Housekeeping

tahanson43206 · 2021-12-26 10:39:58

For SpaceNut re Posts Repair ...

Today's run to 7800 appears to have gone smoothly ...

Completed Sequence for ID: 7800

Total Command Lines found: 34
Total input Lines in script: 94
Number of ID's processed: 300
Starting Number: 7501
Last Number of Run: 7800
Summary for Web Automation Report for 12-26-2021 at 11:35:58
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:29
Total time of Processing: 02:27:21
Total time Program was Active: 02:29:33

Today is the day ** after ** Santa was (hopefully) going to bring you a sparkly new gmail account.

However, the elves might have gotten their addresses mixed up. They had a lot of folks to take care of.

If the delivery was delayed or misdirected this year, there is always ** next ** year !!!

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tahanson43206 · 2021-12-27 12:45:55

For SpaceNut re Posts Repair ... we seem to have reached 8100 without incident ...

Completed Sequence for ID: 8100

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Number of ID's processed: 300
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Summary for Web Automation Report for 12-27-2021 at 13:44:07
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Total time of Processing: 02:27:18

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tahanson43206 · 2021-12-28 12:27:36

For SpaceNut re Posts Repair ... WBA appears to have reached 8400

Completed Sequence for ID: 8400

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Number of ID's processed: 300
Starting Number: 8101
Last Number of Run: 8400
Summary for Web Automation Report for 12-28-2021 at 13:26:30
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Total time of Processing: 02:24:31

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tahanson43206 · 2021-12-29 14:23:23

For SpaceNut re Posts Repair...

Completed through 8700 ...

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Summary for Web Automation Report for 12-29-2021 at 15:14:37
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Total time of Processing: 02:25:33

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tahanson43206 · 2021-12-30 12:10:39

For SpaceNut ....

Speaking of automation .... WBA just reached another round number!

Completed Sequence for ID: 9000

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Number of ID's processed: 300
Starting Number: 8701
Last Number of Run: 9000
Summary for Web Automation Report for 12-30-2021 at 12:58:14
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:29
Total time of Processing: 02:26:15
Total time Program was Active: 02:53:49
EOJ Msg#1: Successful Run. No Warning Errors.

Soon we'll be in five digits!

Side note: It is really fun seeing current activity on the forum. Much seems (to me at least) to be of high quality.

The new topic by kbd512 has promise of stimulating ideas and contributions by members, while the original is solidly progressing toward exposure to a serious audience.

You are probably aware (but some readers may not) that the National Space Society routinely pays all expenses for speakers it invites to national conferences each year. It is ** that ** opportunity I am hoping to open up for RobertDyck, as he prepares for March 12th.

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SpaceNut · 2021-12-30 18:16:34

You mean we are finally offering something that is not reddit level which some have noted...
I would much rather have more of these technical level talks than the political but its the only way that I can see to get others on the same page is to show we are not that far apart on issues.

tahanson43206 · 2021-12-31 05:34:56

For SpaceNut re forum activity .... I found the Active list extended over into a second page today.

That must have happened before, but it has been a long time. Glad to see it!

This post is reserved for today's Post Repair run, which will start shortly. We are over the nice round number of 9,000, heading to 9,300.

Completed Sequence for ID: 9300

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Summary for Web Automation Report for 12-31-2021 at 12:23:03
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Total time of Processing: 02:25:19

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tahanson43206 · 2022-01-01 11:23:55

For SpaceNut re Posts Repair ... today's run to 9600 seems to have gone smoothly...

Completed Sequence for ID: 9600

Total Command Lines found: 34
Total input Lines in script: 94
Number of ID's processed: 300
Starting Number: 9301
Last Number of Run: 9600
Summary for Web Automation Report for 01-01-2022 at 12:19:48
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:28
Total time of Processing: 02:20:34

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tahanson43206 · 2022-01-01 22:07:19

This is for SpaceNut (primarily but all welcome) ...

My news feed came up with a teaser that might (or might not) have been an advertisement .... not sure

The essence of it was a suggestion ? of using propane as a refrigeration coolant instead of the industry standard gas mixture ...

I've lost track of where we are since freon was banned ...

I'm dropping this item in housekeeping so it reaches you so you can look into it and post it where it belongs if you think it has any merit.

We are definitely going to need refrigeration on Mars for all sorts of reasons, and the idea of using something like propane might make sense.

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tahanson43206 · 2022-01-02 07:48:42

For SpaceNut re Posts Repair ... this post is reserved for results of today's run to 9900...

