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#851 2017-04-06 00:06:07

Tom Kalbfus
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Re: Politics

SpaceNut wrote:

Trouble is under foot for Trump as Counselor Steve Bannon removed from National Security Council role, others added

With Russian spy Evgeny Buryakov deported from United States who posed as a New York banker
2013, Podobnyy attempted to recruit Carter Page, who later served as a foreign policy adviser to Donald Trump's presidential campaign, as an intelligence source.

The travel ban has also had several Lawyers subpoenas for emails and other records for if Trump tries to bring it to the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals is scheduled to hear the case May 15. The relevant time period should start on June 16, 2015, when Trump declared his presidential candidacy, The state lawyers also asked for cooperation from the Justice Department should they seek to serve subpoenas on Trump, Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, White House staff or witness with a federal security detail.

The more troubling thou is the attempts still going on to erase Obamacare such that House Prepares to Leave for Recess Without Health Care Deal for a two-week break without reaching an agreement.

The issues still separating them include insurance regulations. Conservative members want to get rid of regulations imposed on insurance companies that they say drive up the cost of health care but ensure that sick people maintain health care that covers an array of procedures and preventative care.

Moderates, meanwhile, are opposed to stripping the regulations, concerned that too many people would lose coverage and that the cost for sicker and older people would become too great.

Congress will return from recess with a crowded agenda that starts with the need to pass a funding measure to prevent a government shutdown. They'll also have to consider a debt ceiling increase and would like to also tackle tax reform.

April 28th is the end of the continuing resolution....

Not the proper place to do this as Upcoming U.S.-China summit at Mar-a-Lago burnishes Trump brand “The combination of a perceived abuse of office to enrich himself and the irony of it happening while he is recommending deep budget cuts for public services - I think resentment will build,” to which Trump can pocket money from businesses at any time, raising more ethics concerns

Just more money laundering.....

Trump is already rich, why would he need enriching? Trump is President of the United States, the most powerful man in the World! There is no favors Putin can do him other than see to it that Russia doesn't start any wars during his Administration. The idea of Putin bribing Trump is as fanciful as Trump bribing Putin.

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#852 2017-04-06 01:30:56

RobertDyck
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Re: Politics

Tom Kalbfus wrote:
RobertDyck wrote:

You know Tom, I posted before that we have to accept the fact Trump is president. Try to work with him. That makes sense, but your rants can only result in rabid opposition. Also realize Trump is still recovering from a massive loss from years ago. The reason he doesn't pay income tax is a massive carry-forward loss from 1990-something. He's not as rich as he claims to be, and has to find a lot of money to pay his debts.

Why? Donald Trump is 70 years old, if he completes two terms, he'll be 78 when he finishes! You know its entirely possible that someone can die without paying off all of his debts, and you know Trump can't take his money or his debts with him. I think Trump's money was a means to an end, that end is being President of the United States, what else is there after that? There is no debtor's prison, and his children can't inherit his debt, and his creditors can't come after him in his afterlife. I do not think Trump became President in order to make money. Compared to Trump, Obama is a young guy, he has some living left to do in his retirement, he may want to make some money.

Actually, creditors can go after inheritors of an estate. So if Trump dies, who ever inherits Trumps stuff, inherits his debt. And you're not thinking like a businessman. Something as expensive as running for president is not a luxury to be purchased, it's an investment that requires return. Elect a billionaire businessman and that's what you get. He will find a way to get money out of being President, at least enough to recover what he paid for the election campaign.

Besides, my grandparents lived into their late 80s or early 90s. And medicine is getting better; he can certainly afford the best healthcare. Why assume he'll die as soon as he finishes office? After he completes one term (I doubt he'll be re-elected) he could live another 2 decades.

Tom Kalbfus wrote:

These words Trump can say, "...if you want something in return for your donation, your not getting it!"

We're not talking about political donations. Trump is unique, he paid for much of his election campaign with what he called his own money. This was not campaign donations. Yes, campaign donations are gone, they won't be paid back. But business loans and personal loans do have to be paid back.

Tom Kalbfus wrote:

As I keep saying, there is no political advantage to Trump paying back his contributors

You keep assuming he had contributors. He bragged that most of his campaign was paid from his own money, not political donations. Besides, you keep talking as if he's a politician. He doesn't care about politics or voters. He's a businessman. What matters is business investors in his business ventures, not voters.

