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tahanson43206

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Posts: 19,433

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Today on Mars:  <<-- Days of the week are back in alignment <<== Last day of Month 10

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html

Martian Year: 35        Martian Month in 12 month format: 5
Solar Longitude: 132.1     Sol Number: 283

Previous SL: 131.6        Previous Sol: 282

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.

Sol 283 is in Month 11 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month 11 extends from Sol 280 through 307. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details. <<== There are 28 days in Month 11
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 283 is Wednesday in the Proposed calendar for Mars. 

The Next New Year on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees.
The next Skip Day will occur in January on Earth.

For current weather on Mars at Insight location, see:
https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

The topic My Hacienda is set up to encourage up to 2750 forum members to build a virtual community.
Each participant "claims" a square kilometer of surface, and shares below surface with the community.
Each Hacienda is a participant in the economy of a thriving interdependent free market.
Each Hacienda provides at least one product or service, and multiple products or services are welcome.

As of this Sol, the number of plots established in Sagan City (2018) is: > 1 (inventory pending) [Thanks to everyone who registered!]

Recruiting Announcement: People are needed to participate in the Sagan City (2018) Virtual Community

The concept is to imagine life on Mars at the level of current 1st Tier civilization on Earth.  This community is assumed well past startup phases.

The objective is to gain a clear understanding of the operation of market forces in a community of 2750 plots.  Community members have needs.

The market is there to meet those needs.  The first step is to identify the needs.

I'd like to thank the members of the Mars Society whose financial support allows the NewMars forum database to flourish.

Month 11 of 24: Quarter 2 of 4 [Months 7-12] (This month has 28 days)

tahanson43206

Moderator

Registered: 2018-04-27

Posts: 19,433

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Today on Mars:  <<-- Days of the week are back in alignment

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html

Martian Year: 35        Martian Month in 12 month format: 5
Solar Longitude: 132.6     Sol Number: 284

Previous SL: 132.1        Previous Sol: 283

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.

Sol 284 is in Month 11 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month 11 extends from Sol 280 through 307. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details. <<== There are 28 days in Month 11
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 284 is Thursday in the Proposed calendar for Mars. 

The Next New Year on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees.
The next Skip Day will occur in January on Earth.

For current weather on Mars at Insight location, see:
https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

The topic My Hacienda is set up to encourage up to 2750 forum members to build a virtual community.
Each participant "claims" a square kilometer of surface, and shares below surface with the community.
Each Hacienda is a participant in the economy of a thriving interdependent free market.
Each Hacienda provides at least one product or service, and multiple products or services are welcome.

As of this Sol, the number of plots established in Sagan City (2018) is: > 1 (inventory pending) [Thanks to everyone who registered!]

Recruiting Announcement: People are needed to participate in the Sagan City (2018) Virtual Community

The concept is to imagine life on Mars at the level of current 1st Tier civilization on Earth.  This community is assumed well past startup phases.

The objective is to gain a clear understanding of the operation of market forces in a community of 2750 plots.  Community members have needs.

The market is there to meet those needs.  The first step is to identify the needs.

I'd like to thank the members of the Mars Society whose financial support allows the NewMars forum database to flourish.

Month 11 of 24: Quarter 2 of 4 [Months 7-12] (This month has 28 days)

tahanson43206

Moderator

Registered: 2018-04-27

Posts: 19,433

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Today on Mars:  <<-- Days of the week are back in alignment

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html

Martian Year: 35        Martian Month in 12 month format: 5
Solar Longitude: 133.1     Sol Number: 285

Previous SL: 132.6        Previous Sol: 284

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.

Sol 285 is in Month 11 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month 11 extends from Sol 280 through 307. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details. <<== There are 28 days in Month 11
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 285 is Friday in the Proposed calendar for Mars. 

The Next New Year on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees.
The next Skip Day will occur in January on Earth.

For current weather on Mars at Insight location, see:
https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

The topic My Hacienda is set up to encourage up to 2750 forum members to build a virtual community.
Each participant "claims" a square kilometer of surface, and shares below surface with the community.
Each Hacienda is a participant in the economy of a thriving interdependent free market.
Each Hacienda provides at least one product or service, and multiple products or services are welcome.

As of this Sol, the number of plots established in Sagan City (2018) is: > 1 (inventory pending) [Thanks to everyone who registered!]

