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#51 2023-09-09 17:40:15

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Re: Antarctica as a Mars Analogue

Maybe this relates to MTO

Its sometimes trends on social media utubes, facebooks, etc
lidar form a laser remote sensing system

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cw5rGvXPEtA/

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#52 2023-09-13 10:52:23

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Re: Antarctica as a Mars Analogue

The ice under the UK's Halley research station in Antarctica has rapidly increased in speed following the calving of big bergs. The base (currently unoccupied) is in no immediate danger but Sentinel1a can see new rifts in the ice.

https://twitter.com/BBCAmos/status/1701926821976055872


Mars will need robot doctors?


An Australian who fell ill while working at an Antarctic research station is now in a hospital in Australia

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/ap-a … 08616.html

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#53 2023-09-23 03:17:07

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Re: Antarctica as a Mars Analogue

These scientists live like astronauts without leaving Earth

https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/0 … ing-earth/

Around the world, researchers are locked away in simulated space habitats in remote locations


The other polar region a 2012 documentary film about the efforts of nature photographer James Balog and his Extreme Ice Survey (EIS) to publicize the effects of climate change, Greenland and a movie 'Chasing Ice'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC3VTgIPoGU

"CHASING ICE" captures largest glacier calving ever filmed



Korea to build Antarctica's 6th inland station by 2030

https://koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/202 … 40482.html

About 277.4 billion won ($205 million) will be spent by 2027 to construct the 15,000-ton Araon 2, the latest model of the icebreaker research vessel Araon built in 2009.

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#54 2023-10-28 07:03:45

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Re: Antarctica as a Mars Analogue

Ancient landscape discovered beneath East Antarctic Ice Sheet?
https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Anci … t_999.html

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#55 2023-11-01 08:56:52

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A new pilotless plane is ready for testing in Antarctica
https://sciencex.com/wire-news/46022786 … ctica.html

IceCube Observatory creates first map of Milky Way without using electromagnetic waves
https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/IceC … s_999.html

A ‘once every 7.5 million years’ event is currently unfolding in Antarctica: ‘To say unprecedented isn’t strong enough’
https://ca.yahoo.com/news/once-every-7- … 00122.html

internet questions

Before we build a Mars colony, why don't we build a 100% self-sustainable test colony in the Antarctic?
https://space.stackexchange.com/questio … ble-test-c
Asked 8 days ago

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#56 2023-11-01 09:24:49

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Re: Antarctica as a Mars Analogue

For Mars_B4_Moon re Post #55

Thank you for the links in #55, and specifically for the Stack Exchange debate ... The long series of replies concluded with a thoughtful reply from someone who might be associated with the Mars Society.  I thought the entire series was worth reading, with various degrees of understanding reflected in the text.

I am persuaded by the concluding argument, that the extreme conditions of the antarctic are not needed, and the existing desert facilities (around the world) can be enhanced to approach closer and closer to self-sufficiency.

One poster listed off the existing remote outposts which are (presumably) contributing to knowledge suitable for the Mars effort.

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#57 2023-11-23 10:17:12

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the issue of delays and sickness

After Pandemic Hiatus, America's Only Heavy Coast Guard Icebreaker Returning to Antarctica

https://www.military.com/daily-news/202 … ctica.html

The ship will carry a team of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration scientists on board who will survey McMurdo's Winter Quarters Bay and also test a hydroponic garden system to see whether crew members can grow fruits and vegetables aboard the ship, according to Woityra.

With the McMurdo mission canceled last year, the Polar Star crew of 134 deployed instead to the Arctic for a show of American presence in the region, as well as to test communications equipment and conduct training exercises.

The mission was the first time a Coast Guard cutter had traveled north of the Arctic Circle during the winter in nearly 40 years.

To prepare for this year's Antarctica mission, the 46-year old vessel has been in drydock, part of a service-life extension project designed to make it last another decade as the Coast Guard builds the first of three new heavy icebreakers under the Polar Security Cutter program.

Some of the ship's systems are new, and some are refurbished and repurposed from Polar Star's sister vessel, Polar Sea, kept in drydock for donor parts.

This year, when Polar Star suffered a "major casualty" of its emergency generator -- "it spun out of control and basically ate itself," Woityra said -- Polar Sea supplied the replacement, a system that otherwise would have taken 18 months to fabricate.

"We sent it out to be cleaned and refurbished, and now it's good to go," Woityra said.

VT Halter Marine in Pascagoula, Mississippi, was selected to build the first Polar Security Cutter, with construction expected to begin this year. The first of the $745 million, 460-foot vessels is expected to be delivered in 2024.

Meanwhile, Woityra's crew will work to ensure that Polar Star can carry on the McMurdo resupply mission for at least the next three years. It's not an easy task, the commanding officer said, considering the age of the vessel and its parts.

In 2019, Polar Star had a fire onboard during Operation Deep Freeze -- a blaze in the garbage incinerator that took the crew two hours to put out. The incinerator was destroyed, but the crew managed to keep the fire from spreading.