Tom Kalbfus wrote:

It takes ethics in the first place for him to want to pay back his creditors, so why would he do something unethical and illegal to pay back his creditors because he thought that was the right thing to do? ... PT Barnum has a saying, "There is a sucker born every minute!" So maybe Trumps contributors were just suckers, is that possible? Trump has no reason to do anything illegal and unethical, and more importantly go to jail just to pay someone back because he feels he has a moral obligation to do so.

Again, you forget who you're talking about. Trump ran his entire business career with deceit and cheating business partners. He always exaggerated about what he had or what he could do. He often failed to pay bills or pay creditors. But declared bankruptcy many times, which means just not paying creditors. Eventually that caught up with him, he took a major loss and had to start over. But his ability to bilk creditors is limited; do it too much and investors will not loan you money, businessmen will stop doing business with you. More importantly, he paid for the election campaign with his own money. He's willing to renege on debts, but won't cheat himself. He will want his money back. One way or another, he will get his money back.

Tom Kalbfus wrote:

Yep, get rid of the GOP, and go back to the way things were in 1850!

You are willfully twisting what I said. I did not say the GOP should be destroyed. I'm saying the GOP will be damaged by Trump. And may be damaged so badly that it cannot recover.

Tom Kalbfus wrote:

No one is stopping SpaceX from going first, with its reusable rockets, SpaceX can fund itself, by undercutting its competition with rocket launches. SLS probably needs government support. Think of the SLS as an insurance policy.

Yes there is. The FAA now regulates commercial spaceflight. And the FAA is looking to NASA for guidance. NASA will not allow SpaceX to fly their Dragon spacecraft with crew until after Orion flies. It's not about money, it's about regulation. And NASA is showing bias toward their traditional contractors. NASA has also strongly supported SpaceX when those contractors tried to squash SpaceX like bug. But NASA sees Orion is their baby, so won't let Dragon fly with crew until after Orion.

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#853 2017-04-06 08:47:23

Tom Kalbfus
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That is a trivial matter, but if they can't get Orion to fly with a crew, I think Trump has limited patience, he will let SpaceX fly a crewed mission if he thinks the contractors are simply padding their bottom line Trump doesn't care about them, what he does is in order to get some cooperation from Congress. Congress cares about those contractors, Trump does not. Congress's willingness to fund SLS is limited, all SpaceX has to do is keep and launching and recycling its rockets, to show how congress is wasting Taxpayer's money, and eventually taxpayers will demand an accounting for the money spent. That is Musk's plan!

Trump by the way did not self fund his campaign, he spent very little of his own money, the money of his he did spend was spent frugally. Trump does not waste his own money, every dollar he spends as a specific purpose, he may like to build gawdy hotels, but he wouldn't build them if he didn't think he could earn a profit from them. Trump's apartment is designed to impress visitors, he has his own corner of it, that is more modestly furnished. People who waste their money do no usually stay billionaires for long.

I don't actually think Trump has to do much at all, he has billions, Trumps children are smart enough to capitalize on their father's fame, just like the Kennedy's did, they won't go without either. I wouldn't be surprised if any of the Trump children decide to run for political office as well, they don't need their father's wealth for that, they have their father's name, that is quite enough if they are smart! As I said before, Trump can't take it with him, he is not motivated by profit here, and his children are well taken care of, there is little Trump can do after he is dead anyway, if his children spendthrift it down to nothing and end their lives as destitute paupers, that is their decision, it is out of Trump's hands in that case! You know about Thomas Jefferson I suppose, he started out life inheriting plantation, used his position and influence to write the declaration of Independence, and was able to make himself President with his fame and his involvement in the American Revolution, but he died a poor man, he was not a good businessman!

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#854 2017-04-06 17:40:08

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Re: Politics

Rep. Devin Nunes steps away from Russia investigation amid ethics complaints and saw this as coming after running to the president and not going to the investigative board playing shield instead... So now here comes the other shoe in Ethics panel steps into spotlight with Nunes inquiry and no this will not stop as the investigation is to get to the bottom of the hacking, rusian swaying the election and more...American deserve an answer as there is No sign probes into Russia, Trump campaign will die down as House Intel Democrat congressman has hinted that the investigation with some Members of Trump Team Will GO TO JAIL....