Recruiting Announcement: People are needed to participate in the Sagan City (2018) Virtual Community

The concept is to imagine life on Mars at the level of current 1st Tier civilization on Earth.  This community is assumed well past startup phases.

The objective is to gain a clear understanding of the operation of market forces in a community of 2750 plots.  Community members have needs.

The market is there to meet those needs.  The first step is to identify the needs.

I'd like to thank the members of the Mars Society whose financial support allows the NewMars forum database to flourish.

Month 11 of 24: Quarter 2 of 4 [Months 7-12] (This month has 28 days)

tahanson43206

Moderator

Registered: 2018-04-27

Posts: 19,433

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Today on Mars:  <<-- Days of the week are back in alignment

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html

Martian Year: 35        Martian Month in 12 month format: 5
Solar Longitude: 133.5     Sol Number: 286

Previous SL: 133.1        Previous Sol: 285

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.

Sol 286 is in Month 11 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month 11 extends from Sol 280 through 307. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details. <<== There are 28 days in Month 11
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 286 is Saturday in the Proposed calendar for Mars. 

The Next New Year on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees.
The next Skip Day will occur in January on Earth.

For current weather on Mars at Insight location, see:
https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

The topic My Hacienda is set up to encourage up to 2750 forum members to build a virtual community.
Each participant "claims" a square kilometer of surface, and shares below surface with the community.
Each Hacienda is a participant in the economy of a thriving interdependent free market.
Each Hacienda provides at least one product or service, and multiple products or services are welcome.

As of this Sol, the number of plots established in Sagan City (2018) is: > 1 (inventory pending) [Thanks to everyone who registered!]

Recruiting Announcement: People are needed to participate in the Sagan City (2018) Virtual Community

The concept is to imagine life on Mars at the level of current 1st Tier civilization on Earth.  This community is assumed well past startup phases.

The objective is to gain a clear understanding of the operation of market forces in a community of 2750 plots.  Community members have needs.

The market is there to meet those needs.  The first step is to identify the needs.

I'd like to thank the members of the Mars Society whose financial support allows the NewMars forum database to flourish.

Month 11 of 24: Quarter 2 of 4 [Months 7-12] (This month has 28 days)

tahanson43206

Moderator

Registered: 2018-04-27

Posts: 19,433

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Today on Mars:  <<-- Days of the week are back in alignment

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html

Martian Year: 35        Martian Month in 12 month format: 5
Solar Longitude: 134.0     Sol Number: 287

Previous SL: 133.5        Previous Sol: 286

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.

Sol 287 is in Month 11 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month 11 extends from Sol 280 through 307. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details. <<== There are 28 days in Month 11
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 287 is Sunday in the Proposed calendar for Mars. 

The Next New Year on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees.
The next Skip Day will occur in January on Earth.

For current weather on Mars at Insight location, see:
https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

The topic My Hacienda is set up to encourage up to 2750 forum members to build a virtual community.
Each participant "claims" a square kilometer of surface, and shares below surface with the community.
Each Hacienda is a participant in the economy of a thriving interdependent free market.
Each Hacienda provides at least one product or service, and multiple products or services are welcome.

As of this Sol, the number of plots established in Sagan City (2018) is: > 1 (inventory pending) [Thanks to everyone who registered!]

Recruiting Announcement: People are needed to participate in the Sagan City (2018) Virtual Community

The concept is to imagine life on Mars at the level of current 1st Tier civilization on Earth.  This community is assumed well past startup phases.

The objective is to gain a clear understanding of the operation of market forces in a community of 2750 plots.  Community members have needs.

The market is there to meet those needs.  The first step is to identify the needs.

I'd like to thank the members of the Mars Society whose financial support allows the NewMars forum database to flourish.

Month 11 of 24: Quarter 2 of 4 [Months 7-12] (This month has 28 days)

tahanson43206

Moderator

Registered: 2018-04-27

Posts: 19,433

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Today on Mars:  <<-- Days of the week are back in alignment

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html

Martian Year: 35        Martian Month in 12 month format: 5
Solar Longitude: 134.5     Sol Number: 288

Previous SL: 134.0        Previous Sol: 287

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.

Sol 288 is in Month 11 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month 11 extends from Sol 280 through 307. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details. <<== There are 28 days in Month 11
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 288 is Monday in the Proposed calendar for Mars. 

The Next New Year on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees.
The next Skip Day will occur in January on Earth.

