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tahanson43206

Moderator

Registered: 2018-04-27

Posts: 19,446

Re: Housekeeping

For SpaceNut re Processing of Spam ID's

Searchterm:IDUpdates Schedule of Updates of NewMars Spam ID's
Searchterm:ID Updates

As of this morning, there were 16482 ID's in the New Mars database. (Revised total is 16659 as of 2021/01/16)
The current Sol is 588, and there are 668 sols in the next Martian year.  748 sols is enough time to examine all 16482 ID's.
748 sols is equivalent to 770+ Sidereal Earth Days, or 768+ standard Earth days, per www.kylesconverter.com.
16482 / 768 is 21+, so an Earth Day ration of 22 ID's would complete the review before New Years Day of Mars Year 36.
22 ID's per day should be manageable.  I'll try to review 22 ID's today, to see what that feels like.
One benefit of this process would be the opportunity to visit members on an individual basis.
By "members" in this case, I mean anyone who has posted at least one message that was not spam, as evaluated by the forum Administrator at the time.
I'm guessing there might be as many as 600 "members" by that definition.
At the end of this process, all Member ID's with sort characteristics less than "T" will have been collected at the top of the User List in default display mode.
Edit#1: SpaceNut .... there is no need for you to unban any of the ID's I'm working on.  We now have more than enough ID's available for new members who may be nominated for membership in the forum.  I have set up a schedule to try to "fix" 22 ID's per day for the next 768 Earth days.  During that time, there will be opportunities for existing members to look for and to nominate persons who can help to move projects forward.
Edit#2: SpaceNut ... there is no need for you to ban any more of the Spam Id's ... I'll be able to clean them quickly if they occur.
It is not necessary to ban them, because the ID name is changed, and the email address is changed.
Since the Spam entities are software, they will try the ID they have on file, and when that fails, they will go on to the next, until they run out of Id's they've created on this web site.
ID# Target Date

