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Many of the ISS components were developed by the ESA team members so why no do it is just an amount of funding to get it done.
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China calls for space station commercial cargo proposals
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Vast could launch 1st private space station in 2025
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Microgravity resistance training devices used for astronaut's upper/lower body & back muscle strength training
https://twitter.com/CNSAWatcher/status/ … 6708802562
The Lunar Gateway Station project is expected to play a major role in NASA's Artemis program, after 2024.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/deep-space … stinations
Seems like the 'vast' plan is zero G and then Artificial Gravity.
Vast founded in 2021 by entrepreneur Jed McCaleb with the goal of developing artificial gravity space stations to "expand humanity beyond the solar system".
https://spacenews.com/vast-space-intro/
The first mission to Haven-1, Vast-1, is expected to launch a crew of four astronauts on board of a Crew Dragon spacecraft to the space station for thirty days
Vast faces additional challenges related to transportation and testing.
“The things we are building aren’t road-shippable, so we need access to a seaport or airport for shipping,” McCaleb said. “Likewise, it’s challenging to test our modules without doing it in space – when testing on Earth, we have to contend with Earth’s gravity.”
Still, McCaleb remains committed to creating an artificial-gravity station.
“We still crave new frontiers, with many of us spending our lives anticipating the time when space will be unlocked for us,” McCaleb said in a statement. “By pushing our frontiers and expanding our habitat into the vastness of space, we may actually preserve Earth for thousands of years and generations to come.”
Vast's acquisition of Launcher shows that Jed McCaleb is serious about this space thing.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/02 … n-rockets/
We’re excited to work with Vast to create greater access to space and more opportunities for exploration on the road to making humanity multiplanetary
https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1656239445161709569
website
https://www.vastspace.com/
Announcing the Haven-1 and Vast-1 missions to low-Earth orbit. Launched by SpaceX
https://twitter.com/vast/status/1656238216943632385
Vast, a space habitation technology company, is planning to launch the world’s first commercial space station, Haven-1, into LEO by August 2025
https://twitter.com/payloadspace/status … 7573104641
video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS_afVESUwI
Mapped
https://www.vastspace.com/roadmap
2023-2025 At least six space tug missions
2025 Haven 1
2028 Starship class module
2030's 100 meter spinning stick stations
2040's Proliferated station fleet. Includes rotating wheel stations
Vast attempting to leapfrog industry with the first commercial space station
https://spaceexplored.com/2023/05/12/va … e-station/
Some other discussion on newmars
Thread on Artificial Gravity https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1772 Artificial 1g Gravity on Mars vs in Space https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=7655 Cheep simulation of low gee environment https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=7058 What is the status today of O'Neill's vision today? https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=7451
The Human body on Mars vs Earth
https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=7300 Surface centrifuge for a Mars colony https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=6990 Spinning Space Station https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=2148 Low gravity and colonization. A show stopper? - Any suggestions apart from exercising? https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=406 The affect of lower gravity on humans https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1758
Another Artificial Gravity Topic https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=7136
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A Civilian but a Communist Civilian
China launches a new crew into space, including its first civilian astronaut
https://www.iowapublicradio.org/news-fr … -astronaut
China launches Shenzhou-16 with first civilian to space station. Korean Chinese
https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Chin … n_999.html
A civilian is usually used to describe a person who is not a member of the military or of a police, it is different to 'citizen' a person who is a member of a country and who has rights because of being born there or because of being given rights.
Not an Arab Turk or Saudi like 'Axiom' they picked a Chinese guy for a Private Civilian mission, not a Manchu Tungusic people, not Korean Chinese, not a person who follows foreign Christian Shamanism Captialism or some unexpected background, out of the thousands of civilians that applied they picked a member of the Chinese Communist party.
The Differences Between Communism and Socialism
https://www.thoughtco.com/difference-be … ism-195448
'A List of Current Communist Countries in the World'
https://www.thoughtco.com/communist-cou … ew-1435178
'North Korea, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam, China'
Portugal however is another country run by Socialist policy the Portuguese Socialists land parliamentary majority, many Latin American, East Europe or Africans declared themselves socialist states under some level of socialism definition at some point in their history, in the United Republic of Tanzania Africa it states in Section 1, Article 3 on the status of this East African country "The United Republic is a democratic, secular and socialist state which adheres to multi-party democracy" in the Hindu Nationalist government of India it states "We, the people of India, having solemnly resolved to constitute India into a Sovereign Socialist Secular Democratic Republic and to secure to all its citizens" some people would accuse France of socialism or socialist policy.
Western and Chinese Media are not calling it 'Space Tourism' they are not calling it Private funded spaceflight. China also recently launched another small payload from Jiuquan, a Macau Science Satellite-1 payload with two magnetosphere research satellites for the Macau University of Science and Technology to study the magnetosphere of the Earth near the South Atlantic Anomaly region.
