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#301 2020-08-14 17:48:42

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SpaceX's next astronaut mission for NASA has been pushed back, with a launch 'no earlier' than late October

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The mission, called Crew-1, will ferry four astronauts to the space station and back: Victor Glover, Shannon Walker, Mike Hopkins, and Soichi Noguchi.

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#302 2020-08-15 10:28:08

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What little I could find indicated the date was pushed back to better match up with the scheduled crew size on ISS. 

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#303 2020-08-27 18:32:18

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Boeing plans second Starliner test flight in December or January

Hopefully the computer clock code has been fixed....

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#304 2020-09-05 19:44:15

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Boeing's Starliner makes progress ahead of flight test with astronauts

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Teams from Boeing are well into final assembly of the crew and service modules that will fly OFT-2 to the space station inside of the company's Commercial Crew and Cargo Processing Facility (C3PF) at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. OFT-2 will fly a new, reusable Starliner crew module providing additional on-orbit experience for the operational teams prior to flying missions with astronauts. For Boeing's Commercial Crew missions, the Starliner spacecraft will launch atop a United Launch Alliance Atlas V rocket.

With the majority of assembly complete, recent progress is focused on the NASA docking system re-entry cover, which was added to the design for additional protection of the system. The team also has completed the installation of the Starliner propellant heater, thermal protection system tiles and the air bags that will be used when the spacecraft touches down for landing. As final production activities continue to progress, the crew module recently entered acceptance testing, which will prove out the systems on the spacecraft before it's mated with its service module

come on, only 75% of 80 action items after first flight completed?

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#305 2020-10-11 17:08:31

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Pushing back again NASA delays commercial crew mission to study Falcon 9 engine issue to the first half of November to evaluate off-nominal behavior of Falcon 9 first stage engine gas generators. Described in the unmanned launch as an “unexpected pressure rise in the turbomachinery gas generator."
Since there is no difference in an unmanned rocket and the ones being used for manned flight they are playing it with extreme caution.

On the note of Boeings Starliner the Boeing astronaut Chris Ferguson withdraws from Starliner test flight
Simular fear since its not flown all that many times....

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#306 2020-11-08 18:46:46

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#307 2020-11-12 08:21:52

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According to today's "Daily Launch" (AIAA's email newsletter):  (1) Spacex Falcon-9/crew-Dragon system has been officially "man-rated" by NASA,  (2) we are "go" for the Crew-1 commercial crew delivery mission to attempt launch this Saturday,  and (3) Boeing's "Starliner" unmanned demo test flight has now been pushed back into 2021 at the earliest,  for the same sort of software issues apparently still unresolved from the first attempt at this flight.

Hmmmm!  Who is demonstrably doing better at this spaceflight stuff,  "old space" or "new space"?

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#308 2020-11-12 20:05:45

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The space x capsule while its carrying men and woman to orbit I would still call it experimental as we have not had the flight count to know enough about its capability but its a step in the right direction.
Its to bad that old space is about getting cash and less about results for less.

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#309 2020-11-14 10:14:39

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Weather pushes the Saturday launch to Sunday.  Best wishes. 

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#310 2020-11-14 15:30:06

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You'll notice I put "man-rated" in quotes.  There is a difference between what can be demanded in a project or program,  and what it takes to have real confidence. 

Real confidence requires a long history.  It's chicken-and-egg,  you cannot demand that history up-front before it is ever made,  you have to team up with them,  share the risk with them,  and allow them to actually make that history.

GW

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#311 2020-11-15 19:03:11

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Successful Crew-1 launch,  successful booster landing on drone ship.  Congrats to Spacex.  Well done!

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#312 2020-11-15 20:33:12

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Good to hear https://www.spacex.com/launches/

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Crew Dragon Resilience (Dragon C207)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crew_Dragon_Resilience

Roughly nine minutes after the launch, the first stage of the rocket returned for a landing on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean, a regular occurrence now on almost all SpaceX missions.

The second stage of the rocket continued to boost the capsule higher into orbit, where it will now take more than a day to reach the ISS, arriving tomorrow, Monday, November 16 at 11 P.M. Eastern Time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Crew-1

Crew-1 is the first of six scheduled operational missions for NASA designed to take four astronauts at a time on long-duration stays to the space station.

Once the four astronauts on Crew-1 arrive at the ISS they will remain on board for about 180 days, performing experiments and research before returning to Earth in June 2021.

Here is the busy Space x flight schedule
https://www.spacelaunchschedule.com/spa … -schedule/


Tentative schedule for manned flights onboard the crewed Dragon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Dragon_2

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#313 2020-11-15 20:46:43

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For GW Johnson and SpaceNut ... thanks for updates re Crew Launch.

The SpaceX schedule and Wikipedia page are interesting.. I was glad to see several Falcon Heavy flights are in the mix.

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#314 2020-11-21 13:17:47

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I see that they very nearly lost the booster from the Crew-1 commercial mission.  One landing leg seems to have slid off the side of the ship a little.  They managed to catch it and tie it down.  Brought it back to port sitting on the deck with a very noticeable lean.  The news article with those photos also mentioned "rough seas",  so the problem is NOT surprising at all.

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