2816    2021-03-23 <<== Actual 2021/03/06
2838    2021-03-24
2860    2021-03-25
2882    2021-03-26
2904    2021-03-27
2926    2021-03-28
2948    2021-03-29
2970    2021-03-30
2992    2021-03-31
3014    2021-04-01
3036    2021-04-02
3058    2021-04-03
3080    2021-04-04
3102    2021-04-05
3124    2021-04-06
3146    2021-04-07
3168    2021-04-08
3190    2021-04-09
3212    2021-04-10
3234    2021-04-11
3256    2021-04-12
3278    2021-04-13
3300    2021-04-14
3322    2021-04-15
3344    2021-04-16
3366    2021-04-17
3388    2021-04-18
3410    2021-04-19
3432    2021-04-20
3454    2021-04-21
3476    2021-04-22
3498    2021-04-23
3520    2021-04-24
3542    2021-04-25
3564    2021-04-26
3586    2021-04-27
3608    2021-04-28
3630    2021-04-29
3652    2021-04-30
3674    2021-05-01
3696    2021-05-02
3718    2021-05-03
3740    2021-05-04
3762    2021-05-05
3784    2021-05-06
3806    2021-05-07
3828    2021-05-08
3850    2021-05-09
3872    2021-05-10
3894    2021-05-11
3916    2021-05-12
3938    2021-05-13
3960    2021-05-14
3982    2021-05-15
4004    2021-05-16
4026    2021-05-17
4048    2021-05-18
4070    2021-05-19
4092    2021-05-20
4114    2021-05-21
4136    2021-05-22
4158    2021-05-23
4180    2021-05-24
4202    2021-05-25
4224    2021-05-26
4246    2021-05-27
4268    2021-05-28
4290    2021-05-29
4312    2021-05-30
4334    2021-05-31 <<== Target date for retiring Not Verified accounts.  Maximum available Registered User count expected. 19K ???
4356    2021-06-01
4378    2021-06-02
4400    2021-06-03
4422    2021-06-04
4444    2021-06-05
4466    2021-06-06
4488    2021-06-07
4510    2021-06-08
4532    2021-06-09
4554    2021-06-10
4576    2021-06-11
4598    2021-06-12
4620    2021-06-13
4642    2021-06-14
4664    2021-06-15
4686    2021-06-16
4708    2021-06-17
4730    2021-06-18
4752    2021-06-19
4774    2021-06-20
4796    2021-06-21
4818    2021-06-22
4840    2021-06-23
4862    2021-06-24
4884    2021-06-25
4906    2021-06-26
4928    2021-06-27
4950    2021-06-28
4972    2021-06-29
4994    2021-06-30
5016    2021-07-01
5038    2021-07-02
5060    2021-07-03
5082    2021-07-04
5104    2021-07-05
5126    2021-07-06
5148    2021-07-07
5170    2021-07-08
5192    2021-07-09
5214    2021-07-10
5236    2021-07-11
5258    2021-07-12
5280    2021-07-13
5302    2021-07-14
5324    2021-07-15
5346    2021-07-16
5368    2021-07-17
5390    2021-07-18
5412    2021-07-19
5434    2021-07-20
5456    2021-07-21
5478    2021-07-22
5500    2021-07-23
5522    2021-07-24
5544    2021-07-25
5566    2021-07-26
5588    2021-07-27
5610    2021-07-28
5632    2021-07-29
5654    2021-07-30
5676    2021-07-31
5698    2021-08-01
5720    2021-08-02
5742    2021-08-03
5764    2021-08-04
5786    2021-08-05
5808    2021-08-06
5830    2021-08-07
5852    2021-08-08
5874    2021-08-09
5896    2021-08-10
5918    2021-08-11
5940    2021-08-12
5962    2021-08-13
5984    2021-08-14
6006    2021-08-15
6028    2021-08-16
6050    2021-08-17
6072    2021-08-18
6094    2021-08-19
6116    2021-08-20
6138    2021-08-21
6160    2021-08-22
6182    2021-08-23
6204    2021-08-24
6226    2021-08-25
6248    2021-08-26
6270    2021-08-27
6292    2021-08-28
6314    2021-08-29
6336    2021-08-30
6358    2021-08-31
6380    2021-09-01
6402    2021-09-02
6424    2021-09-03
6446    2021-09-04
6468    2021-09-05
6490    2021-09-06
6512    2021-09-07
6534    2021-09-08
6556    2021-09-09
6578    2021-09-10
6600    2021-09-11
6622    2021-09-12
6644    2021-09-13
6666    2021-09-14
6688    2021-09-15
6710    2021-09-16
6732    2021-09-17
6754    2021-09-18
6776    2021-09-19
6798    2021-09-20
6820    2021-09-21
6842    2021-09-22
6864    2021-09-23
6886    2021-09-24
6908    2021-09-25
6930    2021-09-26
6952    2021-09-27
6974    2021-09-28
6996    2021-09-29
7018    2021-09-30
7040    2021-10-01
7062    2021-10-02
