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#51 2023-09-09 17:40:15

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Maybe this relates to MTO

Its sometimes trends on social media utubes, facebooks, etc
lidar form a laser remote sensing system

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cw5rGvXPEtA/

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#52 2023-09-13 10:52:23

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The ice under the UK's Halley research station in Antarctica has rapidly increased in speed following the calving of big bergs. The base (currently unoccupied) is in no immediate danger but Sentinel1a can see new rifts in the ice.

https://twitter.com/BBCAmos/status/1701926821976055872


Mars will need robot doctors?


An Australian who fell ill while working at an Antarctic research station is now in a hospital in Australia

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/ap-a … 08616.html

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#53 2023-09-23 03:17:07

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These scientists live like astronauts without leaving Earth

https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/0 … ing-earth/

Around the world, researchers are locked away in simulated space habitats in remote locations


The other polar region a 2012 documentary film about the efforts of nature photographer James Balog and his Extreme Ice Survey (EIS) to publicize the effects of climate change, Greenland and a movie 'Chasing Ice'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC3VTgIPoGU

"CHASING ICE" captures largest glacier calving ever filmed



Korea to build Antarctica's 6th inland station by 2030

https://koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/202 … 40482.html

About 277.4 billion won ($205 million) will be spent by 2027 to construct the 15,000-ton Araon 2, the latest model of the icebreaker research vessel Araon built in 2009.

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#54 2023-10-28 07:03:45

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Ancient landscape discovered beneath East Antarctic Ice Sheet?
https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Anci … t_999.html

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#55 2023-11-01 08:56:52

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A new pilotless plane is ready for testing in Antarctica
https://sciencex.com/wire-news/46022786 … ctica.html

IceCube Observatory creates first map of Milky Way without using electromagnetic waves
https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/IceC … s_999.html

A ‘once every 7.5 million years’ event is currently unfolding in Antarctica: ‘To say unprecedented isn’t strong enough’
https://ca.yahoo.com/news/once-every-7- … 00122.html

internet questions

Before we build a Mars colony, why don't we build a 100% self-sustainable test colony in the Antarctic?
https://space.stackexchange.com/questio … ble-test-c
Asked 8 days ago

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#56 2023-11-01 09:24:49

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For Mars_B4_Moon re Post #55

Thank you for the links in #55, and specifically for the Stack Exchange debate ... The long series of replies concluded with a thoughtful reply from someone who might be associated with the Mars Society.  I thought the entire series was worth reading, with various degrees of understanding reflected in the text.

I am persuaded by the concluding argument, that the extreme conditions of the antarctic are not needed, and the existing desert facilities (around the world) can be enhanced to approach closer and closer to self-sufficiency.

One poster listed off the existing remote outposts which are (presumably) contributing to knowledge suitable for the Mars effort.

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#57 2023-11-23 10:17:12

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the issue of delays and sickness

After Pandemic Hiatus, America's Only Heavy Coast Guard Icebreaker Returning to Antarctica

https://www.military.com/daily-news/202 … ctica.html

The ship will carry a team of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration scientists on board who will survey McMurdo's Winter Quarters Bay and also test a hydroponic garden system to see whether crew members can grow fruits and vegetables aboard the ship, according to Woityra.

With the McMurdo mission canceled last year, the Polar Star crew of 134 deployed instead to the Arctic for a show of American presence in the region, as well as to test communications equipment and conduct training exercises.

The mission was the first time a Coast Guard cutter had traveled north of the Arctic Circle during the winter in nearly 40 years.

To prepare for this year's Antarctica mission, the 46-year old vessel has been in drydock, part of a service-life extension project designed to make it last another decade as the Coast Guard builds the first of three new heavy icebreakers under the Polar Security Cutter program.

Some of the ship's systems are new, and some are refurbished and repurposed from Polar Star's sister vessel, Polar Sea, kept in drydock for donor parts.

This year, when Polar Star suffered a "major casualty" of its emergency generator -- "it spun out of control and basically ate itself," Woityra said -- Polar Sea supplied the replacement, a system that otherwise would have taken 18 months to fabricate.

"We sent it out to be cleaned and refurbished, and now it's good to go," Woityra said.

VT Halter Marine in Pascagoula, Mississippi, was selected to build the first Polar Security Cutter, with construction expected to begin this year. The first of the $745 million, 460-foot vessels is expected to be delivered in 2024.