But with many of the systems, including the incinerator, having been upgraded, Woityra said the ship is in better shape "than it's been in a decade."

The crew getting underway is 100% vaccinated against COVID-19 and has been since May. More than half are new to the ship, and fewer than one-third have ever made the trip to Antarctica.

Many of the 42 "non-rates" -- Coast Guard members who have not yet gone to a school for a professional specialty -- postponed applying to school so they could make the trip.

This will be Woityra's fifth journey to Antarctica and, likely, his last.

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#58 2023-11-29 09:08:21

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November 2023 note: This is a revised version of the original website that was first posted – from Antarctica – in 1996.
https://astrobiology.com/2023/11/dale-a … lbums.html
Antarctic Photo Albums

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#59 2023-12-14 04:05:40

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Critical AAD resupply mission to deliver Christmas magic to Casey Station crew
https://www.themercury.com.au/news/tasm … 6cfa94cf13
A crucial Antarctic mission is underway to deliver more than just supplies to Casey Research Station

2013 video Concordia station in Antarctica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbpMa5cXjp8

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#60 2023-12-26 09:51:00

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Re: Antarctica as a Mars Analogue

Maybe not so far away after all

9 passenger airliners that have landed on Antarctica's rugged runways made out of blue ice
https://news.yahoo.com/9-passenger-airl … 03408.html

Every year, hundreds of scientists, athletes, and tourists travel to Antarctica on passenger jetliners.

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#61 2023-12-27 13:45:13

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gossip about ownership and human egos

Rothschild Island named for banking family, not owned by it | Fact check
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac … 884578007/
" They bought an island off the coast of Antarctica."

A black rugged island 39 kilometres (24 mi) long

Some Russo-Germanic-Franco-Russian guy spots the island in the early 1800s but then a French guy arrives over a hundred years later? and France man claims to have first 'discovered' it and this is while the age of Kings and Dynasty coming to an end but a French guy named it after Baron Édouard de Rothschild an aristocrat, French financier and a member of the prominent Rothschild banking family when perhaps the French guy could easily have named it after himself. However perhaps this banker man and influence money invements and and gold and property, it was for a time owned by the Vichy Government, this mansion is now home to the United States Embassy, did he leave some pictures with spy holes in the paintings on the walls, another building linked in Paris right next to it was inhabited by writer James Fenimore Cooper a linked building was once an apartment for Marie-Antoinette?


maybe it could be stranger, it could be ruled by a Turkic dictator?


Unbelievable Facts About Turkmenistan, the Dystopian Dictatorship You Haven't Heard Of
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/unb … rd-of.html

'He took the name for bread. And changed it to the name of his mother.'

renamed the months of the year and the days of the week. After himself


search an old record of climate science continues

Scientists in Antarctica search for oldest ice to research climate change
https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/video/s … te-change/

NSF director: US Antarctic research has national impact
https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/12 … al-impact/

India aims to commission new research station in Antarctica by 2029, says Kiren Rijiju
https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/in … id/1988478

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#62 2023-12-30 18:09:18

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Re: Antarctica as a Mars Analogue

Antarctic Octopus Holds Secrets of Prehistoric Ice Loss in Its Genome
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti … ts-genome/

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#63 2024-02-12 08:22:47

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Re: Antarctica as a Mars Analogue

Could you survive an Antarctic blizzard looking for mud? These scientists had no choice
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/clim … 5f34g.html

Mars is unlike Earth but the Moon is very unlike Mars

Some Analogues examined Cold and dry and places high on top of mountains with lower air pressure and higher isolation from civilizations, an examination of toxic dust Oxidizing surfaces in sandy deserts, the hyper-arid core of the high Atacama desert, Axel Heiberg Island Canada the Canadian ice caves, Movile Cave Romania and the mines of South Africa, icy fumaroles of Mount Erebus, sulphur rich regions hot springs, or mineral deposits of the Rio Tinto region in Spain and the McMurdo dry valleys in Antarctica approaching the dryness of current Mars surface conditions, high balloon flights with UV levels and higher radiation and temperature swings.

NASA's Mars-like habitat where 4 astronaut-like volunteers will live for a year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf0OMzhv9-s

There are also a bunch of other vids on social media like the tik toks

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#64 2024-02-19 08:16:16

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Norwegian Cruise Line passengers claim Antarctica voyage was rerouted mid-trip
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Travel/norwe … =107222296
Passengers took to social media to share their disappointment and frustration.

Luxury £63m cruise ship which took rich tourists on antarctic tours lies abandoned in paradise after accident at sea
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/25586853/ … -paradise/
FOR 24 years, the wreck of a great Antarctic-exploring cruise ship has been left to rot in a Pacific paradise.

video

ESA-sponsored Concordia research stations

researching the effects of long space missions

Isolation in Antarctica |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOVjs_zNNwc
European Space Agency

How can Australia can be a member of the Antarctic Treaty while still making a territorial claim in the region?
https://politics.stackexchange.com/ques … making-a-t

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