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#1 2003-06-16 23:01:11

Lone--Wolfe
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Re: Magnetic Rifle? - Earth Based Rail Gun...?

Would it be possible for us to construct a massive tube reaching up through the atmosphere, have the air pumped out, and use a series of magnets to send the shuttle into space without the lost cost of fuel. The power could be used to send it at specific speeds to different spots. Do any of you think that this is a possible alternative to standard rockets?

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#2 2003-06-16 23:40:59

Echus_Chasma
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Re: Magnetic Rifle? - Earth Based Rail Gun...?

I would say that it would be possible, but not anytime very soon.

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#3 2003-06-17 01:52:13

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Re: Magnetic Rifle? - Earth Based Rail Gun...?

Considering how much air you'd have to pump out, it would probably be easier just to build a space elevator.  After all if you can build structures tall enough to escape the atmosphere and sustain a vaccuum that large you probably have materials capable of supporting an se.


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#4 2003-06-18 18:09:35

Lone--Wolfe
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Re: Magnetic Rifle? - Earth Based Rail Gun...?

i guess not anytime soon, duh. (jk) i was thinking about that self sustained vacuum before, but then again, thats thousands of feet. but once we get there, a  cost effective suggestion, no?

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#5 2003-06-18 22:19:02

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Re: Magnetic Rifle? - Earth Based Rail Gun...?

If you wanted to build something like that it seems you'd probably want to build the tube on top of an extremely high tower to reduce the need to pump out so much air.  I think it could ultimately be cheap since it's a lot cheaper to lift something using electricity rather than propellants.  According to the book Mining the Sky by John Lewis, it would cost about $40 for the electricity to lift a 165 pound person to orbit if you could utilize raw electricity for the task and not use propellants (this doesn't include things like the price of the ship, upkeep, etc.)


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#6 2003-06-19 09:41:39

nirgal
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Re: Magnetic Rifle? - Earth Based Rail Gun...?

Build it on the airless moon! On Earth space elevators are a better idea.

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