For current weather on Mars at Insight location, see:
https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

The topic My Hacienda is set up to encourage up to 2750 forum members to build a virtual community.
Each participant "claims" a square kilometer of surface, and shares below surface with the community.
Each Hacienda is a participant in the economy of a thriving interdependent free market.
Each Hacienda provides at least one product or service, and multiple products or services are welcome.

As of this Sol, the number of plots established in Sagan City (2018) is: > 1 (inventory pending) [Thanks to everyone who registered!]

Recruiting Announcement: People are needed to participate in the Sagan City (2018) Virtual Community

The concept is to imagine life on Mars at the level of current 1st Tier civilization on Earth.  This community is assumed well past startup phases.

The objective is to gain a clear understanding of the operation of market forces in a community of 2750 plots.  Community members have needs.

The market is there to meet those needs.  The first step is to identify the needs.

I'd like to thank the members of the Mars Society whose financial support allows the NewMars forum database to flourish.

Month 11 of 24: Quarter 2 of 4 [Months 7-12] (This month has 28 days)

Last edited by tahanson43206 (2020-01-14 18:11:04)

tahanson43206

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Registered: 2018-04-27

Posts: 19,433

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Today on Mars:  <<-- Days of the week are back in alignment

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html

Martian Year: 35        Martian Month in 12 month format: 5
Solar Longitude: 135.0     Sol Number: 289

Previous SL: 134.5        Previous Sol: 288

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.

Sol 289 is in Month 11 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month 11 extends from Sol 280 through 307. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details. <<== There are 28 days in Month 11
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 289 is Tuesday in the Proposed calendar for Mars. 

The Next New Year on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees.
The next Skip Day will occur in January on Earth.

For current weather on Mars at Insight location, see:
https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

The topic My Hacienda is set up to encourage up to 2750 forum members to build a virtual community.
Each participant "claims" a square kilometer of surface, and shares below surface with the community.
Each Hacienda is a participant in the economy of a thriving interdependent free market.
Each Hacienda provides at least one product or service, and multiple products or services are welcome.

As of this Sol, the number of plots established in Sagan City (2018) is: > 1 (inventory pending) [Thanks to everyone who registered!]

Recruiting Announcement: People are needed to participate in the Sagan City (2018) Virtual Community

The concept is to imagine life on Mars at the level of current 1st Tier civilization on Earth.  This community is assumed well past startup phases.

The objective is to gain a clear understanding of the operation of market forces in a community of 2750 plots.  Community members have needs.

The market is there to meet those needs.  The first step is to identify the needs.

I'd like to thank the members of the Mars Society whose financial support allows the NewMars forum database to flourish.

Month 11 of 24: Quarter 2 of 4 [Months 7-12] (This month has 28 days)

tahanson43206

Moderator

Registered: 2018-04-27

Posts: 19,433

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Today on Mars:  <<-- Days of the week are back in alignment

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html

Martian Year: 35        Martian Month in 12 month format: 5
Solar Longitude: 135.5     Sol Number: 290

Previous SL: 135.0        Previous Sol: 289

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.

Sol 290 is in Month 11 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month 11 extends from Sol 280 through 307. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details. <<== There are 28 days in Month 11
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 290 is Wednesday in the Proposed calendar for Mars. 

The Next New Year on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees.
The next Skip Day will occur in January on Earth.

For current weather on Mars at Insight location, see:
https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

The topic My Hacienda is set up to encourage up to 2750 forum members to build a virtual community.
Each participant "claims" a square kilometer of surface, and shares below surface with the community.
Each Hacienda is a participant in the economy of a thriving interdependent free market.
Each Hacienda provides at least one product or service, and multiple products or services are welcome.

As of this Sol, the number of plots established in Sagan City (2018) is: > 1 (inventory pending) [Thanks to everyone who registered!]

Recruiting Announcement: People are needed to participate in the Sagan City (2018) Virtual Community

The concept is to imagine life on Mars at the level of current 1st Tier civilization on Earth.  This community is assumed well past startup phases.

The objective is to gain a clear understanding of the operation of market forces in a community of 2750 plots.  Community members have needs.

The market is there to meet those needs.  The first step is to identify the needs.

I'd like to thank the members of the Mars Society whose financial support allows the NewMars forum database to flourish.

Month 11 of 24: Quarter 2 of 4 [Months 7-12] (This month has 28 days)

tahanson43206

Moderator

Registered: 2018-04-27

Posts: 19,433

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Today on Mars:  <<-- Days of the week are back in alignment

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html

Martian Year: 35        Martian Month in 12 month format: 5
Solar Longitude: 136.0     Sol Number: 291

Previous SL: 135.5        Previous Sol: 290

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.