Meanwhile, Woityra's crew will work to ensure that Polar Star can carry on the McMurdo resupply mission for at least the next three years. It's not an easy task, the commanding officer said, considering the age of the vessel and its parts.

In 2019, Polar Star had a fire onboard during Operation Deep Freeze -- a blaze in the garbage incinerator that took the crew two hours to put out. The incinerator was destroyed, but the crew managed to keep the fire from spreading.

But with many of the systems, including the incinerator, having been upgraded, Woityra said the ship is in better shape "than it's been in a decade."

The crew getting underway is 100% vaccinated against COVID-19 and has been since May. More than half are new to the ship, and fewer than one-third have ever made the trip to Antarctica.

Many of the 42 "non-rates" -- Coast Guard members who have not yet gone to a school for a professional specialty -- postponed applying to school so they could make the trip.

This will be Woityra's fifth journey to Antarctica and, likely, his last.

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#58 2023-11-29 09:08:21

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November 2023 note: This is a revised version of the original website that was first posted – from Antarctica – in 1996.
https://astrobiology.com/2023/11/dale-a … lbums.html
Antarctic Photo Albums

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#59 2023-12-14 04:05:40

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Critical AAD resupply mission to deliver Christmas magic to Casey Station crew
https://www.themercury.com.au/news/tasm … 6cfa94cf13
A crucial Antarctic mission is underway to deliver more than just supplies to Casey Research Station

2013 video Concordia station in Antarctica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbpMa5cXjp8

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#60 2023-12-26 09:51:00

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Maybe not so far away after all

9 passenger airliners that have landed on Antarctica's rugged runways made out of blue ice
https://news.yahoo.com/9-passenger-airl … 03408.html

Every year, hundreds of scientists, athletes, and tourists travel to Antarctica on passenger jetliners.

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#61 2023-12-27 13:45:13

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gossip about ownership and human egos

Rothschild Island named for banking family, not owned by it | Fact check
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac … 884578007/
" They bought an island off the coast of Antarctica."

A black rugged island 39 kilometres (24 mi) long

Some Russo-Germanic-Franco-Russian guy spots the island in the early 1800s but then a French guy arrives over a hundred years later? and France man claims to have first 'discovered' it and this is while the age of Kings and Dynasty coming to an end but a French guy named it after Baron Édouard de Rothschild an aristocrat, French financier and a member of the prominent Rothschild banking family when perhaps the French guy could easily have named it after himself. However perhaps this banker man and influence money invements and and gold and property, it was for a time owned by the Vichy Government, this mansion is now home to the United States Embassy, did he leave some pictures with spy holes in the paintings on the walls, another building linked in Paris right next to it was inhabited by writer James Fenimore Cooper a linked building was once an apartment for Marie-Antoinette?


maybe it could be stranger, it could be ruled by a Turkic dictator?


Unbelievable Facts About Turkmenistan, the Dystopian Dictatorship You Haven't Heard Of
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/unb … rd-of.html

'He took the name for bread. And changed it to the name of his mother.'

renamed the months of the year and the days of the week. After himself


search an old record of climate science continues

Scientists in Antarctica search for oldest ice to research climate change
https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/video/s … te-change/

NSF director: US Antarctic research has national impact
https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/12 … al-impact/

India aims to commission new research station in Antarctica by 2029, says Kiren Rijiju
https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/in … id/1988478

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#62 2023-12-30 18:09:18

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Antarctic Octopus Holds Secrets of Prehistoric Ice Loss in Its Genome
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti … ts-genome/

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#63 2024-02-12 08:22:47

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Could you survive an Antarctic blizzard looking for mud? These scientists had no choice
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/clim … 5f34g.html

Mars is unlike Earth but the Moon is very unlike Mars

Some Analogues examined Cold and dry and places high on top of mountains with lower air pressure and higher isolation from civilizations, an examination of toxic dust Oxidizing surfaces in sandy deserts, the hyper-arid core of the high Atacama desert, Axel Heiberg Island Canada the Canadian ice caves, Movile Cave Romania and the mines of South Africa, icy fumaroles of Mount Erebus, sulphur rich regions hot springs, or mineral deposits of the Rio Tinto region in Spain and the McMurdo dry valleys in Antarctica approaching the dryness of current Mars surface conditions, high balloon flights with UV levels and higher radiation and temperature swings.