Following President Donald Trump’s attacks on Mexico and his continued insistence on building that ridiculous wall of his, Mexico is planning to pivot its economy away from the U.S.  Mexico is looking to import goods, especially corn and soy, from a source other than the U.S., and both Brazil and Argentina are potential suppliers.

Civil war rages throughout Trump administration, Trump campaign staffers are squaring off against establishment GOP types in federal agencies — and the casualties are piling up.

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#855 2017-04-06 22:22:59

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Re: Politics

I keep seeing things that tell me others are reading what we post here on NewMars. Many in Canada were speculating about the current leadership race for the Conservative Party of Canada. That's Canadian equivalent to the Primary. Some media pundits have speculated that a couple Conservative candidates are the Canadian equivalent to Trump. I posted that it isn't the "next" leader, for us it's "been there, done that". I posted the Canadian equivalent is Brian Mulroney. So now the media is reporting the Liberal Party is talking to Brian Mulroney himself. That Mulroney is personal friends with Trump, so the Liberal Party of Canada is now using former Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney as their liaison to Trump. Uh huh. Not only is he Conservative, he's the individual who killed the Progressive Conservative party. This guy?!? Really?!? This guy?!?

CBC: Brian Mulroney to address key Canada-U.S. cabinet committee
CBC: Brian Mulroney speaks to Liberal cabinet on NAFTA

Well. At least that tells me someone in the Canadian government is reading what I post.

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#856 2017-04-07 09:05:17

Tom Kalbfus
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Re: Politics

SpaceNut wrote:

Rep. Devin Nunes steps away from Russia investigation amid ethics complaints and saw this as coming after running to the president and not going to the investigative board playing shield instead... So now here comes the other shoe in Ethics panel steps into spotlight with Nunes inquiry and no this will not stop as the investigation is to get to the bottom of the hacking, rusian swaying the election and more...American deserve an answer as there is No sign probes into Russia, Trump campaign will die down as House Intel Democrat congressman has hinted that the investigation with some Members of Trump Team Will GO TO JAIL....

Following President Donald Trump’s attacks on Mexico and his continued insistence on building that ridiculous wall of his, Mexico is planning to pivot its economy away from the U.S.  Mexico is looking to import goods, especially corn and soy, from a source other than the U.S., and both Brazil and Argentina are potential suppliers.

Civil war rages throughout Trump administration, Trump campaign staffers are squaring off against establishment GOP types in federal agencies — and the casualties are piling up.

Well maybe this will end this fake news about Russia and Trump. A quisling for Russia would not do this!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-ups-a … 16324.html

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#857 2017-04-07 09:10:46

Tom Kalbfus
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Re: Politics

RobertDyck wrote:

I keep seeing things that tell me others are reading what we post here on NewMars. Many in Canada were speculating about the current leadership race for the Conservative Party of Canada. That's Canadian equivalent to the Primary. Some media pundits have speculated that a couple Conservative candidates are the Canadian equivalent to Trump. I posted that it isn't the "next" leader, for us it's "been there, done that". I posted the Canadian equivalent is Brian Mulroney. So now the media is reporting the Liberal Party is talking to Brian Mulroney himself. That Mulroney is personal friends with Trump, so the Liberal Party of Canada is now using former Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney as their liaison to Trump. Uh huh. Not only is he Conservative, he's the individual who killed the Progressive Conservative party. This guy?!? Really?!? This guy?!?

CBC: Brian Mulroney to address key Canada-U.S. cabinet committee
CBC: Brian Mulroney speaks to Liberal cabinet on NAFTA

Well. At least that tells me someone in the Canadian government is reading what I post.

Brian Mulroney may be friends with Trump, Trump makes it his personal business to make friends with local politicians to help him do business, but Brian Mulroney is nothing like Trump, for one thing Trump is a political outsider, while Brian Mulroney is a political insider, that is not to say there is anything wrong with Brian Mulroney, but they are not anything alike.

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#858 2017-04-07 09:13:59

RobertDyck
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Re: Politics

Tom Kalbfus wrote:

Brian Mulroney may be friends with Trump, Trump makes it his personal business to make friends with local politicians to help him do business, but Brian Mulroney is nothing like Trump, for one thing Trump is a political outsider, while Brian Mulroney is a political insider, that is not to say there is anything wrong with Brian Mulroney, but they are not anything alike.

