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#151 2023-06-01 03:14:38

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Firefighters tackle Scottish wildfire visible from space.

https://euroweeklynews.com/2023/06/01/f … rom-space/

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#152 2023-06-07 15:24:37

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Canadians lash out after Trudeau requests donations for wildfire relief

https://dailyhive.com/canada/justin-tru … -red-cross

The New York City skyline disappeared

https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/sta … 5026578437

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#153 2023-06-07 18:23:37

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The weird pressure cell that is hanging around is making the smoke go around NH.

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#154 2023-06-08 16:21:02

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Canadian wildfire smoke dims the vision of Earth-observing satellites (photos)

https://www.space.com/canadian-wildfire … satellites

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#155 2023-06-09 16:46:46

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Smoke from Canadian wildfires detected in Norway

https://phys.org/news/2023-06-canadian- … orway.html

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#156 2023-06-11 06:43:39

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'As I watch Canadian wildfires spreading, I hope to see a report in 3 years that says we have had our first year without destructive fires where XPRIZE teams have deployed.  We can put an end to this madnesss'

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#157 2023-06-11 08:54:10

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US-German satellites show California water gains after record winter

https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/US_G … r_999.html

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#158 2023-06-24 11:54:57

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#159 2023-06-29 11:06:07

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Texas heatwave blamed for 13 deaths as scorching temperatures and smoke spread across US
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv … exas-smoke

Nearly 100 die as India struggles with a sweltering heatwave in 2 most populous states
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/in … es-3570486

Deadly 44C heatwave hits Spain as British tourists warned ‘it’s too hot to sleep’
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/17 … h-tourists

South-east Asia braced for fires and drought brought on by El Niño
https://www.ft.com/content/cb1c4168-5e4 … cc1c5d6dc1

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#160 2023-06-29 11:24:19

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Re: California Wildfires

For Mars_B4_Moon ...

A sparrow ended up deceased on my patio yesterday.  A neighbor was wearing an M95 mask while walking her dog, but the dog had no mask.

I'm wondering if you might be willing to watch for any Internet news on bird and small mammal injury caused by the air pollution caused by wild fires.

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#161 2023-06-29 12:16:17

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I have seen articles before on how toxic gas and studies which find wildfire smoke caused massive bird die-off

a number of articles also came out after the 2019–20 Australian bushfire season

2022 news item

Chilling footage shows entire flock of blackbirds mysteriously dropping dead on Mexico street
https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-c … 14770.html
The migratory birds had arrived from northern Canada to spend the winter in Mexico, but likely ended up being impacted from high levels of air pollution, which has hit the region lately due to an increase in wood-burning heaters, agrochemicals and low temperatures.

2020 News

How Wildfires Affect Birds
Big burns are natural, but climate change could make especially destructive fire seasons the new normal.

https://www.audubon.org/news/how-wildfires-affect-birds

'Assuming birds escape a fire, smoke might still affect their health in ways that aren’t very well understood. “We do know that exposure to particulate matter, which of course is of great concern for human health, can affect birds as well,” says Olivia Sanderfoot, a National Science Foundation Graduate Research Fellow at the University of Washington Seattle who studies how air pollution affects birds. For example, veterinarians and poultry scientists who study captive birds have found that smoke can damage lung tissue and leave the animals susceptible to potentially lethal respiratory infections.
How that plays out in the wild is largely unknown, Sanderfoot says. Her current research aims to track changes in bird populations and diversity after exposure to smoke from large wildfires. In some cases, smoke inhalation might make it harder for birds to flee onrushing flames. Thick smoke, for instance, may have contributed to the deaths of 50 adult White Ibises during a 1999 fire in the Everglades, Sanderfoot reported in a recent paper. And some low-flying species might succumb to smoke inhalation or exhaustion before they can escape forest fires, according to the Alberta Institute for Wildlife Conservation.
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#162 2023-06-30 10:57:21

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Canada wildfire smoke chokes millions in North America

https://phys.org/news/2023-06-canada-wi … rica.html#!

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#163 2023-06-30 13:55:55

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For Mars_B4_Moon re #161

Thanks for your follow up regarding smoke from fires possible impact on wildlife.