NASA's Mars-like habitat where 4 astronaut-like volunteers will live for a year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf0OMzhv9-s

There are also a bunch of other vids on social media like the tik toks

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Norwegian Cruise Line passengers claim Antarctica voyage was rerouted mid-trip
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Travel/norwe … =107222296
Passengers took to social media to share their disappointment and frustration.

Luxury £63m cruise ship which took rich tourists on antarctic tours lies abandoned in paradise after accident at sea
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/25586853/ … -paradise/
FOR 24 years, the wreck of a great Antarctic-exploring cruise ship has been left to rot in a Pacific paradise.

video

ESA-sponsored Concordia research stations

researching the effects of long space missions

Isolation in Antarctica |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOVjs_zNNwc
European Space Agency

How can Australia can be a member of the Antarctic Treaty while still making a territorial claim in the region?
https://politics.stackexchange.com/ques … making-a-t

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How Antarctica’s history of isolation is ending—thanks to Starlink
https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/0 … -internet/

Operation Deep Freeze archive film, International agreements. The impetus behind Operation Deep Freeze I was the International Geophysical Year 1957–58. IGY as it was known was a collaborative effort among forty nations to carry out earth science studies from the North Pole to the South Pole and at points in between. The United States along with New Zealand, the United Kingdom, France, Japan, Norway, Chile, Argentina, and the U.S.S.R. agreed to go to the South Pole, the least explored area on Earth. Their goal was to advance world knowledge of Antarctic hydrography and weather systems, glacial movements, and marine life.
The U.S. Navy was charged with supporting the U.S. scientists for their portion of the IGY studies. Rear Admiral Richard E. Byrd, a veteran of four previous Antarctic Expeditions, was appointed as officer in charge of the expedition.

ANTARCTIC NUCLEAR REACTOR AT McMURDO STATION 26042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSmQ7TUowao

U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Polar Star completes Operation Deep Freeze 2024 mission, departs Antarctica
https://seapowermagazine.org/u-s-coast- … ntarctica/
The U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Polar Star (WAGB 10) and crew departed McMurdo Station

Shackleton: The Greatest Story of Survival
https://www.moviefone.com/movie/shackle … 0MC1/main/

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Chinese scientists use machine learning for precise Antarctic sea ice prediction
https://www.apdnews.com/article/09a56cb

A history of McMurdo Station through its architecture
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals … 7E170B3B38

The wealth of information embedded in the history of the buildings on Ross Island is a valuable resource for those seeking to improve the living and working conditions through the built environment. Unfortunately, until now, a publicly available, single source of architectural information has not existed. Demands on human habitations have grown from those of a few dozen explorers to several hundred scientists and contract employees. During this time the buildings have advanced from imported wooden huts with little or no ventilation control, to imported steel-framed structures with massive HVAC systems. The complexities presented by this station are compounded by its remoteness, size and architectural legacy. Approaching a new, comprehensive design is daunting. Therefore, it is important to be prepared with knowledge of the specific challenges and cold-region best practices (that is, the mechanical and structural demands of a remote cold desert, ways to promote energy efficiency without sacrificing occupant comfort, and the effects of isolated environments on human behaviour). There are many parameters to apply to new developments at McMurdo Station, but they are beyond the scope of this article. An architectural history of the station is one tool. Understanding and documenting the history of the station's architectural evolution should remain a priority for any current and future plans.


Vehicles engineering and technology
https://www.bas.ac.uk/polar-operations/ … /vehicles/
From the early days of polar science and exploration vehicles have been an essential part of Antarctic and Arctic life. British Antarctic Survey operates a large fleet of wheeled and tracked vehicles to support its science and research stations activities.


Milk on ice: Antarctic time capsule of whole milk powder sheds light on the enduring qualities--and evolution--of dairy products past and present
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 … 124542.htm
In a remarkable discovery, whole milk powder manufactured in New Zealand in 1907 and transported to Antarctica with explorers seeking the South Pole was unveiled after more than a century.

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Some videos from well known stations,

Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station, Antarctica, our ECW - Extreme Cold Weather gear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxpy2rvtllM
Japan Showa in Japanese with music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9mTiO6SFEU
British Station - Tour Rothera Antarctic research station by drone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzWdxeXVIfY
Zucchelli Terra Nova Bay in Italian language but with music from British Rock Band Queen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL8FKpvg300
aerial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0jGa7NKMXE
Kerguelen visite de la base Port aux francais
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOhj9gtZl6A
Marambio Island Argentina in Spanish video Instituto Antartico Argentino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNYUtbeD7Tg
Australia - Stars and auroras at Casey station Antarctica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K9uZn93Bz8
Soviet / Russian buildings - What's it like in the coldest place on Earth; Vostok station in Antarctica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNjUlTu4hBU
Chile - Villa Las Estrellas An Actual Town in Antarctica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0gnZtjW-eE

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Greeks on Mars? but Europe / ESA has no manned vessel

and yet maybe one day a Graeco-Phrygian Hellenic Mycenaean New Testament Greece Byzantine Greek language on Mars?