When Mulroney started in 1984, he was just as much an outsider as Trump.

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#859 2017-04-07 22:59:35

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Tom the Russia Trump connection is not fake and more and more connections are being found...

Intel Committee Explains: “People Will End Up In Jail” For Trump/Russia Scandal as some Americans are chanting “lock them up” for their treasonous behavior.  Trump, Pence, Conway, Spicer, Bannon, Kushner, Sessions…every damn one of them. The Republicans are in the process of Making a Move To Protect Trump From Russian Scandal Investigation. This is the same group that Investigated Hillary Clinton for using a Private Email Server and potentially mishandling classified information, are not going to investigate the President and his staff, who have been proven beyond the shadow of a doubt to have had illegal communication with Russian intelligence.

This is also looking like Mitch McConnell has also been Found to Be Deeply Involved in Russian Cover-up as the “Intelligence agencies have identified individuals with connections to the Russian government who provided WikiLeaks with thousands of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and others, including Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, according to U.S. officials. Those officials described the individuals as actors known to the intelligence community and part of a wider Russian operation to boost Trump and hurt Clinton’s chances.” With a former FBI Agent Exposes Russians Paid Thousands of People To Spread Lies on Hillary Clinton.

Mike Flynn’s Russia Ties Just Got Worse, More Money Trails Found as Flynn failed to disclose payments he received from Kremlin funded Television network RT and two other firms with deep Russia connections. $100 Million Russian Money Trail Found, 63 People Involved as Russians do have invests with Trump, which is yet another reason that Americans deserve to see Trump’s tax returns. Is collusion with Russians Trump’s main reason for refusing to release his tax returns?

Computer Scientist Explodes Trump’s Russian Bank Connection with New Records Investigators with the FBI are continuing to search for more information about server connections between computers from the Trump Organization and a Russian bank. There is still a lot to dig into and several dots to connected, but investigators are finding it “odd” that the server activity from a Russian Bank and the Trump Organization is happening at such a high frequency.

President Donald Trump's decision to launch airstrikes against a Syrian air base, saying the president "has an obligation to act." Republican SLAMS Trump for Striking Syrian Air Base, Says Trump ‘Violated’ the Constitution by going around Congress and order the strike without congressional approval. Rubio also affirmed the president's authority to act without seeking the approval of Congress, in contrast to the view of some of his Capitol Hill colleagues. Tillerson: Russia 'complicit' or 'incompetent' with Syria referring to Moscow's apparent inability to prevent the Syrian government from using chemical weapons earlier this week despite a 2013 agreement to remove them from the country.

Nancy Pelosi calls on GOP to immediately reconvene Congress after U.S. strikes “The President’s action and any response demands that we immediately do our duty,” Pelosi added. “Congress must live up to its Constitutional responsibility to debate an Authorization of the Use of Military Force against a sovereign nation.”
Russia outraged over U.S. missile strikes in Syria

Trump Voters’ Homes Ending Up on Mexico Side, “If I Have to Get a Lawyer, I Will” More and more people living near the proposed wall on the US/Mexico border are upset by how the plans are rolling out.  A strong majority of these people are conservative Republicans, and many of them voted for Donald Trump for President, but more and more they’re regretting that decision. One such person is Pat Bell of River Bend, Texas house will end up on the Mexico side, and this is unacceptable to her.

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#860 2017-04-07 23:16:47

Tom Kalbfus
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Re: Politics

RobertDyck wrote:
Tom Kalbfus wrote:

Brian Mulroney may be friends with Trump, Trump makes it his personal business to make friends with local politicians to help him do business, but Brian Mulroney is nothing like Trump, for one thing Trump is a political outsider, while Brian Mulroney is a political insider, that is not to say there is anything wrong with Brian Mulroney, but they are not anything alike.

When Mulroney started in 1984, he was just as much an outsider as Trump.

You just stated that he has been in politics since 1984, that is a long time to be in politics! Mulroney climbed the political ladder, for Trump the first rung was the Presidency, and he is already past retirement age for most people, I don't think he plans to do anything else afterwards, it is all about his legacy, do you really think he would jeopardize that? Do you think you are smarter than Donald J. Trump?

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#861 2017-04-07 23:30:27

Tom Kalbfus
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Re: Politics

SpaceNut wrote:

Tom the Russia Trump connection is not fake and more and more connections are being found...