Sol 291 is in Month 11 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month 11 extends from Sol 280 through 307. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details. <<== There are 28 days in Month 11
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 291 is Thursday in the Proposed calendar for Mars. 

The Next New Year on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees.
The next Skip Day will occur in January on Earth.

For current weather on Mars at Insight location, see:
https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

The topic My Hacienda is set up to encourage up to 2750 forum members to build a virtual community.
Each participant "claims" a square kilometer of surface, and shares below surface with the community.
Each Hacienda is a participant in the economy of a thriving interdependent free market.
Each Hacienda provides at least one product or service, and multiple products or services are welcome.

As of this Sol, the number of plots established in Sagan City (2018) is: > 1 (inventory pending) [Thanks to everyone who registered!]

Recruiting Announcement: People are needed to participate in the Sagan City (2018) Virtual Community

The concept is to imagine life on Mars at the level of current 1st Tier civilization on Earth.  This community is assumed well past startup phases.

The objective is to gain a clear understanding of the operation of market forces in a community of 2750 plots.  Community members have needs.

The market is there to meet those needs.  The first step is to identify the needs.

I'd like to thank the members of the Mars Society whose financial support allows the NewMars forum database to flourish.

Month 11 of 24: Quarter 2 of 4 [Months 7-12] (This month has 28 days)

tahanson43206

Moderator

Registered: 2018-04-27

Posts: 19,433

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Today on Mars:  <<-- Days of the week are back in alignment

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html

Martian Year: 35        Martian Month in 12 month format: 5
Solar Longitude: 136.5     Sol Number: 292

Previous SL: 136.0        Previous Sol: 291

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.

Sol 292 is in Month 11 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month 11 extends from Sol 280 through 307. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details. <<== There are 28 days in Month 11
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 292 is Friday in the Proposed calendar for Mars. 

The Next New Year on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees.
The next Skip Day will occur in January on Earth.

For current weather on Mars at Insight location, see:
https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

The topic My Hacienda is set up to encourage up to 2750 forum members to build a virtual community.
Each participant "claims" a square kilometer of surface, and shares below surface with the community.
Each Hacienda is a participant in the economy of a thriving interdependent free market.
Each Hacienda provides at least one product or service, and multiple products or services are welcome.

As of this Sol, the number of plots established in Sagan City (2018) is: > 1 (inventory pending) [Thanks to everyone who registered!]

Recruiting Announcement: People are needed to participate in the Sagan City (2018) Virtual Community

The concept is to imagine life on Mars at the level of current 1st Tier civilization on Earth.  This community is assumed well past startup phases.

The objective is to gain a clear understanding of the operation of market forces in a community of 2750 plots.  Community members have needs.

The market is there to meet those needs.  The first step is to identify the needs.

I'd like to thank the members of the Mars Society whose financial support allows the NewMars forum database to flourish.

Month 11 of 24: Quarter 2 of 4 [Months 7-12] (This month has 28 days)

louis

Member

From: UK

Registered: 2008-03-24

Posts: 7,208

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

When people live on Mars do you think they will measure their lives and their age in Earth years or Mars years? Aresians might like cutting their age in half! But of course it would be confusing for anyone who travels between the two planets. But trying to retain Earth years and calculate your birthday by the Earth calendar would be confusing.

I guess that your Smartphone or equivalent will be able to do a calculation.

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Let's Go to Mars...Google on: Fast Track to Mars blogspot.com

SpaceNut

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From: New Hampshire

Registered: 2004-07-22

Posts: 29,433

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

That makes for a duel time clock time piece not all unfimilair for those that travel across multiple time zones often.

Being able to align ones thoughts to those that are still on earth will take some effort but most likely will fade with time and many years from now.

Things like the reason for celebrating Martin Luther King day to will fade as we become a one world nation of humans...

What are your plans for your day "on" Monday January 20th? Congress passed the King Holiday and Service act to be celevrated on the third Monday in January not only as a Federal Holiday but as National Day of Service to be a Day on, not a Day off. Volunteering is a wonderful way to honor the legacy of the Rev. King by giving back to community. It is a moment in time for promoting peaceful social change and enduring equality. His vision was one of an endevour to realize the dream united in inclusion. The inclusion is a chance to eliminate barriers of biases and to create an environment where we strive to reach the visions goal.

tahanson43206

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Registered: 2018-04-27

Posts: 19,433

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

For Louis re #461

Thank you for noting this situation for future humans to consider.