Adrianos Golemis named as the first Greek to pass ESA tests to become an astronaut
https://www.euronews.com/next/2024/03/2 … astronauts

Astronuats have mostly been French, German, British and also from Italy, Denmark, Sweden, Switzerland, Spain, Netherlands. During the USSR era 'Ten' went on Soviet flight, 10 Europeans became astronauts within the Soviet Union's Interkosmos program, Helen Sharman, a British chemist and astronaut who became the first British person, first Western European woman and first privately funded woman in space, as well as the first woman to visit the Mir space station, she was selected in a process that gave weight to scientific, educational and aerospace backgrounds, as well as the ability to learn a foreign language.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1990 … glo-soviet

NASA trained and flew astronauts from allied nations on the Space Shuttle, Leonid Kadeniuk  was the first astronaut of independent Ukraine to fly into outer space, NASA trained many Europeans especially as payload specialists for scientific missions such as Spacelab, in fact NASA may have helped to build the modern ESA Astronaut Corp

ESA / European Astronauts also fly on SpaceX

Greece at the South Pole

in year 2013
https://blogs.esa.int/concordia/2013/10 … -the-base/

European Space Agency (ESA) flight surgeon Adrianos Golemis, seen here in a Mars simulation suit (designed to simulate crewed missions to the red planet), monitors the well-being of astronauts before and during spaceflight as well as during their rehabilitation after their return

https://www.ekathimerini.com/society/11 … d-control/

Golemis has been working as a member of the European Space Agency’s medical team since 2018 and is based out of Cologne. In 2019, just after completing his training, he was assigned as the second doctor of Italian astronaut Luca Parmitano’s mission and now he has just finished monitoring 43-year-old Pesquet on his most recent mission. “Aerospace medicine is not a recognized specialty in most European countries. Joining the ESA is a combination of effort and luck, there is no predetermined route,” he says.

He studied medicine at the Aristotle University of Thessaloniki and later finished his postgraduate degree at the International Space University in Strasbourg.

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Food that helps feed more than 1,000 at Antarctic research bases for a year procured by Elgin company
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/04/ … s-trading/

Ozone hole: Why Antarctic wildlife is being 'sunburnt’
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-68906013

On Earth there are no deserts as dry while cold, and many other mountains at similar 4,800 meters is equal to about 15,748 feet, the Atacama Desert in Chile is the driest nonpolar desert, we have similar elevations to the extremes of the South Pole, Mount Blanc of France Italy, Denali also known as Mount McKinley Alaska, Volcán Tajumulco in western Guatemala, Mount Fuji Japan, Grossglockner or just Glockner, Yu Shan or Yushan, also known as Mount Jade or Jade Mountain orTongku Saveq or Mount Niitaka during Japanese rule of Taiwan, Shkhara  the highest point in the country of Georgia, Mount Elbrus in Russia and Europe, the highest mountain in AustriaMount Aragats in Armenia, Pico Bolívar the highest mountain in Venezuela, Khüiten Peak or Friendship Mongolian, Dufourspitze of Monte Rosa Switzerland.

The most dry desert, the unique high mountain peaks, Mount Markham, Mount Vinson, Mount Tyree, the 'Dinosaur' mountain Mount Kirkpatrick, Vinson Massif a large mountain massif in Antarctica McMurdo Dry Valleys

'hike'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUtD6ARgx1w

'McMurdo Dry Valleys Helicopter Flight Antarctica'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odRYSKnXubg

Rare glimpse into Antarctic underwater world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD_MlZiZJuc

Unfrozen: Icefish of the Antarctic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dKB40hYlrs

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Near enough to home for a rescue or resupply

Defence called on for potential airdrop supply mission to Antarctic expeditioners after icebreaker's cargo cranes fail
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-25/ … /103764960

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What it’s really like to live in Antarctica
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/really- … 09200.html
A five-month-long slumber party. A college dorm. An introvert’s hell.