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#164 2023-07-04 07:46:38

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Latest Canadian wildfire smoke maps show where air quality is unhealthy now and forecasts for the near future
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wildfire-s … forecasts/

Canadian wildfire smoke causing hazy sky as far away as Europe
https://www.aol.com/news/canadian-wildf … 12628.html

Air quality plummets as Canadian wildfire smoke stretches across the Midwest
https://www.npr.org/2023/06/28/11848121 … fire-smoke
Chicago saw its air quality plummet, while other cities including Detroit, Milwaukee and Pittsburgh were experiencing unhealthy air quality levels.

People say the air is very bad, some on social media, English speakers some Spanish claim the air quality is terrible, others claim a burnt, plastic, sulfur, chemical smell

Canadian Wildfires Affecting Central Indiana Air Quality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCIM2GhiG08

I think there is just that much in the way of particles floating around.  This is the worst day yet.  Canadian wildfires affecting central Indiana.

'Canada wildfire you can smell the burnt trees from here'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhz44TaU_24

Canada's record wildfire season continues to hammer U.S. air quality
https://www.wesa.fm/national-internatio … ir-quality

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#165 2023-08-09 07:59:26

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People in Hawaii flee into ocean to escape wildfires that are burning a popular Maui tourist town
https://www.wgauradio.com/news/national … I53OLPUBE/

Smog warnings in effect for parts of southern Quebec due to forest fire smoke
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/smo … 37eb0.html

Environment Canada has issued smog warnings for parts of southern Quebec as smoke from forest fires in northern parts of the province continue to affect air quality.

Quebec’s forest fire prevention agency says blazes burning in the James Bay region in the north, coupled with those elsewhere in Canada, are producing large plumes of smoke that can travel great distances.

Revenue from Summer Tourism in Greece Diminished Due to Wildfires
https://greekreporter.com/2023/08/08/th … terranean/

Siberian forests burn as wildfires engulf eastern Russia – video
https://www.theguardian.com/world/video … ssia-video

Floods to fires: no respite in sight for northern NSW
https://www.riverineherald.com.au/natio … thern-nsw/

From scarfs to shorts: South America sees record-high temperatures in the dead of winter
https://english.elpais.com/society/2023 … inter.html

Wildfire tamed in southern Portugal, but authorities stay on alert
https://au.sports.yahoo.com/wildfire-ta … 34822.html
A huge blaze that erupted over the weekend, razing thousands of hectares of forest in southern Portugal

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#166 2023-08-12 12:31:04

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80 Dead in Hawaii and 1,000 missing

https://gettr.com/post/p2o29388039


California firefighters use AI to spot wildfires

https://news.yahoo.com/california-firef … 56940.html

Residents plead for help as Hawaii works to rebuild after wildfires
https://www.aol.com/news/residents-plea … 29987.html

At least 80 people are confirmed dead and at least 1,000 people are still missing

80 Dead, 1000 Still Missing
https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1537151792800862225

Hawaii underestimated the deadly threat of wildfire, records show
https://www.cbsnews.com/atlanta/news/ha … ords-show/

A mass bus evacuation for visitors will be staged at Sheraton Maui Resort in Kaʻanapali this afternoon and take visitors directly to Kahului Airport
https://twitter.com/DOTHawaii/status/16 … 6637869056

The USCG Cutter Kimball continues to remain on scene in Maui to support federal, state, and local partners in the Lahaina wildfire response. A safety zone was established 3 nautical miles North and South of Lahaina and extending one nautical mile offshore.
https://twitter.com/USCGHawaiiPac/statu … 7331258368


Death toll hits 80 as Hawaii starts probe into wildfire handling
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/h … be-3695301

'officials sought to determine how the inferno spread so rapidly through the historic resort town with little warning.'
https://japantoday.com/category/world/m … -warnings1

Hawaii National Guardsmen deploy to Maui County to aid in search efforts

https://www.bitchute.com/video/aDjEtsbskyB5/

The heat of roads 'melted sandals' and burnt people's feet, says man who escaped Hawaiian wildfires

https://rumble.com/v36rsww-the-heat-of- … scape.html

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#167 2023-08-14 11:43:08

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Looking at Hawaii on satellite pic or internet maps it seems only one road in and one road out