Completed Sequence for ID: 9900

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Starting Number: 9601
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Summary for Web Automation Report for 01-02-2022 at 12:59:51
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Total time of Processing: 02:22:33

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SpaceNut · 2022-01-02 10:06:51

yes "propane as a refrigeration coolant" can be used that way until you get a leak followed by a spark....

tahanson43206 · 2022-01-02 11:08:21

For SpaceNut re #1861

Thanks for the reminder of why propane might not be a first choice of coolant fluid on Earth.

That problem would certainly NOT exist on Mars. There would be no reason to have refrigeration equipment inside a habitat.

Propane has more energy than methane (per Google) but I have no way of knowing if that makes a difference for cooling purposes.

From Google:

How do you convert methane to propane? - Quora
https://www.quora.com › How-do-you-convert-methan...
Feb 6, 2016 — Propane actually has much higher BTU (heat) per cubic foot (meter, whatever) than methane, so changing it would require adding atoms to the methane molecule.
6 answers
· 5 votes: Hope this helps…?
Is it possible that methane gas is converted into butane ...
1 answer
Nov 13, 2016
Why is methane, rather than propane, distributed on ...
4 answers
Aug 12, 2016
How can we change methane gas into butane gas ...
2 answers
Dec 9, 2018
What are the uses of propane, butane and methane ...
2 answers
Feb 10, 2017
More results from www.quora.com

It would take more energy to make propane from methane on Mars, and it takes energy to make Methane.

If there is a topic where this discussion makes more sense and would fit in better, I'd appreciate your suggesting it.

Details to be explored are:

Compare refrigerant coolants for:

1) Effectiveness
2) Risks (fire, poisoning, etc)
3) Costs to manufacture
4) Risks of leaks (eg, Hydrogen is most difficult to keep in a pressurized container)
5) ? other ?

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SpaceNut · 2022-01-02 12:08:31

It allows for the outside temperatures to not free the liquid in the loop when stagnant and not moving but the heat exchange would need to be decoupled with a different media for the actual cooling with in the habitat areas. So the box that contains the exchanger will need to be well insulated and heated to keep the other liquid from freezing if it does not flow as a result of cooling need.

tahanson43206 · 2022-01-03 12:13:21

For SpaceNut re #1063 ...

Thanks for introducing (or perhaps re-introducing) the possibility that habitats on Mars might need cooling. I would imagine the cold of Mars will have such an influence that the only modification inside the habitats is going to be heating.

On the ** other ** hand, head producing equipment like reactors will need active cooling, even if the ultimate destination of the thermal energy is passive radiation devices (either heating the atmosphere or radiating to space).

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WBA appears to have reached 10,200 without incident.

Completed Sequence for ID: 10200

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Summary for Web Automation Report for 01-03-2022 at 13:11:54
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Total time of Processing: 02:22:57

This is for SpaceNut ... I'm expecting that no one else reads Housekeeping, and this is added to a post that is going out of the Active list

Below is an essay from The Guardian that shows how close the US is to a second Civil War...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/next-us-civi … 12433.html

Stephen Marche
Tue, January 4, 2022 5:00 AM
Nobody wants what’s coming, so nobody wants to see what’s coming.
On the eve of the first civil war, the most intelligent, the most informed, the most dedicated people in the United States could not see it coming. Even when Confederate soldiers began their bombardment of Fort Sumter, nobody believed that conflict was inevitable. The north was so unprepared for the war they had no weapons.

Does the country have the humility to acknowledge that its old orders no longer work? Does it have the courage to begin again? As it managed so spectacularly at the birth of its nationhood, the United States requires the boldness to invent a new politics for a new era. It is entirely possible that it might do so. America is, after all, a country devoted to reinvention.
Once again, as before, the hope for America is Americans. But it is time to face what the Americans of the 1850s found so difficult to face: The system is broken, all along the line. The situation is clear and the choice is basic: reinvention or fall.

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tahanson43206 · 2022-01-04 07:54:12

For SpaceNut re Posts Repair initiative...

This post is reserved for updates on a planned run to 10,500.

FYI ... I added updates to post:
#1864 Yesterday 14:13:21

The run to 10,500 will be reported shortly ... in the mean time, here is a bit of advertising that Amazon thought I might find interesting:

HeatTrak HR10-30 Residential Snow-Melting Stair Mat, 10 Inch by 30 Inch, 120 Volt
Visit the HeatTrak Store
4.6 out of 5 stars 397 ratings
Price: $89.95
Get $50 off instantly: Pay $39.95 upon approval for the Amazon Rewards Visa Card. No annual fee.
Size: 10in x 30in
10in x 30in
$89.95

10in x 48in
$119.95
Snow-melting stair mat for residential use; measures 10 x 30 inches
Can be used independently or interconnected to other stair or walkway mats
Made of customized thermoplastic material
Melts 2 inches of snow per hour; designed to be left outside for the entire winter season
Requires 120-volt power unit (sold separately)

Those prices are probably reasonable, but I will have to pass up the opportunity this year.