Those are just some of the words residents of Antarctica use to describe life in the world’s coldest, most mysterious continent.

In 1959, 12 countries - including Chile, Japan, Australia and the United States – signed the Antarctic Treaty, pledging that the seventh continent would only be used “for peaceful purposes only.” As a result, there are no military bases there, although military planes and ships can bring people and supplies.

That means that only a few thousand humans can say that they have lived in Antarctica.

And yet, despite bunking with strangers, taking 90-second showers and having zero privacy, there are intrepid travelers who believe all the challenges are worth it.

Keri Nelson is one of them.

The Minnesota native first went to the White Continent in 2007 to work as a janitor at McMurdo Base, one of the three US outposts there. Now a veteran of 16 Antarctica seasons, she has done stints at all three stations – in addition to McMurdo, the largest and most active, there are Amundsen-Scott Station at the geographic south pole, and Palmer Station, north of the Antarctic peninsula.

“If I was going to describe it in musical form,” Nelson says, “I would say McMurdo was like gritty, dirty bluegrass and South Pole was like symphony music and Palmer is like really corny, fun pop music.”
Summer camp for grownups

In the summer months from October to March there can be as many as 1,000 people at McMurdo Base, from scientists to carpenters to dishwashers. Many support staffers have multiple jobs.

For example, Evan Townsend, creator of the Antarctica Flag, worked in the kitchen, tended bar and managed the craft room during his stint there.

“It is an entire town,” Keri Nelson says of McMurdo. “You could go whole seasons and never meet a lot of people there, and it’s just very busy at those stations. It’s just bustle, bustle, bustle all the time.” That’s due to McMurdo’s size as the biggest base, but also due to the rotation of staff, since people will move between other stations or go out on expeditions and research trips throughout the season.

While there are some modern amenities – a room for watching DVDs, a craft room, a gym – the clubhouse feel of the base offers lots of opportunities for socializing. Nelson has organized fashion shows complete with a runway and played music in the “ice bands” that often form during a season.

Just three kilometers (two miles) from McMurdo is New Zealand’s Scott Base, and sometimes staffers will make the trip across Ross Island to visit their US counterparts – joining in on their jam sessions, book club meetings and movie marathons. Some staffers even volunteer to teach classes in yoga, languages or other interests.


Marissa Goerke Describes Life at Palmer Station in Antarctica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caDRQwnicXk

A research robot is living with a penguin colony in Antarctica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqEU_SksDio

'5 Years'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6m7Slj-fZE

Tomski, a Polish biologist who is one of the most experienced explorers

Henryk Arctowski Polish Antarctic Station

Lighthouses of Antarctica
https://www.ibiblio.org/lighthouse/ata.htm
Poland: Arctowski (King George Island, Point Thomas)
    Date unknown (scientific station established 1977). Active; focal plane 18 m (59 ft); white light, 3 s on, 6 s off. 11 m (36 ft) round cylindrical tower with a small lantern and gallery. The upper half of the light is painted white and the lower half red (the color pattern of the Polish flag). A photo is at right. The lighthouse was originally painted with red and white horizontal bands, as seen in Douglas Cameron's photo posted by Trabas, but it appeared all white in Ted Smith's 2007 photos. Wikimedia has several additional photos but the light is not seen in Google's satellite view. This lighthouse guides vessels to Poland's Henryk Arctowski station, located on the west side of Admiralty Bay. The station is staffed year round. This is one of the stations most frequently visited by Antarctic adventure cruises. Site and tower closed. Site manager: Polish Academy of Sciences

UPNA team produces geothermal power in Antarctica with thermoelectric tech
https://www.thinkgeoenergy.com/upna-tea … tric-tech/

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Defence completes C-17 Globemaster airdrop to resupply Mawson Station in Antarctica
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-02/ … /103918674


in relation to Space?

an old thread and one of the more notorious cases but most of what happened was on Earth
http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=5244
This event will continue to be stupid or be a story 15 years later, 16, 17, and 18 until a more 'crazy' event happens

it seems she was maybe aware of what she was doing but also maybe suffered some type of psychotic breakdown, but she never claimed 'insanity' in trial and was sentenced as part of a plea deal. The US Navy went after her from results of the NASA case, the US Navy has rules in regard to morals and cheating and because they had violated the Navy's rules prohibiting adultery. It was recommend Nowak be separated from the Navy with an other than honorable discharge and reduction in rank from captain to commander.  United States Assistant Secretary of the Navy Garcia said in a statement, "fell well short" of what is expected of Navy officers and "demonstrated a complete disregard for the well-being of a fellow service member"

over time as humans try to expand beyond Earth there might be more events even in Outer Space

Why am I lonely? Lack of social connections hurts Americans' mental health.
https://usatoday.com/story/opinion/2024 … 612264007/
Tens of millions of people don’t have relationships that provide meaning in daily life. No amount of federal money − no number of mental health workers or programs − will solve that problem.