Intel Committee Explains: “People Will End Up In Jail” For Trump/Russia Scandal as some Americans are chanting “lock them up” for their treasonous behavior.  Trump, Pence, Conway, Spicer, Bannon, Kushner, Sessions…every damn one of them. The Republicans are in the process of Making a Move To Protect Trump From Russian Scandal Investigation. This is the same group that Investigated Hillary Clinton for using a Private Email Server and potentially mishandling classified information, are not going to investigate the President and his staff, who have been proven beyond the shadow of a doubt to have had illegal communication with Russian intelligence.

This is also looking like Mitch McConnell has also been Found to Be Deeply Involved in Russian Cover-up as the “Intelligence agencies have identified individuals with connections to the Russian government who provided WikiLeaks with thousands of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and others, including Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, according to U.S. officials. Those officials described the individuals as actors known to the intelligence community and part of a wider Russian operation to boost Trump and hurt Clinton’s chances.” With a former FBI Agent Exposes Russians Paid Thousands of People To Spread Lies on Hillary Clinton.

Mike Flynn’s Russia Ties Just Got Worse, More Money Trails Found as Flynn failed to disclose payments he received from Kremlin funded Television network RT and two other firms with deep Russia connections. $100 Million Russian Money Trail Found, 63 People Involved as Russians do have invests with Trump, which is yet another reason that Americans deserve to see Trump’s tax returns. Is collusion with Russians Trump’s main reason for refusing to release his tax returns?

Computer Scientist Explodes Trump’s Russian Bank Connection with New Records Investigators with the FBI are continuing to search for more information about server connections between computers from the Trump Organization and a Russian bank. There is still a lot to dig into and several dots to connected, but investigators are finding it “odd” that the server activity from a Russian Bank and the Trump Organization is happening at such a high frequency.

President Donald Trump's decision to launch airstrikes against a Syrian air base, saying the president "has an obligation to act." Republican SLAMS Trump for Striking Syrian Air Base, Says Trump ‘Violated’ the Constitution by going around Congress and order the strike without congressional approval. Rubio also affirmed the president's authority to act without seeking the approval of Congress, in contrast to the view of some of his Capitol Hill colleagues. Tillerson: Russia 'complicit' or 'incompetent' with Syria referring to Moscow's apparent inability to prevent the Syrian government from using chemical weapons earlier this week despite a 2013 agreement to remove them from the country.

Congress doesn't have to approve every strike, Congress isn't competent to run a war, and the war has been going on since 2001, the authorization was already made after the 9/11 attack. Syria is in the area where we are fighting terrorism. When our enemies give up and stop attacking us, then the war is over. We can't just unilaterally declare the war over and say every new attack is a new war. The Enemy keeps the war alive, he attacks us at home, there is no place we can withdraw to where he will not follow! So you are saying the President needs special authorization to defend the American People, and that he should do nothing and let Americans be killed otherwise? The way I read the Constitution is that Congress must approve all wars that we start, the Enemy does not wait for Congress to approve their Jihad before attacking us and killing Americans.
Defending the American people after an attack is an automatic action, that includes going out and destroying the enemy. if there is no war and the US President wants to start one, the that requires Congressional Approval. Now we are helping some rebels attack ISIS, and the Syrian government just decided to attack those same rebels with Poison gas, and they are aligned with Iran, a country that has declared war on us many many times since 1979. Anyone who aligns with our Enemy is also our Enemy and has become part of the War, and we can thus attack them without Congressional Approval. There are very few instances where Amerian actually started a war, where there wasn't a war before.

Nancy Pelosi calls on GOP to immediately reconvene Congress after U.S. strikes “The President’s action and any response demands that we immediately do our duty,” Pelosi added. “Congress must live up to its Constitutional responsibility to debate an Authorization of the Use of Military Force against a sovereign nation.”
Russia outraged over U.S. missile strikes in Syria

Trump Voters’ Homes Ending Up on Mexico Side, “If I Have to Get a Lawyer, I Will” More and more people living near the proposed wall on the US/Mexico border are upset by how the plans are rolling out.  A strong majority of these people are conservative Republicans, and many of them voted for Donald Trump for President, but more and more they’re regretting that decision. One such person is Pat Bell of River Bend, Texas house will end up on the Mexico side, and this is unacceptable to her.