7084    2021-10-03
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7150    2021-10-06
7172    2021-10-07
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7216    2021-10-09
7238    2021-10-10
7260    2021-10-11
7282    2021-10-12
7304    2021-10-13
7326    2021-10-14
7348    2021-10-15
7370    2021-10-16
7392    2021-10-17
7414    2021-10-18
7436    2021-10-19
7458    2021-10-20
7480    2021-10-21
7502    2021-10-22
7524    2021-10-23
7546    2021-10-24
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7612    2021-10-27
7634    2021-10-28
7656    2021-10-29
7678    2021-10-30
7700    2021-10-31
7722    2021-11-01
7744    2021-11-02
7766    2021-11-03
7788    2021-11-04
7810    2021-11-05
7832    2021-11-06
7854    2021-11-07
7876    2021-11-08
7898    2021-11-09
7920    2021-11-10
7942    2021-11-11
7964    2021-11-12
7986    2021-11-13
8008    2021-11-14
8030    2021-11-15
8052    2021-11-16
8074    2021-11-17
8096    2021-11-18
8118    2021-11-19
8140    2021-11-20
8162    2021-11-21
8184    2021-11-22
8206    2021-11-23
8228    2021-11-24
8250    2021-11-25
8272    2021-11-26
8294    2021-11-27
8316    2021-11-28
8338    2021-11-29
8360    2021-11-30
8382    2021-12-01
8404    2021-12-02
8426    2021-12-03
8448    2021-12-04
8470    2021-12-05
8492    2021-12-06
8514    2021-12-07
8536    2021-12-08
8558    2021-12-09
8580    2021-12-10
8602    2021-12-11
8624    2021-12-12
8646    2021-12-13
8668    2021-12-14
8690    2021-12-15
8712    2021-12-16
8734    2021-12-17
8756    2021-12-18
8778    2021-12-19
8800    2021-12-20
8822    2021-12-21
8844    2021-12-22
8866    2021-12-23
8888    2021-12-24
8910    2021-12-25
8932    2021-12-26
8954    2021-12-27
8976    2021-12-28
8998    2021-12-29
9020    2021-12-30
9042    2021-12-31
9064    2022-01-01
9086    2022-01-02
9108    2022-01-03
9130    2022-01-04
9152    2022-01-05
9174    2022-01-06
9196    2022-01-07
9218    2022-01-08
9240    2022-01-09
9262    2022-01-10
9284    2022-01-11
9306    2022-01-12
9328    2022-01-13
9350    2022-01-14
9372    2022-01-15
9394    2022-01-16
9416    2022-01-17
9438    2022-01-18
9460    2022-01-19
9482    2022-01-20
9504    2022-01-21
9526    2022-01-22
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9658    2022-01-28
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9702    2022-01-30
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9812    2022-02-04
9834    2022-02-05
9856    2022-02-06
9878    2022-02-07
9900    2022-02-08
9922    2022-02-09
9944    2022-02-10
9966    2022-02-11
9988    2022-02-12
10010    2022-02-13
10032    2022-02-14
10054    2022-02-15
10076    2022-02-16
10098    2022-02-17
10120    2022-02-18
10142    2022-02-19
10164    2022-02-20
10186    2022-02-21
10208    2022-02-22
10230    2022-02-23
10252    2022-02-24
10274    2022-02-25
10296    2022-02-26
10318    2022-02-27
10340    2022-02-28
10362    2022-03-01
10384    2022-03-02
10406    2022-03-03
10428    2022-03-04
10450    2022-03-05
10472    2022-03-06
10494    2022-03-07
10516    2022-03-08
10538    2022-03-09
10560    2022-03-10
10582    2022-03-11
10604    2022-03-12
10626    2022-03-13
10648    2022-03-14
10670    2022-03-15
10692    2022-03-16
10714    2022-03-17
10736    2022-03-18
10758    2022-03-19
10780    2022-03-20
10802    2022-03-21
10824    2022-03-22
10846    2022-03-23
10868    2022-03-24
10890    2022-03-25
10912    2022-03-26
10934    2022-03-27
10956    2022-03-28
10978    2022-03-29
11000    2022-03-30
11022    2022-03-31
11044    2022-04-01
11066    2022-04-02
11088    2022-04-03
11110    2022-04-04
11132    2022-04-05
11154    2022-04-06
11176    2022-04-07
11198    2022-04-08
11220    2022-04-09
11242    2022-04-10
11264    2022-04-11
11286    2022-04-12
11308    2022-04-13
11330    2022-04-14
11352    2022-04-15
11374    2022-04-16
