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This may be a good time to enlist Arthur C. Clarke as guidance for the new topic:
Arthur C Clarke's three laws of forecasting: When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong. ... Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Clark's 3 laws — Gordon Brander
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What it will take for humans to colonize the Moon and Mars
https://www.engadget.com/what-it-will-t … 26478.html
“We had indications that H2O – the familiar water we know – might be present on the sunlit side of the Moon,” Paul Hertz, director of the Astrophysics Division in the Science Mission Directorate at NASA Headquarters, said at the time. “Now we know it is there. This discovery challenges our understanding of the lunar surface and raises intriguing questions about resources relevant for deep space exploration.”
Based on this new evidence, Mueller estimates that there should be enough water ice available to “launch a vehicle like the space shuttle every day for 2,000 years. So there's a lot of water on the moon. The trick is, is we have to find it, access it, and mine it, and then economically use it.”
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Don't embrace failed old ideas, religion superstition of radical thought and a dying monarchy idea.
A crazy guy in Poland 'Grzegorz Braun' wants a return of the Monarchy
Far-right Polish lawmaker stokes outrage for blasting menorah with fire extinguisher: 'absolutely scandalous'
https://www.foxnews.com/world/far-right … tinguisher
Poland's TVN24 showed video of Braun using a red fire extinguisher to douse the candles, filling the area with smoke and fog from the device.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poland-grz … inguisher/
Far-right Polish lawmaker Grzegorz Braun uses fire extinguisher on Hanukkah candles in parliament
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/ … parliament
On Earth some planted flags and then just faded away, they had an obsession with speculation on the price of Tulips which were worth more than homes and castles they said. They still sing a song to the Spanish throne but how did Netherlands Holland and the Tea and other commodity Empire really fall down fail...or did it just fade and has it truly gone away? Many big European Empires coming to an end and the Spanish Empire liquidated with the defeat at the hands of the US in the Spanish American War, the French hold onto their launch site in South America, Suriname remained a colony in the 1970s, old powers of Europe were weak after WW1 new powers arrived the USA and the Eastern Tsar Russian Marxist Communist movements, Soviets did not like Monarchy and the USA was against Monarch and colonialism.
A failed Dutch colony and the history of Western Australia
National Heritage Places - Dirk Hartog Landing Site 1616 - Cape Inscription Area
https://www.dcceew.gov.au/parks-heritag … nscription
A Voyage to New Holland, Etc. in the Year 1699 by William Dampier
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/15675
Willem de Vlamingh – Visiting ‘Perth’ in1696
https://dutchaustralianculturalcentre.c … th-in1696/
At the South Pole Argentina and Chile almost sent 'Settlers' but did not
Argentina, Chile and the Antarctic Treaty That Eased Cold War Tensions
https://www.americasquarterly.org/artic … -tensions/
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A great deal is in the exact planning of the missions not just how many people are for the crew:
1. start of launch, landing with knowledge of duration of stay, for a prepared site with lots of equipment and other cargo
2. whether any stay after mars launch window for return to earth is desired from insitu refueling, done with a resupply ship cargo of fuel
3. mission goals while on mars exploration, samples, or building,
4. life support of power, co2/ oxygen regenerative, building and expanding the power levels
5. food support through dried goods, greenhouse and what needs to be used for a return flight,
6. Building of shelter/ protection, expanding man's hold on mars in all forms to excess.
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list can continue due to what ifs, redundancy and change of mission plans.
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