The News media is showing lots of investigative activity, but no results. There are a lot of people actively looking for UFOs as well, but that doesn't mean they are out there.

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#862 2017-04-07 23:59:04

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SpaceNut,

If you think anybody on President Trump's team is going to jail, then you really are living on a different planet than the rest of us are.  If Secretary Clinton wasn't prosecuted for storing classified information on her personal E-Mail server, then what do you think the odds are that President Trump or his staff will be prosecuted for saying things you don't like, talking to people you don't like, or doing business with people you don't like?

The DNI, with input from the FBI and CIA, have written a report and made official statements under oath in front of Congress testifying to the fact that they found no evidence of President Trump's collusion with Russia.  If the best intelligence agencies on the planet can't find any evidence that supports your suspicions, then maybe it's because there's none to be found.  If President Trump is a Russian agent, then I'm the Queen of England.

The Democrats continue to claim that there is evidence, which they have not produced up to this point, that President Trump's election campaign staff, transition team staff, or even President Trump himself colluded with Russia to corrupt the election.  The Democrat Party must either deliver actual tangible evidence to support their conspiracy theory or admit that their innuendo, intimations, and outright lies regarding President Trump's collusion with the Russians was nothing more than politically motivated false accusations intended to interfere with the operation of the Executive branch of the federal government because they don't personally like the man running it.

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#863 2017-04-08 07:27:24

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And to top it off, people can die if President Trump does not operate effectively! Give Trump a bad day as President of the United States and people often die to make that happen. So if a military operation comes off as a success, the Democrats groan, but if soldiers come home in body bags and their are lots of military funerals, then the Democrats cheer and say, "I told you so!"

Also the Democrats think the only choice besides Trump and the Republicans are themselves, that is incorrect. I think if the Republicans and Trump do a terrible job, the American people can turn to a third party. Many conservatives within the Republican Party are getting frustrated with their party elites. Trump has also surrounded himself with a lot of liberal democrats within his administration, some of them are family members, this means he can soak up Democratic voters at he expense of the Democrats, gain support from liberal Republicans within his own Party, the Conservative can start their own Party, the Tea Party and challenge him from the right, and the American People won't go back to the Democrats, as they have proved themselves as not interested in advancing America's agenda, but only their careers and their anti-American ideology at America's expense. Obama's father was a Marxist, he attended the Church of Reverend Wright for 20 years, and the Democrats thought that was swell and nominated him to be their Presidential candidate anyway, so the evidence is all there! Trump has shown a way to be liberal without being Anti-American, the Democrats have forgotten how to do this, so they follow the latest international trends in left-wing thinking and blame America for everything wrong in the World, which is not going to get them elcted to anything once the American people realize this!

Trump is closer to the political ideology of FDR, TR, and John F. Kennedy, than are the modern Democrats today. Trump could very well be challenged from the right, if the Democrats continue with their anti-America diatribe blaming America for all that is wrong with the world, that was Obama's ideology, and it made him a terrible President.

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#864 2017-04-08 19:57:02

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I hope you are going to like the new levels of costs for the security of this administration as its coming from all the cuts to agency fundings but its still going to cause the tax rates to increase for less services.

The education security is costing about $1 million a month. The Marshals Service has hired about two dozen guards for her security detail. That includes 20 positions at from $95,000 to $123,000 each annually and two at an annual salary of $112,000 to $146,000.

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#865 2017-04-08 20:10:55

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That generally happens when you are at war, and also not providing security, which is what Obama did, costs less that providing it. Obama labeled a number of domestic terrorist attacks as workplace violence, and you know what, we are not going to win the war on terrorism just by increasing security at the airports or building a wall, we are going to have to go out and defeat them where they live! $1 million a month is not a lot of money to spend to secure the wife and son of the had of state of the most powerful country on Earth, I would expect a lot of money to be spent on that, and if we are being cheap on our President's security, we are doing something wrong. The President of the United States, is at least the equal to any Emperor of any large state or Empire that has ever existed, and while he is in office, he should have as much security as he needs. Having a President or his family assassinated would cost the country more than just providing adequate protection.

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#866 2017-04-08 21:43:49

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SpaceNut wrote:

I hope you are going to like the new levels of costs for the security of this administration as its coming from all the cuts to agency fundings but its still going to cause the tax rates to increase for less services.