I have only one data point to offer from the Science Fiction genre ... Only one story I've read included this as a factor in the story, albeit a minor one. That particular author went with the idea that a year on any body where humans live will mark age.

There ** is ** a universal time value derivable from the vibration rate of atoms.

As has been discussed at great length in the forum archives, the "second" is NOT a universal interval of time. 

I think the consensus of how this will be dealt with for legal purposes is very much in the future.

There are multiple Star Trek sites (of course).  I found one which had assembled a list of birthday mentions in the series (all versions).

With one exception (an alien) it appears all birthdays (and accounting of years) was done based upon the Earth standard year.

(th)

tahanson43206

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Registered: 2018-04-27

Posts: 19,433

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Today on Mars:  <<-- Days of the week are back in alignment

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html

Martian Year: 35        Martian Month in 12 month format: 5
Solar Longitude: 137.0     Sol Number: 293

Previous SL: 136.5        Previous Sol: 292

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.

Sol 293 is in Month 11 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month 11 extends from Sol 280 through 307. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details. <<== There are 28 days in Month 11
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 293 is Saturday in the Proposed calendar for Mars. 

The Next New Year on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees.
The next Skip Day will occur in January on Earth.

For current weather on Mars at Insight location, see:
https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

The topic My Hacienda is set up to encourage up to 2750 forum members to build a virtual community.
Each participant "claims" a square kilometer of surface, and shares below surface with the community.
Each Hacienda is a participant in the economy of a thriving interdependent free market.
Each Hacienda provides at least one product or service, and multiple products or services are welcome.

As of this Sol, the number of plots established in Sagan City (2018) is: > 1 (inventory pending) [Thanks to everyone who registered!]

Recruiting Announcement: People are needed to participate in the Sagan City (2018) Virtual Community

The concept is to imagine life on Mars at the level of current 1st Tier civilization on Earth.  This community is assumed well past startup phases.

The objective is to gain a clear understanding of the operation of market forces in a community of 2750 plots.  Community members have needs.

The market is there to meet those needs.  The first step is to identify the needs.

I'd like to thank the members of the Mars Society whose financial support allows the NewMars forum database to flourish.

Month 11 of 24: Quarter 2 of 4 [Months 7-12] (This month has 28 days)

tahanson43206

Moderator

Registered: 2018-04-27

Posts: 19,433

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Today on Mars:  <<-- Days of the week are back in alignment

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html

Martian Year: 35        Martian Month in 12 month format: 5
Solar Longitude: 137.5     Sol Number: 294

Previous SL: 137.0        Previous Sol: 293

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.

Sol 294 is in Month 11 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month 11 extends from Sol 280 through 307. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details. <<== There are 28 days in Month 11
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 294 is Sunday in the Proposed calendar for Mars. 

The Next New Year on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees.
The next Skip Day will occur in January on Earth.

For current weather on Mars at Insight location, see:
https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

The topic My Hacienda is set up to encourage up to 2750 forum members to build a virtual community.
Each participant "claims" a square kilometer of surface, and shares below surface with the community.
Each Hacienda is a participant in the economy of a thriving interdependent free market.
Each Hacienda provides at least one product or service, and multiple products or services are welcome.

As of this Sol, the number of plots established in Sagan City (2018) is: > 1 (inventory pending) [Thanks to everyone who registered!]

Recruiting Announcement: People are needed to participate in the Sagan City (2018) Virtual Community

The concept is to imagine life on Mars at the level of current 1st Tier civilization on Earth.  This community is assumed well past startup phases.

The objective is to gain a clear understanding of the operation of market forces in a community of 2750 plots.  Community members have needs.

The market is there to meet those needs.  The first step is to identify the needs.

I'd like to thank the members of the Mars Society whose financial support allows the NewMars forum database to flourish.

Month 11 of 24: Quarter 2 of 4 [Months 7-12] (This month has 28 days)

louis

Member

From: UK

Registered: 2008-03-24

Posts: 7,208

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

I can understand that if you are a Star Trekker popping back to Earth for shore leave, but if you are a Mars-born Aresian, working to a 24 month Mars Year calendar and having no connections with Earth other than maybe visiting it once for a vacation (which you didn't much enjoy), I can't really see the imperative to continue with the old years. But, it is one of our most embedded cultural artefacts - Earth year age - so, on the other hand, I can see it might be difficult to dislodge.

