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#51 2019-06-10 20:13:57

kbd512
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Re: Trump would have been charged with obstruction were he not president,

Terraformer,

It's called "my rules for me and my rules for you".  Democrats think that whatever they do is justified and whatever someone else does that they disagree with has no justification.  If we were honest with ourselves, that sort of thinking is responsible for nearly all of the human death and suffering not related to disease and old age.  It's also something that any psychologist worth his or her salt learns about very early on in their education.  Unfortunately, unreasonable people never think they're being unreasonable at the time.

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#52 2019-06-11 21:11:54

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Re: Trump would have been charged with obstruction were he not president,

Just the same as the laws used for the Rich versus the poor.....One set is written for all....

“Our diversity is our strength; our unity is our power.”

What Nancy Pelosi Wants to Do Before Impeachment

“Public sentiment is everything.”

a premature impeachment that acquits and helps result in the reelection of Trump with a loyal Republican majority in Congress, an expanded Republican majority in state legislatures, and a permanently hyper-conservative judiciary. An impeachment inquiry that results in Trump’s acquittal in the Senate may jeopardize the 31 Democrats in districts where Trump beat Hillary Clinton in 2016. If Democrats lose 18 seats in 2020, they return to the minority just in time for Republicans to try to use gerrymandering to keep them there for a decade.

So making the case for impeachment is the must so as to show others that it should be done.

https://www.businessinsider.com/alexand … nt-2019-6/

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#53 2019-06-12 18:19:53

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Re: Trump would have been charged with obstruction were he not president,

The power to subpeona is being challenged as House Panel Votes to Hold Barr, Ross in Contempt of Congress

Census information critical to getting the congressional seat count correct and for the electoral college number of votes as well.
The other was for the unredacted report. With more to come. These will generate lawsuits which will be heard in court with regards to the constitution rights under law to investigate and gather information for the puirpose of sending bills to the president eventually.

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#54 Today 16:00:21

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Re: Trump would have been charged with obstruction were he not president,

SpaceNut,

If one set of laws applied to everyone, then Hillary Clinton would already be sitting in jail for theft of classified information.

When you take classified information from a classified information management system and transfer that information to any unauthorized device, by any means, reason for so doing entirely irrelevant to the actual crime, you are committing a federal felony that anyone not named Hillary Clinton would be imprisoned for doing.

When you start advocating for Hillary Clinton being indicted for her own criminal activities, then I'll believe that you're actually serious about following the law.  Instead, you've offered up nothing but excuses and deflections about why she did what she did.  It was criminal, plain and simple, and she never would've been permitted to campaign, if she was treated as the criminal she truly is.

There are two standards of justice in America and there always have been.  The politically-connected and wealthy receive one form of reprisal for their criminal behavior and the rest of us receive the more capricious form that rich and poor alike should theoretically receive for any infractions of the law.  The Democrats took it to a new level during former President Obama's administration and now they're whining and crying that President Trump handed them their hat in the last election, which he's likely to do again in the 2020 election since nobody on the Democrat side has even attempted to discuss policy, much less govern.

"Orange man bad" is not a governance policy and doesn't win votes.  It's a shame that the Democrats haven't learned anything from the last election.

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#55 Today 16:58:29

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Re: Trump would have been charged with obstruction were he not president,

From what I remember the stuff found did not have classification and was reclassified once found...
That means the computer software committed the crime of not detecting...not marking the information with the classification as well...
Not to meantion sending something from the government account captures who sent it...which would have sounded some more red flags for a crime....

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#56 Today 18:10:51

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Re: Trump would have been charged with obstruction were he not president,

Why would anyone interested in the hugely important issue of Mars colonisation be interested in this minor shit which will be all over by 2024 if not before?  Can't believe this site undermines itself in such a pathetic way.


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#57 Today 18:57:49

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Re: Trump would have been charged with obstruction were he not president,

SpaceNut,

We're not going off of "what you remember".  We're going off of sworn testimony before Congress that was never refuted by anyone not facing an indictment for theft of classified information, who was also, by the way, was determined to have attempted to destroy evidence (and even failed at doing that).  I like the attempt to blame computer software for human behavior, though.  Nobody told Hillary Clinton to use her own private E-Mail server for public business while she was Secretary of State, and certainly nobody ever told her to destroy the property of the federal government of the United States of America.  When you work for the federal government, your E-Mails are not your personal property.  They're federal government property and subject to federal government regulations.

Louis,

I'm trying to convince people here not to vote for these evil socialist / communist cretins who have never delivered anything worthwhile to the rest of humanity and have, in point of irrefutable historical fact, directly caused the deaths of tens of millions of people, many tens of millions more than our favorite evil racist whipping boy, Adolf Hitler, and who have never created any technological advancements that created the conditions that would make colonization of another planet possible to begin with.

Mars colonization is clearly not a hugely important issue, as evidenced by the nearly non-existent tangible support for the idea, through either our government or private industry.  Other governments from around the world have contributed little to nothing to the idea.  It's a special interest group that a very few of us advocate for because we see the enormous potential benefits to everyone else back on Earth through developing the technology required to travel to and live on another planet.  It's long term versus short term thinking.

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#58 Today 22:15:59

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