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tahanson43206 · 2022-01-04 13:13:46

This is primarily for SpaceNut ... all others welcome

SpaceNut .... I'm thinking ahead to a possible discussion of propulsion
I was curious to see what topics already exist with "propulsion" in the topic title

The list below is from the FluxBB search output:

Index» Search» Topics with posts containing 'propulsion'
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Search results
Topic Forum Replies Last post
A revival of interest in Nuclear Thermal Propulsion? by Oldfart1939 [ 1 2 3 ]
Interplanetary transportation 57 2021-12-18 07:34:39 by Mars_B4_Moon
Nuclear Ion Propulsion by Antius [ 1 2 ]
Interplanetary transportation 28 2021-12-11 11:52:35 by Mars_B4_Moon
NASA funds Direct Drive Fusion Propulsion by Tom Kalbfus
Interplanetary transportation 3 2021-10-03 12:45:52 by tahanson43206
A new propellant(s) for Mass Driver propulsion methods. by Void
Interplanetary transportation 6 2021-09-06 18:50:40 by Void
Fusion propulsion crowdfunding by Rusakov
Science, Technology, and Astronomy 9 2021-02-22 14:52:18 by tahanson43206
Best propulsion for a long range rover by Quaoar [ 1 2 3 ]
Planetary transportation 68 2020-08-09 00:19:28 by kbd512
Next Gen. 21st century propulsion systems... by Carlg1964
Interplanetary transportation 7 2020-07-11 11:35:02 by GW Johnson
Breakthrough In-Space Propulsion for Affordable Mars Missions by kbd512 [ 1 2 3 ]
Interplanetary transportation 63 2020-06-28 18:15:02 by SpaceNut
Helical Particle Relativity Momentum Transfer Propulsion by tahanson43206
Interplanetary transportation 20 2019-10-19 03:43:09 by Terraformer
Best RCS propulsion for NTR spaceship by Quaoar
Interplanetary transportation 15 2019-06-11 21:33:47 by SpaceNut
Ion Neutralization Propulsion by JoshNH4H
Interplanetary transportation 15 2018-10-31 07:40:47 by tahanson43206
Beamed propulsion imminent. by RGClark
Interplanetary transportation 3 2018-07-27 20:42:10 by SpaceNut
Zubrin Introduces The Dipole Drive For Space Propulsion: Video May 29 by EdwardHeisler
Not So Free Chat 2 2018-06-04 19:53:59 by SpaceNut
Advanced Electric Propulsion System successfullu ttested. by Oldfart1939 [ 1 2 ]
Interplanetary transportation 36 2017-07-29 13:16:58 by RobertDyck
The Impossible Propulsion Drive Is Heading to Space by Tom Kalbfus
Interplanetary transportation 5 2016-12-09 11:51:07 by Tom Kalbfus
Ion Electrospray Propulsion System for CubeSats by Void
Interplanetary transportation 12 2014-10-13 18:51:28 by SpaceNut
Neutral Particle Beam Propulsion by Terraformer
Interplanetary transportation 3 2014-08-30 09:46:04 by GW Johnson
Sodium Vapour Thermal Propulsion by Terraformer
Interplanetary transportation 6 2014-05-03 14:16:57 by JoshNH4H
Stratospheric Beamed Propulsion by Terraformer
Interplanetary transportation 5 2014-04-29 17:35:44 by JoshNH4H
Beamed Propulsion Trajectory by JoshNH4H [ 1 2 ]
Interplanetary transportation 40 2013-11-26 10:06:44 by JoshNH4H
Paraffin, propulsion and other uses, crash-landing it. by Void
Interplanetary transportation 17 2013-11-24 14:06:50 by JoshNH4H
Asteroid mining / Mass for propulsion & structures. by Void
Interplanetary transportation 6 2013-04-09 03:19:13 by Void
The use of filler mass in propulsion. Could it help? by Void
Science, Technology, and Astronomy 1 2012-07-18 09:33:03 by orionblade
Nuclear Pulse Propulsion starship. by Rune
Interplanetary transportation 14 2012-06-04 09:40:08 by GW Johnson
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tahanson43206 · 2022-01-05 06:46:11

For SpaceNut re Post Repair initiative ... this post is reserved for statistics for a run to 10800

Completed Sequence for ID: 10800

Total Command Lines found: 34
Total input Lines in script: 94
Number of ID's processed: 300
Starting Number: 10501
Last Number of Run: 10800
Summary for Web Automation Report for 01-05-2022 at 13:07:03
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:29
Total time of Processing: 02:24:47

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tahanson43206 · 2022-01-05 10:32:24

For SpaceNut ... this is a special request ....