When a 'fire hurricane' hit, Maui's warning sirens never sounded
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66492414

Canada marks worst wildfire season on record
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/canad … 19377.html

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#168 2023-08-14 11:52:56

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For Mars_B4_Moon re Maui ... we are all trying to gather information from many sources, and my guess is that no one anywhere has a full picture of the disaster, but one tiny detail might fit ... I caught an interview with a Hawaiian official who said that fiber optic cables melted. I have no way of knowing if the sirens were controlled by signals passing through fiber optic cables, but if they were, then at some point those signals would have been blocked.

It seems to me that the conditions that led to the disaster at Maui might have ben recognized as super dangerous by a highly trained person who was on site and looking for danger.  The average person is NOT ** that **.

The wild fires all over the world are examples of conditions reaching danger levels without human awareness.

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#169 2023-08-15 08:40:59

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They say Winds were Big Factors that caused a fire to spread quickly in Hawaii. Some report Non-native plant, tree, grasses that are more flammable than native plants, coupled with dry conditions. So watching vids I caught some clips it says there was debate on water supply, a change in agriculture and movement of water, a series of alarm systems that might have been destroyed, there is also blame on invasive plant and animal species the spread of non-native vegetation which is dry and ready to burn. Then as fires break they say hot dry conditions and powered by wind then series of wildfires suddenly broke out in the U.S. state of Hawaii the largest destruction predominantly on the island of Maui, the Fires get pushed by a strong high-pressure area north of Hawaii and Hurricane Dora to the south, most of the destruction is in a populated area, overwhelmingly residential in nature, mostly people's homes and where people were living as the fires hit. Already some intense winds knocked down numerous utility poles perhaps doing damage to communication.  Josh Green, referred to the wildfires as the "worst natural disaster".


In relation to NASA and Mars exploration there is a series of Mars projects or an Analogue Station the Hawaii Space Exploration Analog and Simulation (HI-SEAS) is a Mars and Moon exploration analog research station
NASA trying to understand crew dynamics such as morale, stress management, and how they solve problems as a group
http://www.space.com/28714-mock-mars-mi … iseas.html
they did work on Mauna Loa one of five volcanoes that form the largest Island of Hawaii
HI-SEAS VI project in 2018 Hawaii News Now reported the simulation had been halted while the Dome was inspected following the incident where a crew member suffered an electrical shock, but recovered fully.
EMMIHS IV, began in mid 2020 as an Analog Astronaut Mission at HI-SEAS, aimed at researching the technical and sociological challenges of extraterrestrial habitation. It was initiated and supported by the European Space Agency
https://www.hi-seas.org/emmihs


a thread here

'Hawaii Space Exploration Analog and Simulation station'

https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=7293


This video puts a timeline on events and has people tell stories including jumping into the water, old Inn and Theater from 1901 destroyed.
'How wildfires took hold of Hawaii'
https://rumble.com/v37pex6-how-wildfire … awaii.html


California sent 11 members of Urban Search and Rescue task forces based in the cities of Sacramento, Riverside, and Oakland, and six employees of the California Governor's Office of Emergency Services
https://web.archive.org/web/20230813033 … fbb4bf5790

Anne Lopez announced that her department would conduct a "comprehensive review of critical decision-making and standing policies" surrounding the wildfires.
https://web.archive.org/web/20230812094 … wildfires/

Warning signs seen for hours before Hawaii wildfires, children and elderly among the missing
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/warning-s … g-missing/
'Ninety-nine people are now confirmed to have died'

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#170 2023-08-16 15:24:19

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Hawaii, estimated 1,300 missing
https://www.axios.com/2023/08/16/maui-w … ll-missing

230 wildfires rage on the West Coast in Canada

‘Crisis situation’: Canadian fire nears biggest city in Northwest Territories
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ … ef=mc.news

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#171 2023-08-17 06:20:39

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Canadian fires still out of control, a large part of Canada seems to be in an event that looks like something from a movie, the global collapse perhaps an event that many preppers warned of. Yellowknife the capital, largest community, and only city in the Northwest Territories, Canada. It is on the northern shore of Great Slave Lake, about 400 km (250 mi) south of the Arctic Circle. Yellowknife is on the Canadian Shield, which was scoured down to rock during the last IceAge, Yellowknife normally has few fires and has a subarctic climate. The Snowking Winter Festival is an annual festival held each March in Yellowknife, Northwest Territories.