For Louis re #461

Thank you for noting this situation for future humans to consider.

I have only one data point to offer from the Science Fiction genre ... Only one story I've read included this as a factor in the story, albeit a minor one. That particular author went with the idea that a year on any body where humans live will mark age.

There ** is ** a universal time value derivable from the vibration rate of atoms.

As has been discussed at great length in the forum archives, the "second" is NOT a universal interval of time. 

I think the consensus of how this will be dealt with for legal purposes is very much in the future.

There are multiple Star Trek sites (of course).  I found one which had assembled a list of birthday mentions in the series (all versions).

With one exception (an alien) it appears all birthdays (and accounting of years) was done based upon the Earth standard year.

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Last edited by louis (2020-01-19 16:39:09)

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Terraformer

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Registered: 2007-08-27

Posts: 3,907

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Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

In that case, I expect the Martians would celebrate unbirthdays halfway through the year.

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louis

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From: UK

Registered: 2008-03-24

Posts: 7,208

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

I guess your Smartphone or future equivalent can give you both ages.  People living in countries with both Catholics and Orthodox adherents get used to Christmas occurring twice...maybe I'm making too big a thing of it. We'll be aged both 55 and 24 or whatever at the same time.  In the UK we cope with both celsius and farenheit, both the 24 hour and 12 hour clock and both metric and Imperial measures, so it's not so difficult to maintain two scales in the head. 

In that case, I expect the Martians would celebrate unbirthdays halfway through the year.

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tahanson43206

Moderator

Registered: 2018-04-27

Posts: 19,433

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Today on Mars:  <<-- Days of the week are back in alignment

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html

Martian Year: 35        Martian Month in 12 month format: 5
Solar Longitude: 137.9     Sol Number: 295

Previous SL: 137.5        Previous Sol: 294

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.

Sol 295 is in Month 11 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month 11 extends from Sol 280 through 307. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details. <<== There are 28 days in Month 11
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 295 is Monday in the Proposed calendar for Mars. 

The Next New Year on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees.
The next Skip Day will occur in January on Earth.

For current weather on Mars at Insight location, see:
https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

The topic My Hacienda is set up to encourage up to 2750 forum members to build a virtual community.
Each participant "claims" a square kilometer of surface, and shares below surface with the community.
Each Hacienda is a participant in the economy of a thriving interdependent free market.
Each Hacienda provides at least one product or service, and multiple products or services are welcome.

As of this Sol, the number of plots established in Sagan City (2018) is: > 1 (inventory pending) [Thanks to everyone who registered!]

Recruiting Announcement: People are needed to participate in the Sagan City (2018) Virtual Community

The concept is to imagine life on Mars at the level of current 1st Tier civilization on Earth.  This community is assumed well past startup phases.

The objective is to gain a clear understanding of the operation of market forces in a community of 2750 plots.  Community members have needs.

The market is there to meet those needs.  The first step is to identify the needs.

I'd like to thank the members of the Mars Society whose financial support allows the NewMars forum database to flourish.

Month 11 of 24: Quarter 2 of 4 [Months 7-12] (This month has 28 days)

tahanson43206

Moderator

Registered: 2018-04-27

Posts: 19,433

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Today on Mars:  <<-- Days of the week are back in alignment

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html

Martian Year: 35        Martian Month in 12 month format: 5
Solar Longitude: 138.4     Sol Number: 296

Previous SL: 137.9        Previous Sol: 295

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.

Sol 296 is in Month 11 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month 11 extends from Sol 280 through 307. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details. <<== There are 28 days in Month 11
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 296 is Tuesday in the Proposed calendar for Mars. 

The Next New Year on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees.
The next Skip Day will occur in January on Earth.

For current weather on Mars at Insight location, see:
https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

The topic My Hacienda is set up to encourage up to 2750 forum members to build a virtual community.
Each participant "claims" a square kilometer of surface, and shares below surface with the community.
Each Hacienda is a participant in the economy of a thriving interdependent free market.
Each Hacienda provides at least one product or service, and multiple products or services are welcome.

As of this Sol, the number of plots established in Sagan City (2018) is: > 1 (inventory pending) [Thanks to everyone who registered!]

Recruiting Announcement: People are needed to participate in the Sagan City (2018) Virtual Community

The concept is to imagine life on Mars at the level of current 1st Tier civilization on Earth.  This community is assumed well past startup phases.