The security costs associated with protecting politicians do not come from the budgets of other agencies that are not already in the business of protecting our politicians and never have.  This is a laughably poor attempt to try to suggest that the cost of President Trump's security detail detracts from the budgets of other governmental agencies.  The US Secret Service doesn't quit working just because you don't like the President.

SpaceNut wrote:

The education security is costing about $1 million a month. The Marshals Service has hired about two dozen guards for her security detail. That includes 20 positions at from $95,000 to $123,000 each annually and two at an annual salary of $112,000 to $146,000.

President Obama's children also had dozens of agents assigned to their security details.  Why didn't you complain about that?

There are two principle reasons why there protecting the President costs so much.  The first is preventing kidnappings of family members by foreign countries or terrorists to use as bargaining chips.  The second is assuring our ability to deliver nuclear weapons if we are attacked by a foreign country.  Between the two, maintaining the continuous ability to deliver nuclear weapons makes the cost of the first hardly worth mentioning.

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#867 2017-04-16 17:04:19

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The alternate truth about the Trump's executive orders don't always fulfill bold claims

Such as the pipes that were supposed to be made in the USA for the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipeline projects as the truth is it would be unfair, for the TransCanada, company building the line, as it had long ago bought its pipe, some of it made in the U.S., and the rest in Canada, Italy and India.

This is also false as Trump claims immunity as president from protesters' lawsuit as not even the president is above the law.....

Tax Day protesters across US demand Trump release tax returns as part of taxation reform but all Trump wants to hear is the Election is over......Trump's break with precedent has raised questions about possible conflicts of interest.

The documents seen by CIA director denounces Wikileaks, a group Trump has praised but by Director Mike Pompeo as a "hostile intelligence service"

President Trump changes stance on 4 campaign positions in just 1 day as Wednesday, President Trump declared that China is not a currency manipulator, entertained the possibility of re-appointing Janet Yellen as chair of the Federal Reserve, asserted that NATO is a relevant alliance and expressed a favorable view of the Export-Import Bank. Then there is this Border wall could leave some Americans on 'Mexican side' which is picking up some heat on as why we would do this to American is grabbing hold.

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#868 2017-04-17 00:53:07

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SpaceNut wrote:

The alternate truth about the Trump's executive orders don't always fulfill bold claims

Such as the pipes that were supposed to be made in the USA for the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipeline projects as the truth is it would be unfair, for the TransCanada, company building the line, as it had long ago bought its pipe, some of it made in the U.S., and the rest in Canada, Italy and India.

This is also false as Trump claims immunity as president from protesters' lawsuit as not even the president is above the law.....

Tax Day protesters across US demand Trump release tax returns as part of taxation reform but all Trump wants to hear is the Election is over......Trump's break with precedent has raised questions about possible conflicts of interest.

If given a choice, would you rather see Trump's tax returns or would you rather have tax cuts? Would you also like to see a picture of Donald Trump naked? Maybe we should protest until Donald Trump releases pictures of himself naked, would you like that? Thissue seems pretty stupid to me! How come all these people want to see Trump's taxes, are they a bunch of voyeurs? Are they a bunch of busy bodies minding other people's business? Would you like a list of all of Ivanka and Tifany  Trumps boyfriends? what other private stuff of the Trump family would you like to see?

The documents seen by CIA director denounces Wikileaks, a group Trump has praised but by Director Mike Pompeo as a "hostile intelligence service"

Is it the job of the CIA to spy on the opposition presidential candidates and their campaign staffs? Excuse me but this is what police states do! Do you want Trump to order the CIA to spy on the Democratic Presidential candidates, is this now standard operating procedure?

President Trump changes stance on 4 campaign positions in just 1 day as Wednesday, President Trump declared that China is not a currency manipulator, entertained the possibility of re-appointing Janet Yellen as chair of the Federal Reserve, asserted that NATO is a relevant alliance and expressed a favorable view of the Export-Import Bank. Then there is this Border wall could leave some Americans on 'Mexican side' which is picking up some heat on as why we would do this to American is grabbing hold.

So? Maybe if Putin didn't allow Syria to use poison gas, Trump wouldn't have changed his position on NATO. You see Putin is not behaving nice. I kind of think North Korea developing nukes and missiles is a tad more important. Trump is a negotiator, he is prepared to be flexible in exchange for action on China's part in making North Korea behave itself. Do you have something against this?