Lucy in the Sky is a 2019 American psychological drama film loosely inspired by the life of NASA astronaut Lisa Nowak, who is portrayed by Natalie Portman
A number in the media and entertainment business found Nowak's story fascinating, and it was been adapted for television, a film, and a 2007 episode of Law & Order: Criminal Intent. A 2008 Molly Lewis song, "Road Trip", recounts the details of early news reports about Nowak's trip from Houston to Orlando. The 2017 Austra music video for "I Love You More Than You Love Yourself" references the actions leading up to Nowak's final arrest, with bandleader Katie Stelmanis playing the role of Lisa Nowak.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210410200 … ideo/news/
the retired astronaut Marsha Ivins, who flew five missions, criticized the premise of the 'Lucy in the Sky' plot and denied that there is such a thing as a "longstanding idea that says astronauts begin to lose their grip on reality after being in space for an extended period of time".
https://web.archive.org/web/20220130195 … uts-space/

Imdb rating 4.9 out of 10

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4682804/


Nasa’s behavioural health and performance services for long duration space missions

https://jnnp.bmj.com/content/94/12/e2.7

There is a book

https://spacecoastliving.com/new-book-d … astronaut/


Very Cold and 'Crime' is Rare but what if it happens

Laws and Crimes at Sea, a future crime events in outer space or offworld crime on another planet with 'Space Pirates'?

What Happened to the Crew of a Florida Boat Found Abandoned at Sea — Pirates or Murderers?
https://www.oxygen.com/deadly-waters-wi … -explained

Ghost Ship
https://www.oxygen.com/deadly-waters-wi … ghost-ship
When a Bahamas-bound charter boat is discovered abandoned 140 miles off course, investigators wade through blood evidence and accounts of a possible pirate attack in their search for survivors

South African man who went on stabbing rampage aboard cruise ship in Alaska remains in custody
https://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-and-co … cdb3119d4c
A South African man, arrested for allegedly stabbing people aboard a cruise ship in Alaska earlier this month, remains in custody in a United States correctional facility.

"Defendant is a South African citizen with no ties to the US. Alleged to have committed an unusually violent and unprovoked attack. Detained without prejudice," the documents stated.


The US Attorney's Office said upon arrival, Sogoni allegedly physically attacked a security guard and a male nurse inside an examination room and proceeded to enter another examination room where a US woman was being examined.

He grabbed a pair of scissors and stabbed the woman multiple times in the arm, hand and face.

He also stabbed two security guards who intervened—one in the head and one in the back and shoulders.

in the US freedom of speech may allow press to report on crimes

Certain other culture culture might cover up crime?

There might be also a particular balance


Haiti does not have many official police per 100,000 of population and the Country is an ongoing disaster of Social Collapse and Anarchy


and since the topic of Churches and Religion has come up at the South Pole maybe a look 'unofficial' counted police at the Vatican Law, the Roman Catholic Church, the Vatican is a weird one while it does not really have Police, types of Guardian Sentry, Active force it does have a lot of Foreign Mercenary Army called 'The Swiss Guard' they dress with very fancy color costume but it the equivalent of the army of the Vatican City and is responsible for safeguarding the Vatican and protecting the Pope the guards are mostly born in Rome to parents of Swiss descent and speak the Roman dialect they are one of the world’s oldest units and have been in existence since the early 16th century.

Japan a high trust social conformist country with low crime has 255 Police per 100,000 of the Japanese population

the United States has a similar number 278 but higher crime

Jamaica has 316     Police per 100,000 but is far more violent and dangerous than the USA again

Somalia only has 43 Police per 100,000 but is also far more violent and dangerous than the USA again

'Palestine' has a high number of 'Police' but its a disaster, historically they are in conflict with Jewish Israeli Police or there are Sharia Law islamic Militia who link to Terrorists.


Mars and the offworlds might have people who are scientifically busy and little crime as the South Pole has little crime, there might be doctors human or an AI Robot that learns to read signs of problems on the rise before they become serious problems.

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