11396    2022-04-17
11418    2022-04-18
11440    2022-04-19
11462    2022-04-20
11484    2022-04-21
11506    2022-04-22
11528    2022-04-23
11550    2022-04-24
11572    2022-04-25
11594    2022-04-26
11616    2022-04-27
11638    2022-04-28
11660    2022-04-29
11682    2022-04-30
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11858    2022-05-08
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11990    2022-05-14
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12694    2022-06-15
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12738    2022-06-17
12760    2022-06-18
12782    2022-06-19
12804    2022-06-20
12826    2022-06-21
12848    2022-06-22
12870    2022-06-23
12892    2022-06-24
12914    2022-06-25
12936    2022-06-26
12958    2022-06-27
12980    2022-06-28
13002    2022-06-29
13024    2022-06-30
13046    2022-07-01
13068    2022-07-02
13090    2022-07-03
13112    2022-07-04
13134    2022-07-05
13156    2022-07-06
13178    2022-07-07
13200    2022-07-08
13222    2022-07-09
13244    2022-07-10
13266    2022-07-11
13288    2022-07-12
13310    2022-07-13
13332    2022-07-14
13354    2022-07-15
13376    2022-07-16
13398    2022-07-17
13420    2022-07-18
13442    2022-07-19
13464    2022-07-20
13486    2022-07-21
13508    2022-07-22
13530    2022-07-23
13552    2022-07-24
13574    2022-07-25
13596    2022-07-26
13618    2022-07-27
13640    2022-07-28
13662    2022-07-29
13684    2022-07-30
13706    2022-07-31
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13750    2022-08-02
13772    2022-08-03
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13838    2022-08-06
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13882    2022-08-08
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13970    2022-08-12
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14014    2022-08-14
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14058    2022-08-16
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14102    2022-08-18
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14168    2022-08-21
14190    2022-08-22
14212    2022-08-23
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14256    2022-08-25
14278    2022-08-26
14300    2022-08-27
14322    2022-08-28
14344    2022-08-29
14366    2022-08-30
14388    2022-08-31
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15136    2022-10-04
15158    2022-10-05
15180    2022-10-06
15202    2022-10-07
15224    2022-10-08
15246    2022-10-09
15268    2022-10-10
15290    2022-10-11
15312    2022-10-12
15334    2022-10-13
15356    2022-10-14
15378    2022-10-15
15400    2022-10-16
15422    2022-10-17
15444    2022-10-18
15466    2022-10-19
15488    2022-10-20
15510    2022-10-21
15532    2022-10-22
15554    2022-10-23
15576    2022-10-24
15598    2022-10-25
15620    2022-10-26
15642    2022-10-27
15664    2022-10-28
15686    2022-10-29
15708    2022-10-30
15730    2022-10-31
15752    2022-11-01
15774    2022-11-02
15796    2022-11-03
15818    2022-11-04
15840    2022-11-05
15862    2022-11-06
15884    2022-11-07
15906    2022-11-08
15928    2022-11-09
15950    2022-11-10
15972    2022-11-11
15994    2022-11-12
16016    2022-11-13
16038    2022-11-14
16060    2022-11-15
16082    2022-11-16
16104    2022-11-17
16126    2022-11-18
16148    2022-11-19
16170    2022-11-20
16192    2022-11-21
16214    2022-11-22
16236    2022-11-23
16258    2022-11-24
16280    2022-11-25
16302    2022-11-26
16324    2022-11-27
16346    2022-11-28
16368    2022-11-29
16390    2022-11-30
16412    2022-12-01
16434    2022-12-02
16456    2022-12-03
16478    2022-12-04
16482    2022-12-05
16486       2022-12-06
16496      Several thousand more ID's are in the user table as "Not Verified"  As these are converted, they will be added to the pending total.
16537      New total as of 2021/01/10

