covers in the article you cited is a bit of a stretch for most folks, but Dr. Sutter has the ability to present concepts like that in a way that I ** think ** a lot of readers would find accessible.
You asked why a civilization would bother moving the entire star (and the planets) when they could just build an O'Neill cylinder and go anywhere. I think that's a reasonable question, but I get the impression no one has found such a civilization on the move.
My own guess is that perhaps such fast moving stars may have encountered one too many other stars in a galactic merger.
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For Calliban re food production from acetate...
RobertDyck has recently returned to one of his themes, which is a bias in favor of "natural" (presumably organic) foods.
You are the person I think of who brought acetate to our attention as a food stock for plants. My recollection is that the research you cited was able to grow plants without using photosynthesis.
I'm hoping you might be willing to become a champion for this idea, so that we can develop a robust competition between the organic foods side of the house, and the industrial scale least cost food production options that may be available.
Is it possible for an entrepreneur to create a useful (salable) product using the method you've reported?
What I'm wondering is if human ingenuity might provide a counter to inflation, by providing healthy food that is free of pesticides at a cost far below traditional open air agriculture.
If current plans hold, the cost of open air agriculture may sky rocket, so an alternative might be welcomed.
Question: Can acetate provide nutrients to plants that can be fed to ruminants?
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For Calliban re http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 46#p228346
Thank you for your endorsement of the initiative that Louis reported! That topic sat idle for quite a while, so it is good to see renewed interest.
Can I encourage you to do a bit more with it? I ask because at the moment, the topic doesn't seem all that helpful to me. It certainly shows where to look on the open Internet, but the topic itself appears not to contain much useful information.
RobertDyck has a fairly firm idea of how he would prepare food for his passengers on Large Ship, but neither kbd512 or GW Johnson have gotten that far with their two counter-rotating habitat vessel concepts. If the matter is of interest, please add content to the topics that might be helpful for both of these gents as they try to plan the space they'll need on their vessels to supplement the habitat rings.
There's going to be a lot going on in both those vessels. They have to maintain the balance of those gigantic wheels while providing for propulsion, navigation, reliable power, radiation protection, waste processing, fresh water and plenty of nourishing food for the passengers and crew.
Your interest in non-RobertDyckian food production is what inspires me to hope you might be willing to add to the collection here in the forum.
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For Calliban re acetate as a nutrient for plants
We have a NewMars member who appears not to recognize acetate as a healthy molecule for plants.
I thought (and hope) that you might be interested in seeing what Google came up with when I asked about the safety of acetate.
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Yes, acetate is considered an acceptable nutrient for plants, as it is a readily recognized and utilized compound by plants, often used as a carrier molecule to deliver other essential nutrients like potassium, calcium, or iron, allowing for faster absorption and improved plant health; particularly when used in foliar applications.
Key points about acetate as a plant nutrient:Natural origin:
Plants naturally produce acetic acid (the compound that forms acetate), making it easily recognizable and absorbed.Nutrient delivery:
Acetate can be used as a carrier molecule to deliver essential minerals like potassium, calcium, and iron directly to the plant.
Root development:
Some studies suggest acetate can promote root development by aiding in auxin production.Improved uptake:
Compared to other chelating agents, acetate can facilitate faster nutrient uptake when applied as a foliar spray.Acetate is also a very important part of signaling compounds (flavonoids, lipochitooligosaccharides, etc.) which promote plant-soi...
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Acetates are derived from acetic acid, a compound made and used by plants. Because plants utilize acetic acid, acetates are something a plant can recognize more efficiently, which is part of the reason the plant more readily absorbs acetates. Acetates form weaker bonds and fewer bonds with a nutrient.
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For Calliban re kbd512 initiative to try to collect solar power in a way that does not involve mirrors...
I am assuming your schedule precludes reading everything published on the forum.
kbd512 has been in a creative mode recently.
His current investigation of how to capture photons in space is leading in interesting directions.
A requirement for capturing useful amount of energy in the open space environment is "ownership" of space.
An example might be a solar energy collection platform 100 kilometers long, and stretching to either side of a central bus 100 meters or so.
This system would require ultra lightweight and ultra strong girders, and these might be made from carbon.
Your skill set includes the ability to design girders for this application, and they could be rendered by persons with 3D Printers, so they can move out of the realm of pure theory into practical evaluation.
Your demonstrated skill with hand tools might extend to delivery of inputs to drawing programs, and if you are interested in venturing into that realm, I would be happy to follow along.
kbd512 recently published a concept for a solar powered vehicle that could generate just under a ton of thrust by heating hydrogen.
The size of that structure was included in at least one of kbd512's recent posts, or It's possible he might respond to a question.
I'm hoping you might be willing to design the frame for that vessel.
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for Calliban re mention of 3D printing in recent post about oil....
Your mention of 3D Printing caught my eye. You included 3D Printing in your post as an example of a technology that might help to reduce consumption of energy,
I think there may be a future for small business offering of 3D Printing. At the moment, we do have a number of entrepreneurs offering 3D Printing services over the Internet, and I've patronized several of them. The prices were reasonable and the service was satisfactory.
One larger company attempted a global effort, and I had a small online shop with them, but they overextended and closed their doors. Meanwhile, corporate use of 3D Printing has reached sizable proportions. I don't know the details of most usage, but do note that there are reported to be rockets made entirely with 3D printing, and there are hints that SpaceX may be using 3D printing for some parts.
Locally, I am talking to a non-profit organization which might get interested in setting up a 3D printing service. They would be charging the cost of materials (ie, filament) plus a small commission to help cover organizational costs. Everything else would be donated. I think this is a business model that might work, because the products are likely to be produced for less that the cost from Amazon, and the products can be personalized easily, which is NOT the case with Amazon. Amazon won't miss the business, nor will China.
I found a web site which appears to offer some insight into the state of play of 3D printing with metal.
https://www.twi-global.com/technical-kn … -use-metal
I saw a hint of an experimental arc ? welding ? 3D printing concept, but don't have anything to go on at this point.
The idea of reducing the capitalist supply chain is going to catch on. You've already reported a motivation, in reduced energy consumption for small runs.
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