The objective is to gain a clear understanding of the operation of market forces in a community of 2750 plots.  Community members have needs.

The market is there to meet those needs.  The first step is to identify the needs.

I'd like to thank the members of the Mars Society whose financial support allows the NewMars forum database to flourish.

Month 11 of 24: Quarter 2 of 4 [Months 7-12] (This month has 28 days)

tahanson43206

Moderator

Registered: 2018-04-27

Posts: 19,433

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Today on Mars:  <<-- Days of the week are back in alignment

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html

Martian Year: 35        Martian Month in 12 month format: 5
Solar Longitude: 138.9     Sol Number: 297

Previous SL: 138.4        Previous Sol: 296

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.

Sol 297 is in Month 11 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month 11 extends from Sol 280 through 307. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details. <<== There are 28 days in Month 11
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 297 is Wednesday in the Proposed calendar for Mars. 

The Next New Year on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees.
The next Skip Day will occur in January on Earth.

For current weather on Mars at Insight location, see:
https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

The topic My Hacienda is set up to encourage up to 2750 forum members to build a virtual community.
Each participant "claims" a square kilometer of surface, and shares below surface with the community.
Each Hacienda is a participant in the economy of a thriving interdependent free market.
Each Hacienda provides at least one product or service, and multiple products or services are welcome.

As of this Sol, the number of plots established in Sagan City (2018) is: > 1 (inventory pending) [Thanks to everyone who registered!]

Recruiting Announcement: People are needed to participate in the Sagan City (2018) Virtual Community

The concept is to imagine life on Mars at the level of current 1st Tier civilization on Earth.  This community is assumed well past startup phases.

The objective is to gain a clear understanding of the operation of market forces in a community of 2750 plots.  Community members have needs.

The market is there to meet those needs.  The first step is to identify the needs.

I'd like to thank the members of the Mars Society whose financial support allows the NewMars forum database to flourish.

Month 11 of 24: Quarter 2 of 4 [Months 7-12] (This month has 28 days)

tahanson43206

Moderator

Registered: 2018-04-27

Posts: 19,433

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Today on Mars:  <<-- Days of the week are back in alignment

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html

Martian Year: 35        Martian Month in 12 month format: 5
Solar Longitude: 139.4     Sol Number: 298

Previous SL: 138.9        Previous Sol: 297

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.

Sol 298 is in Month 11 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month 11 extends from Sol 280 through 307. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details. <<== There are 28 days in Month 11
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 298 is Thursday in the Proposed calendar for Mars. 

The Next New Year on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees.
The next Skip Day will occur in January on Earth.

For current weather on Mars at Insight location, see:
https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

The topic My Hacienda is set up to encourage up to 2750 forum members to build a virtual community.
Each participant "claims" a square kilometer of surface, and shares below surface with the community.
Each Hacienda is a participant in the economy of a thriving interdependent free market.
Each Hacienda provides at least one product or service, and multiple products or services are welcome.

As of this Sol, the number of plots established in Sagan City (2018) is: > 1 (inventory pending) [Thanks to everyone who registered!]

Recruiting Announcement: People are needed to participate in the Sagan City (2018) Virtual Community

The concept is to imagine life on Mars at the level of current 1st Tier civilization on Earth.  This community is assumed well past startup phases.

The objective is to gain a clear understanding of the operation of market forces in a community of 2750 plots.  Community members have needs.

The market is there to meet those needs.  The first step is to identify the needs.

I'd like to thank the members of the Mars Society whose financial support allows the NewMars forum database to flourish.

Month 11 of 24: Quarter 2 of 4 [Months 7-12] (This month has 28 days)

tahanson43206

Moderator

Registered: 2018-04-27

Posts: 19,433

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Today on Mars:  <<-- Days of the week are back in alignment

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html

Martian Year: 35        Martian Month in 12 month format: 5
Solar Longitude: 139.9     Sol Number: 299

Previous SL: 139.4        Previous Sol: 298

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.

Sol 299 is in Month 11 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month 11 extends from Sol 280 through 307. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details. <<== There are 28 days in Month 11
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 299 is Friday in the Proposed calendar for Mars. 

The Next New Year on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees.
The next Skip Day will occur in January on Earth.