         The grand total of available ID's is in excess of 19,000

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Last edited by tahanson43206 (2021-03-06 20:28:19)

SpaceNut

Administrator

From: New Hampshire

Registered: 2004-07-22

Posts: 29,433

Re: Housekeeping

The ban can be undone from the admin panel without any issue.

The person wanting an id can be sent from the member making the connection as non registered can not see my email address and by forwarding that limits my inbox being spammed.

tahanson43206

Moderator

Registered: 2018-04-27

Posts: 19,446

Re: Housekeeping

For SpaceNut re #402

While a private email to you is an important option for members, would you be willing to consider a nomination offered in the open posting area of this topic, or perhaps in the new Recruiting topic?

The opening nomination could be done without identifying information, with a view to finding out if the candidate might be someone you'd like to interview.

The actual interview could be done via email for privacy.

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tahanson43206

Moderator

Registered: 2018-04-27

Posts: 19,446

Re: Housekeeping

For SpaceNut re Account Processing:

TestID00044 is complete.  This was the set of ID's planned for 2020/11/17.

Time required was 20:36-20:04 or 32 minutes.

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tahanson43206

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Re: Housekeeping

For SpaceNut re Account Processing

TestID00066 is complete.

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tahanson43206

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Re: Housekeeping

For SpaceNut ... ID report: Through 88 completed.

Please note report on recent post by questionable ID

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SpaceNut

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Re: Housekeeping

I did ban and removed the questionable poser.
I reported the translation in the report for you to see.
The time zone was another issue.

I can unban those accounts effected as needed.

On another note the garage removed the engine from the Subaru outback on Tuesday morning and I gave aid to the mechanic to push the vehicle out of the lift bay so that he could use it for his normal business.

Tonight I started to break the engine down removing the intake manifold and most of the wiring from sensors on the engine that was connected to it on the top portion of the engine. Also removed was the alternator and air conditioning brackets adjusters.

Tomorrow I am hoping to finish breaking down each sides valve covers and remove the heads to expose the gaskets for the rebuild if there is no signs of damage. If there is I have a back up engine to make use of for heads if they are in need to be replaced.

Will buy the gaskets and sealing cover gaskets for the rebuild after doing an inspection of the parts.

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Re: Housekeeping

For SpaceNut re #407

Thanks for taking care of that German speaking Russian spam post!  I appreciate your being there to resolve situations like that!

FYI ... the process of converting banned ID's to the intermediate state of TestID is settling down into a routine.  At this point I find I'm looking forward to the exercise, and to the future encounters with ** real ** posters who are scattered among the spam ID's.  This is my first opportunity to "meet" many of the past contributors to the forum in an methodical way.

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Thanks for the update on your TLC for the Suburu Outback!  The level of maintenance capability you've been reporting seems "right up there" with GW Johnson's maintenance of vehicles over the decades.  There are few people on the planet (or at least that I've "met") who are able to take on challenges like that.  I think I've mentioned I had two Uncles who were able to tackle projects like that.  They were both WW II vets and long gone at this point.  It's good to see you and GW Johnson carrying the flame for a while longer.

Seems as though you have an unusually good working relationship with the mechanic who pulled the engine for you.

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Question ... is the idea of creating a small consortium to distribute Internet in a neighborhood of any interest?  My neighborhood is served by fiber, but then I live in a large metropolitan area.  Much of the US, and certainly much of the globe do NOT have that level of service, so Elon's Starlink systems might be quite interesting.

I saw a report of a discussion in a local political body in today's newspaper.  The judgement coming out of the discussion appeared to be an estimate that Internet service needs to cost about $20 per month to achieve affordability for a large part of the local population. 

The existing commercial Internet providers aren't going to lower prices that low without competition.

Elon's $99 monthly charge could be spread among 5 households to sustain that $20 charge.   The concept reminds me of the party line telephones I remember from living in a rural area early on.  If that's all you have available, you can live with it.

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Re: Housekeeping

For SpaceNut re ID recovery: TestID110 ready for re-use for a high value new member.
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Re: Housekeeping

There is a problem when acting as a reseller of a service as thats what has caused the cable companies all the rise in costs to its customers.

I cleared the banned accounts for the testid's

Tonight's engine work entailed removing the harmonic balancer pulley, belt guards, torsion pulley and timing belt after marking gear alignments for top dead center. Removed the compressor for the AC such as to free up the dipstick holder tube. I was able to get all bolts out of the passenger valve cover but the drivers side has one rusted to soft to remove still stuck. Garage owner might attempt to get it free tomorrow otherwise its vise grips and grinding it flush to get the cover off.

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Re: Housekeeping

For SpaceNut ...

One of the benefits of undertaking the processing of (mostly Russian) spam ID's is encountering members who've contributed in the past.

Today's example is "3015"

Registered: 2017-01-09

Last post: 2018-01-04 14:07:23

Last visit: 2019-02-03 18:56:20

Posts: 30 - Show all topics - Show all posts - Show all subscriptions

I took a look at those 30 posts, and came away with the impression this is a former active member who would be worth encouraging to visit again.