The civilian, he received the B.E. and Ph.D. degrees in aerospace engineering from Beihang University, Beijing, China, in 2009 and 2014, respectively. From 2014 to 2017, he was successively a postdoctoral researcher with the Department of Earth and Space Science and Engineering, York University, Toronto, Ontario, Canada, and the Department of Aerospace Engineering, Ryerson University, Toronto. Since 2017, he has been an Associate Professor with the School of Astronautics, Beihang University. His research interests include spacecraft dynamics, nonlinear control, and estimation theory, with an emphasis on applications to space systems. Gui Haichao, who had previously joined the Chinese Communist Party in July 2020, now the first civilian member of the People's Liberation Army Astronaut Corps. They Founded the Communist Party 101 years ago, critics say Communism is responsible for the Deaths of Millions and Millions others say China's new Communism is something different, a new type of more Free 'Socialism' with Chinese characteristics. Mao attended Yale-In-China and in fact was a writer and editor there after his first paper was closed by authorities. Mao is known for initiating military projects such as the "Two Bombs, One Satellite" project and Project 523 to stop Malaria. His economic policy of Great Leap Forward that aimed to rapidly transform China led to the deadliest famine in history. In the 1980s the Mao 'Gang of Four' were put on trial, a Maoist political faction composed of four Chinese Communist Party (CCP) officials. In 2019, Chinese state media used Gang of Four language and labelled Anson Chan, Martin Lee, Jimmy Lai and Albert Ho as yet another 'Gang of Four of Hong Kong' due to their alleged collusion with foreign forces in relation to the 2019–2020 Hong Kong protests The Chinese Communist party has a Membership of 96 Million people, compared to the population of the USA or Europe it would mean a very large size % of the people would be 'Communist'. In the USA there is also an official Communist Party USA with 5,000 members the CPUSA, also known as the American Communist Party but its seems very fringe and different to China's current party, is a Marxist–Leninist communist party in the United States which was established in 1919 after a split in the Socialist Party of America following the Russian Revolution. J. Edgar Hoover, longtime director of the FBI; and Joseph McCarthy, for whom McCarthyism is named; and other anti-Communists thought and stated that the Communist Party constituted an active conspiracy, was secretive, loyal to a foreign power and whose members assisted Soviet intelligence in the clandestine infiltration of American people and government. I suspect Europe might even unofficially have more socialists or Communist or Leftist Marxist type than China 'officially' does, Russia today says it is no longer part of the USSR and Christian but critics say it lives under an authoritarian dictatorship. In China Chen Duxiu and Li Dazhao were among the first to be inspired by Marxist theory while publicly supporting Leninism and world revolution, the current leader of the China Communist Party is Xi Jinping, its influence is everywhere in China. It should not shock anyone that China picked a Civilian but also a member of the Communist party. Sometimes media will still use the term Cosmonaut for someone trained in Russia or 'Taikonaut' a person who travels in space for the Chinese space program
Chinese language link
http://english.www.gov.cn/news/top_news … 956584.htm
https://www.sohu.com/a/www.sohu.com/a/6 … _100260304
Tiangong is expected to remain in low Earth orbit at an altitude between 400 and 450 kilometres (250 and 280 miles) for at least 10 years.
It is constantly crewed by rotating teams of three astronauts.
China has been effectively excluded from the International Space Station since 2011, when the United States banned NASA from engaging with the country -- pushing Beijing to develop its own orbital outpost.
China's space agency reiterated on Monday it is actively seeking international cooperation in the project.
China launches Shenzhou-16 mission to Chinese space station – state media. Shenzhou-16, or “Divine Vessel”, and its three passengers lifted off.
https://nypost.com/2023/05/30/china-lau … ate-media/
Shenzhou-16 launches with 'first civilian' on board
https://www.dw.com/en/china-shenzhou-16 … a-65767135
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Space x claim to be done to build a space station in 6 months
https://youtu.be/s-XlWP4Q4Ds?si=ZQwCZbURHRczCdR_
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America's Next Space Station Will Be Twice as Big Thanks to SpaceX
As you probably know, there are currently at least four separate teams of companies working with NASA to replace the ISS with one or more new, privately owned and operated space station(s):
Privately held Vast Space and Axiom Space both have plans to build separate, independent space stations in Low Earth Orbit.
Blue Origin, Sierra Space, Boeing, and Redwire have teamed up to build an "Orbital Reef" space station.
And Voyager Space is cooperating with multiple companies and space agencies, including Europe's Airbus (OTC: EADSY), American defense contractor Northrop Grumman (NYSE: NOC), and -- intriguingly -- Hilton Hotels (NYSE: HLT) to build a "Starlab" space station.
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I think words are cheap but hardware isn't. Actions are more credible than words. Let's just say I will believe it when I see it.
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"There is nothing as expensive as a dead crew, especially one dead from a bad management decision"
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White House lays out possible rules for private space stations and more
That would make 3 agencies maybe more that have a part in the space travel game and delivering.
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United Stated Deorbit Vehicle or USDV, a spacecraft NASA plans to develop to handle the final deorbiting of the ISS
Nelson lobbies Congress to fund ISS deorbit vehicle in supplemental spending bill
https://spacenews.com/nelson-lobbies-co … ding-bill/
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