GW Johnson is considering my inquiry about creating seminars on subjects of possible interest to NewMars members, and to the outside world as well.

In support of this idea, would you be willing to set up a new topic: NewMars Seminars in the Meta index level?

The purpose of the new topic would be to publicize online seminar videos we would create using the new Pro Zoom service.

I have confirmed that the videos that Executive Directory James Burk provided to you can be imported to movie making/editing software.

An opening seminar under consideration would be on use of the Spreadsheet Software created by GW Johnson to calculate fuel requirements for trips to Mars.

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tahanson43206 · 2022-01-06 11:40:26

For SpaceNut re #1868 ... as an update, I have confirmed that Corel Video Studio still works on an ancient Windows XP instance. In the next day or so, I'll attempt to import one of the Zoom recordings to see if I can make a YouTube video out of a short sequence.

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Total time of Processing: 01:37:16

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tahanson43206 · 2022-01-06 12:49:51

For SpaceNut .... are you in the path of this?

A swath of the East Coast was bracing Thursday for the second major snowstorm in five days while blinding snow, high winds and below-zero temperatures rolled across much of the nation's northern tier.
AccuWeather Senior Meteorologist Joe Lundberg said a storm targeting much of the East should develop into the first bomb cyclone of 2022. A bomb cyclone is defined as a storm that’s central pressure plummets within 24 hours. The storm could whip up strong winds, pull in more moisture and drive higher snow totals as it heads toward New England, he said.

If you are, best wishes for warm air inside the house.

Remember, just a kilometer down, temperatures are (said to be) toasty warm!

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tahanson43206 · 2022-01-07 10:27:05

For SpaceNut primarily ... all others welcome ...

Removed link due to failure to work due to failure to understand procedure.

Please see if you can pull up this spreadsheet.

I'm attempting to relearn how to use Dropbox to share files.

The immediate goal is to allow a file created by GW Johnson to be viewed and downloaded by the public, but not edited or deleted.

There is a Windows version of the file as well, for those who do not have the free Open Office software installed.

Open Office is free, and it runs on all operating systems.

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tahanson43206 · 2022-01-07 10:30:47

This is (only) for SpaceNut ... still hoping you can spare a minute or two to think about creating a NewMars Seminars topic in the Meta Index level.

I don't yet have a firm plan to create a seminar that would go into this folder, but there appears to be some interest.

A seminar is different from a YouTube educational video, because students interact with the instructor during a learning activity.

My concept is to make source files (such as the spreadsheet referenced in the previous post) available to the public, so they can work with the spreadsheet while playing the video.

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tahanson43206 · 2022-01-07 10:38:28

This is for anyone .... I am attempting to relearn how to share files using Dropbox.

Link removed due to failure to understand procedure.

The link above is ** supposed ** to allow you (anyone on Earth with internet access) to see/view the file created by GW Johnson to perform orbit calculations.

I'd appreciate some feedback from (anyone) ... does the link work? Can you view/download the file? Can you edit or delete the file?

Thanks!

Working possible NewMars Seminar idea ...

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tahanson43206 · 2022-01-07 11:50:54

For SpaceNut re Posts Repair ...

Completed Sequence for ID: 11400

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Summary for Web Automation Report for 01-07-2022 at 12:48:27
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Total time of Processing: 02:24:11

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tahanson43206 · 2022-01-07 20:21:24

For SpaceNut re work setbacks ...

Sorry to hear of the problems you've encountered with co-workers, and hope you are able to recover fully soon.

***
Thanks for taking the time to note our progress in cleaning up old posts. I can see the results happening in real time, when I watch the screen after launching a run. The bandits are shown at first, then magic happens, the upload occurs, and the repaired post is shown on the screen, before the program goes on to the next post.

We still have thousands of posts to go, but with each day, we take a small set of bandits out of circulation.

I like the number you decided upon. It is enough so we can see progress, but it usually finishes before Noon local time, which is convenent.

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