I'm working on the 22 ID's for today, through 132.

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SpaceNut

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Re: Housekeeping

Cleared the bans on user ID testID111 - 132

edit updating

Cleared the bans on user ID testID133 - 145

tahanson43206

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Re: Housekeeping

For SpaceNut (primarily) and for all forum members who may be interested in Astronomy ...

This member was active briefly in 2008:

Username
3488

User activity
Registered: 2008-04-15 (0.0.0.0)

Last post: 2008-04-24 16:33:23

Last visit: 2008-04-24 14:26:54

Posts: 23 -

This member showed a strong interest in astronomy.

The member was active for only a few days in 2008.

A lot has happened in astronomy since 2008.

Thanks for unbanning through 145.... 146-154 are now recovered from spam ID status.

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Re: Housekeeping

unban done for 146 through 154

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Re: Housekeeping

For SpaceNut ... accounts TestID00155 through TestID00176 are ready for new high value forum members.

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Re: Housekeeping

unban has been performed but I noticed that 159 is missing from the sequential listing

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Re: Housekeeping

For SpaceNut re #416

Thanks for catching TestID00159 missing ... it's there now!

I have an attendance clicker at one of my workstations, but not at the other.  FluxBB tells me when I'm duplicating ID's, but not when I'm missing them.  This means that your sharp eyes are more than just an audit ... they're an insurance policy!

Thanks!

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On a related topic ... perhaps we need to step back a notch .... RobertDyck asked for a person to help design the food service component of the Large Ship project.  kbd512 offered the appropriate and helpful suggestion of approaching a Cruise Ship captain or XO for a lead.

However, I think your suggestion (as I remember it) to secure Mars Society approval and guidance for a recruiting effort is where we should begin.  I have no inside track with the Mars Society, but perhaps there are members of the forum who do.

The forum is now closed to spammers, so it may be that the status of the forum can rise a bit in the eyes of the Mars Society leadership.

A demonstration of intent to recruit high-value members might be of interest to the Society.

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SpaceNut

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Re: Housekeeping

I just went to the new members area over on Mars Society and was a bit disappointed by the content of discusion and that even a spammer or 2 are present making it less attractive to do so.

Mars Society International » New Members Area

There is 1533 members signed up for the area of which you must create and log in to be able to get access.

This is the one question I responded to

Keith R Bolson

• 3 DAYS AGO
Hello. Pardon me if I am a bit unfamilar with the mechanics of these discussion groups. I have read and recommend Zubrin’s “Case for Space” & other works.
Question: Were the figures for the chemical reactions – RWGS, Sabatier, etc available somewhere in a spread-sheet format, or simulation code? Are there spreadsheets or (e.g. MATLAB) simulations available that, for a mock Mar base, can track propellant, thermal and electical usage and production? I’d hoped to find this at marssociety.org, but have not. Such a simulation would be informative and maybe more interesting than the silliness of “Red Planet Farming” on Steam.

SpaceNut:

Good question as to the analog sites data for use to reverse engineer the amount of each that we would need for a real mars location. http://newmars.com/forums/ has a large amount of information buried within the many forums topics which does include the analog sites as well. We currently have the registrations closed to slow and stop the general low levels of use in hopes to attract new members to add to discussions that are ongoing. You can contact me and I will send the email login so that you can gain access to a user profile to login with to post. Upon logging in change the profile data so as to keep it for your use.

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For SpaceNut .... Accounts 177-198 are ready for unbanning.

They are also ready for use by high-value members to be recruited into the forum, to help with Large Ship and other projects to come.

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Your recovery of archived papers from the Mars Society papers collection, and assignment to appropriate topics in the forum was a Tour de Force!

Bravo!

I particularly liked the attempt at design of a rotating vessel.

There might be something in that paper RobertDyck could adapt or adopt.

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SpaceNut

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Re: Housekeeping

ah I see you found missing 40 along with filling in the others from 177 - 198 which have all been unbanned

Thanks as its hard to be an admin that is absenteeism to promote the use of the forum.

tahanson43206

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Re: Housekeeping

For SpaceNut re ID recovery .... TestID221 through TestID242 are ready for unbanning.