For current weather on Mars at Insight location, see:
https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

The topic My Hacienda is set up to encourage up to 2750 forum members to build a virtual community.
Each participant "claims" a square kilometer of surface, and shares below surface with the community.
Each Hacienda is a participant in the economy of a thriving interdependent free market.
Each Hacienda provides at least one product or service, and multiple products or services are welcome.

As of this Sol, the number of plots established in Sagan City (2018) is: > 1 (inventory pending) [Thanks to everyone who registered!]

Recruiting Announcement: People are needed to participate in the Sagan City (2018) Virtual Community

The concept is to imagine life on Mars at the level of current 1st Tier civilization on Earth.  This community is assumed well past startup phases.

The objective is to gain a clear understanding of the operation of market forces in a community of 2750 plots.  Community members have needs.

The market is there to meet those needs.  The first step is to identify the needs.

I'd like to thank the members of the Mars Society whose financial support allows the NewMars forum database to flourish.

Month 11 of 24: Quarter 2 of 4 [Months 7-12] (This month has 28 days)

louis

Member

From: UK

Registered: 2008-03-24

Posts: 7,208

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Pondering the weather on Mars does bring us closer to the planet.  The highest temperature over the last week was -12 celsius.  I've probably experienced -8 celsius so probably not that far off from being to survive the temperature! I am sure some of our North American contributors have experienced a lot worse than -12.

Today on Mars:  <<-- Days of the week are back in alignment

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html

Martian Year: 35        Martian Month in 12 month format: 5
Solar Longitude: 139.9     Sol Number: 299

Previous SL: 139.4        Previous Sol: 298

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.

Sol 299 is in Month 11 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month 11 extends from Sol 280 through 307. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details. <<== There are 28 days in Month 11
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 299 is Friday in the Proposed calendar for Mars. 

The Next New Year on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees.
The next Skip Day will occur in January on Earth.

For current weather on Mars at Insight location, see:
https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

The topic My Hacienda is set up to encourage up to 2750 forum members to build a virtual community.
Each participant "claims" a square kilometer of surface, and shares below surface with the community.
Each Hacienda is a participant in the economy of a thriving interdependent free market.
Each Hacienda provides at least one product or service, and multiple products or services are welcome.

As of this Sol, the number of plots established in Sagan City (2018) is: > 1 (inventory pending) [Thanks to everyone who registered!]

Recruiting Announcement: People are needed to participate in the Sagan City (2018) Virtual Community

The concept is to imagine life on Mars at the level of current 1st Tier civilization on Earth.  This community is assumed well past startup phases.

The objective is to gain a clear understanding of the operation of market forces in a community of 2750 plots.  Community members have needs.

The market is there to meet those needs.  The first step is to identify the needs.

I'd like to thank the members of the Mars Society whose financial support allows the NewMars forum database to flourish.

Month 11 of 24: Quarter 2 of 4 [Months 7-12] (This month has 28 days)

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tahanson43206

Moderator

Registered: 2018-04-27

Posts: 19,433

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Today on Mars:  <<-- Days of the week are back in alignment

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html

Martian Year: 35        Martian Month in 12 month format: 5
Solar Longitude: 140.4     Sol Number: 300

Previous SL: 139.9        Previous Sol: 299

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.

Sol 300 is in Month 11 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month 11 extends from Sol 280 through 307. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details. <<== There are 28 days in Month 11
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 300 is Saturday in the Proposed calendar for Mars. 

The Next New Year on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees.
The next Skip Day will occur in January on Earth.

For current weather on Mars at Insight location, see:
https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

The topic My Hacienda is set up to encourage up to 2750 forum members to build a virtual community.
Each participant "claims" a square kilometer of surface, and shares below surface with the community.
Each Hacienda is a participant in the economy of a thriving interdependent free market.
Each Hacienda provides at least one product or service, and multiple products or services are welcome.

As of this Sol, the number of plots established in Sagan City (2018) is: > 1 (inventory pending) [Thanks to everyone who registered!]

Recruiting Announcement: People are needed to participate in the Sagan City (2018) Virtual Community

The concept is to imagine life on Mars at the level of current 1st Tier civilization on Earth.  This community is assumed well past startup phases.

The objective is to gain a clear understanding of the operation of market forces in a community of 2750 plots.  Community members have needs.

The market is there to meet those needs.  The first step is to identify the needs.

I'd like to thank the members of the Mars Society whose financial support allows the NewMars forum database to flourish.

Month 11 of 24: Quarter 2 of 4 [Months 7-12] (This month has 28 days)