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#869 2017-04-22 19:00:08

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This is the promissed jobs tat Trump campaigned about as Stores are closing at an epic pace

This week it was Bebe. Last month it was Staples. In February it was JCPenney... and you can continue to add to this list as some of the Payless shoe stores are closing, Radioshack stores, and Macy's is shutting down 68 locations plus Kmart / sears as well are looking to close some locations as well....

Negative job growth continues.....

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#870 2017-04-22 19:31:16

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That's the internet for you. The Internet tends to cut out the middleman, in the future, people will order direct from factories have them delivered by mail through the internet. there will be warehouses which store groceries for order, trucks from canning packaging facilities, slaughterhouses and farms will deliver to these warehouses, other smaller trucks will deliver these groceries from the warehouses to people's homes, or else there will be stores with no cashiers for groceries, people will pick up their groceries, put them on a cart and walk out the door. The trucks will have no drivers, robots would unload these trucks and put the merchandise on shelves, security guards will guard the stores to make sure nothing is stolen. Store jobs is not where the future is, that is the past, and there is nothing Donald Trump can or should do bout it!

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#871 2017-04-27 21:38:35

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In his latest assault on protections for federal lands, president Donald Trump has just signed an executive order that calls For The Elimination Of National Parks To Allow Oil And Gas Drilling...more greed

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#872 2017-04-28 06:02:51

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Trump said he wants to cancel NAFTA. He claims the president of Mexico and Prime Minister of Canada asked him to renegotiate rather than cancel it. Asshole. Obvious negotiating ploy. And I don't think he can cancel it without approval from Congress. It would certainly do harm to the US economy. The country each state exports most to, for 35 states it's Canada.
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#873 2017-05-01 03:23:48

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SpaceNut wrote:

In his latest assault on protections for federal lands, president Donald Trump has just signed an executive order that calls For The Elimination Of National Parks To Allow Oil And Gas Drilling...more greed

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Yes, I am greedy, I like to keep my money when I go to fill my gas tank at the pump, and I don't like to give to Arab charities such as Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, or the Islamic Brotherhood, that is why I like to develop domestic sources of energy! How exactly did the Federal Government acquire this land in the first place? By declaring them "National Monuments" by Presidential Fiat? You understand that most of the land out West is owned by the Federal Government and was acquired by this means? You also understand that the Federal Government has $20 Trillion in debt? What happens if the Federal Government sells this land to pay off he debt? Then it can balance its budget without raising taxes, maybe even cut taxes and grow the economy for a change, then we can fund an ambitious space program!

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#874 2017-05-09 08:08:45

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Again, let's try to make the best of the current situation. Trump is President, no matter what your political stripe. Can we work with him? I saw Trump say he wants to send humans to Mars, and that NASA will have to speed up is current schedule. Yea! The man wants all the glory, so that implies he wants a human on Mars within his presidency. Assuming he gets re-elected in 2020 (please don't start) so he actually sits 2 full terms, that means election for the next president will be November 2024. So he will want human footprints on red soil before that. Yes, inauguration will be January 2025, but he will want it before the next guy gets the spotlight. Can we work with Trump to make that happen?

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#875 2017-05-09 20:15:13

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Too many Democrats are still hoping for Impeachment as a means of replacing our President, they are not sure about of what to Impeach him for, there are fruitless investigations going on of his ties to the Russians, but it is turning out that it is entirely fiction, and it is making it difficult for the President to attempt to reduce tensions between the US and Russia if the Democrats continue this "witch hunt!" Vladimir Putin has not made it easy for Trump either, with his support of dictators that use chemical weapons, and for th threatening maneuvers of Russian aircraft and ships with respect to US and NATO territory. you have to admit, Putin has not tried very hard to get along with us and live a peaceful existence. Democrats, until recently, we defending Putin's aggressive and imperialistic foreign policy, but they can't really do o now while at the same time accusing Donald Trump of being unduly influenced by the Russians! I bet a lot of Democrats would like to, but they want to attack Trump. Once it is proven that Russian influence I baseless, they'll get back down to defending our hostile enemies and adversaries, finding excuses to justify their every offensive move. But Putin is finding this frustrating as well, the press isn't defending them as much as they used to, because they are too busy attacking Trump, and its hard to do both at the same time.

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