Thinking ahead to our first invited new member ...

It the past, new members just showed up.

There was no formal introduction provided or expected.

This forum is moving toward a formal by-invitation membership structure.

All current members (defined as those with posts who were not banned) are grandfathered into the structure.

New members would (presumably) be vetted before they are admitted, and they could be introduced with some minimal details about their backgrounds and the contribution they are enlisted to make on behalf of one of the existing member projects.

I'd like to suggest that nominations be posted in full view of the membership and of the global audience, without identifying details, since preservation of identity is a characteristic of this forum.  That should be preserved.

Individual members can forego public anonymity if they wish. 

However, ** every ** nominee should be known to the approving individual, who would be an Administrator or a Moderator acting as sponsor.

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SpaceNut

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That invite could also go through the webmaster as well to increase opportunity to get new members as well.

Will take care of the unbanning as well...

We can also include other web pages that mars society maintains such as the https://marspedia.org/Home along with others.

Welcome to Marspedia!
The collaborative resource for exploring and settling the Red Planet.
Statistics: 760 articles | 1,495 uploads | 211 registered contributors | 9 administrators

Maybe even the analog sites could also get the explorers to voice content on the forum as well.

Fostering more outreach for the forum also should be considered by all and not just the few invite a freind....

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Re: Housekeeping

For SpaceNut re #422

Thanks for the link to marspedia.org !!!

Category Hierarchy
All categories for Marspedia roll up into the following 6 top-level categories. Two lower tiers of categories and pages linked to them can be seen by clicking the link icon on each. Creators of new pages should only link one or more of the categories in the hierarchy shown below to their page.

I. Mars Planetary Science - physical description of the planet; all the science data that is collected
II. Mars Spacecraft/Robotic Missions - (non-human) - mission planning and execution history.
III. Mars Human Exploration - human exploration concepts and planning
IV. Mars Human Settlement - including plans & concepts, philosophical/ethical considerations, and mars analogue research
V. Mars Outreach - Advocacy for Mars Exploration/Settlement - people and organizations (Mars Society, Marspedia, etc), political action, and public outreach & education
VI. Mars Arts and Literature - Mars in literature, music, movies, plays, graphic arts, photography


I'm picking up here on the (to me ** very ** significant) inclusion of the words "plans" and "planning" in the listing of topic categories ...

The Wikipedia structure ** may ** provide the stability for reference that is missing from the forum database, with its constant flow of new posts and the aging of planning related posts.

I have some (small) experience editing on the main Wikipedia site, so I am (a bit) familiar with the procedures.

This might be worth considering for the Large Ship and for Asteroid related projects.

Regarding membership ... I'd like to suggest thinking of the people recruited for projects as different from ordinary members.  They would be invited to make specific contributions to help specific projects to move forward.

Having a stable place to store their contributions would be helpful.

Furthermore, having a stable place for project plans would be helpful for Quark's Friends to evaluate the potential for funding.

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For SpaceNut and all celebrating Thanksgiving despite the challenges of the time ...

This was from 2013 ...

Wishing all a happy Thanksgiving Day.

Mine will be with family, making the meal hopefully with a little help and enjoying the Macy thanksgiving day Parade on TV being shown by the networks on the cable provider.

My meal will be sort of traditional but I can not say that for Irradiated Turkey, Thermostabilized Yams: Thanksgiving Dinner in Space to feed two Americans currently living on the International Space Station amoung the six people that have been there for a short while.

Our family (extended) is staying put this year.  My inquiry about Zoom visits fell flat, so it'll be a quiet day.

I understand Macy's is putting on a (modified) show despite the restrictions in New York.

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Re: Housekeeping

The is an emotionally charged time of year as we go through the rising numbers of those catching covid-19, not having enough to make ends meet let alone having a large meal may be an issue for many. We can only hope that we will unite in peace and strive to make a difference to others that have not as much as we might have.

I am wishing all a happy Thanksgiving day as well tahanson43206: to the many members of NewMars plus Mars Society as well. Be safe....