Northern Canada on fire, in addition to smaller communities, all of capital of Northwest Territories (20,000+) told to evacuate.
https://cabinradio.ca/142024/news/envir … day-dawns/

‘Real threat to city’: Yellowknife in Canada evacuates as wildfire nears
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ … ellowknife

20,000 residents of capital of Northwest Territories ordered to leave after forecast that wildfire 11 miles away could arrive by the weekend

Portugal fires: is it safe to travel and should I cancel my holiday?
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/travel/advic … -to-travel

WATCH: Video footage of firefighters tackling wildfires in Russia
https://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/n … c7d9aa18d1

Prison for woman who raised £34,000 for victims of Australian fires but spent most on herself
https://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/pr … elf-834601

Wildfires raging across the world and record heatwaves are "really alarming" evidence of the speed of climate change, according to Europe's top Space official
https://news.sky.com/story/wildfires-bu … e-12941036

Biden Says He’ll Visit Hawaii After Deadly Wildfires
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/15/us/p … fires.html

The president had not addressed the fires since last week, a relative silence that drew criticism from Republicans.

Fires, other disasters are increasing in Hawaii
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2023/08/ … in-hawaii/

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#172 2023-08-17 10:17:41

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Maui officials defend decision not to sound sirens during wildfire

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden- … 023-08-16/


Who is Kaleo Manuel? Maui Water Official Faces Scrutiny Over Fire Response

https://www.newsweek.com/who-kaleo-manu … re-1820405

A letter sent by the West Maui Land Company to an official at the Hawaii Commission on Water Resource Management (CWRM) highlights a delay in releasing water that may have hampered firefighters' efforts to tame a raging blaze in west Maui.

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#173 2023-08-17 15:11:02

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Hawaii governor vows to block land grabs as Maui wildfire death tolls hits 111

https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-c … 95007.html

Wildfires in Hawaii, Canada and Tenerife cause concern - BBC News
https://rumble.com/v38gex1-wildfires-in … -news.html

What Sparks US Wildfires: Power Lines, Burning Trash and Lightning

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sparks-u … 00431.html

'Canada heat wave raising danger of even more wildfires'

https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/na … 361063001/

Out-of-control wildfire scorches Spain's Tenerife island, affecting thousands
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/control-wildf … 50067.html
An out-of-control wildfire on the Spanish Canary island of Tenerife has burned thousands of acres

The Fire in Maui and the Lesson of Greece
https://www.wsj.com/articles/lahaina-an … i-fa99f1c0
Athens learned the lessons of a 2018 blaze that killed 104. In Rhodes last month, only one person died.

Greece's Volos region struggles to rebuild after devastating fires
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/environment/a … 7_114.html

Hawaiian Electric Knew of Wildfire Threat, but Waited Years to Act

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/wildfire-ri … c-7beed21e

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#174 2023-08-18 11:34:52

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Report on West Kelowna Population of 36,078 and City Kelowna of 144,576 on Okanagan Lake in the Okanagan Valley in the southern interior of British Columbia, Canada
vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esjHUyP_9II

Thousands ordered to evacuate in B.C.'s Okanagan as fast-moving wildfire threatens Kelowna, West Kelowna
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- … -1.6940311

Convoys, airport lineups: Yellowknife residents leave city as fire creeps closer
https://calgarysun.com/news/national/ye … rns-nearby

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#175 2023-08-18 12:23:54

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For Mars_B4_Moon re #173

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I saved the post and will try later
I wouldn't be surprised if you find subsequent reports that political pressure is now redirected at safety, such as burying lines to avoid poles falling due to hurricane winds.

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