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#1 2021-09-18 11:22:13

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Space Tourist Space Tourism

For SpaceNut .... there did not seem to be a generic topic for this class of flights...

We've had human flights to the ISS before, and they are probably noted in the forum under specific headings.

This topic is available for copies of all those previous flights.... if someone has the time and energy to copy and paste them.

I'll start off with this update ....

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/sp … 06942.html

SpaceX capsule with world's first all-civilian orbital crew set for splashdown

The Dragon capsule, dubbed Resilience, is scheduled to parachute into the sea around 7 p.m. Eastern time, shortly before sunset, according to SpaceX, the private rocketry company founded by Tesla Inc electric automaker CEO Elon Musk.

According to Google, the planned landing is set for before 11 PM UTC.


I certainly hope the flight is a complete success!

There are plenty more billionaires with $200MM pocket change.

For Google: How many billionaires are there on Earth in 2021?

About 28,000,000 results (1.02 seconds)
2,604 billionaires
According to the Wealth-X Billionaire Census 2019, there are 2,604 billionaires in the world today. Global billionaire wealth decreased by 7% and the number of billionaires decreased by 5.4%.

Billionaires By Country 2021 - World Population Reviewhttps://worldpopulationreview.com › country-rankings

For Google: ** thanks !!! **

We should see many more such flights if this one goes well.

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#2 2021-09-18 11:32:29

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Asking Google about space tourist flights before the current flight ...

Space tourism - Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Space_tourism
Eight tourists reached orbit between 2001 and 2009. In 2011 Space Adventures suggested that this number could reach 140 by 2020, but there has yet to be any ...
Space Adventures · Space Tourism Society · Dennis Tito · Gregory Olsen

From theconversation.com ...

On April 28, 2001, Dennis Tito, a wealthy businessman, paid US$20 million for a seat on a Russian Soyuz spacecraft to be the first tourist to visit the International Space Station. Only seven civilians have followed suit in the 20 years since, but that number is poised to double in the next 12 months alone.

Can anyone else find a complete list?  The early indications are (see above) that only 8 (eight) people have flown as space tourists prior to the current all-civilian flight.

Here is a snapshot of a table in Wikipedia:

Flight up
(craft)    Flight down
(craft)    Duration    Mission    Tourist(s)    Spacecraft    Destination    Fee paid    Tour company    Ref.
April 28, 2001
(Soyuz TM-32)    May 6, 2001
(Soyuz TM-31)    8 days    ISS EP-1    Dennis Tito    Soyuz    International Space Station    US$20 million    Space Adventures    [36]
April 25, 2002
(Soyuz TM-34)    May 5, 2002
(Soyuz TM-33)    10 days    ISS EP-2    Mark Shuttleworth       
October 1, 2005
(Soyuz TMA-7)    October 10, 2005
(Soyuz TMA-6)    10 days    ISS EP-3    Gregory Olsen       
September 20, 2006
(Soyuz TMA-9)    September 29, 2006
(Soyuz TMA-8)    10 days    ISS EP-4    Anousheh Ansari       
April 7, 2007
(Soyuz TMA-10)    April 21, 2007
(Soyuz TMA-9)    10 days    ISS EP-12    Charles Simonyi       
October 12, 2008
(Soyuz TMA-13)    October 24, 2008
(Soyuz TMA-12)    13 days    ISS EP-13    Richard Garriott    US$30 million    [68]
March 26, 2009
(Soyuz TMA-14)    April 8, 2009
(Soyuz TMA-13)    14 days    ISS EP-14    Charles Simonyi       
September 30, 2009
(Soyuz TMA-16)

I don't consider suborbital flights worth showing.

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#3 2021-09-18 16:29:58

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Update at 18:28 local time ... The Dragon Capsule is in a 15 minute de-orbit burn.

35 minutes is the estimated splash-down time ...

Update at 19:11 local time ... smooth spashdown!

Congratulations to everyone involved in a successful maiden all-civilian flight!

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#4 2021-09-18 18:17:01

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Its to bad that they did not get to get out of the capsule into another orbiting station even if it was nothing but an inflatable like BEAM  least it would have been something.

Four SpaceX space tourists set to return to Earth tonight

Billionaire Jared Isaacman financed the trip, paying SpaceX tens of millions of dollars.

Isaacman, who led the mission, offered the other three seats to strangers:
Hayley Arceneaux, a 29-year-old nurse;
Sian Proctor, a 51-year-old professor; and
Chris Sembroski, a 42-year-old US Air Force veteran.

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#5 2021-09-19 17:35:54

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#6 2021-09-26 08:20:14

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The trip was not all smooth as the mission did have some errors.
I did see this reported elsewhere as well
SpaceX had a problem onboard the first all-tourist flight. It could have been much worse

The alarm that occurred on earth re-entry was for the onboard toilet


Nothing in space is easy, including going to the bathroom. In a healthy human on Earth, making sure everything ends up in the toilet is usually a matter of simple aim. But in space, there is no feeling of gravity. There's no guarantee that what comes out will go...where it's supposed to. Waste can — and does — go in every possible direction.

To solve that problem, space toilets have fans inside them, which are used to create suction. Essentially they pull waste out of the human body and keep it stored away.

And the Crew Dragon's "waste management system" fans were experiencing mechanical problems. That is what tripped the alarm the crew heard.

So you forgot to put the seat down....

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#7 2021-09-26 09:52:44

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This is what the Secretary-General of the United Nations thinks. Either grind your molars about his view-or simply laugh it off.

https://spacenews.com/un-secretary-gene … -to-space/

It's more the precursor to the standard "save the starving babies" argument, reiterated for the zillionth time, telling people that the way they spend their own money should be somehow, regulated, and used for the way someone else thinks it should be spent.

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#8 2021-09-26 13:55:21

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Standard against space argument on costs and benefits which is one of the reasons when Nasa builds a ship they spread the locations that produce parts for the ship so as to give high paying jobs to others.
The trouble is the jobs that are in your local is the issue for the low wages and such. Then there is the people whom are working but not really earning the wage that they are paid.
So lets save that starving baby means getting jobs and education to match not having to have a doctors degree to flip burger....but once you have a job give a growth path via education while you work at the place towards upward movement for a higher wage. If the jobs a dead end then so are the wages....

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#9 2021-09-26 15:14:10

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For the kinds of workplaces we have,  the incentive in our kind of capitalism is to pay your workers less,  so that you and the stockholders can get paid more.  Simple as that.

Historically,  the only practical restraint on slipping into wage slavery has been labor unions.  Unfortunately,  the political fad over most of my life has been union-busting.  It kinda shows:  a middle class life in the 1950's and 1960's only required one wage-earner per family.  Today,  it takes both parents working,  and even then often they come up short.  That is the result of 60 years of union-busting.

The only other restraint upon wage slavery is the minimum wage,  as ineffective as it has proven.  Yet,  take one good guess why there is so much opposition to it?  Could it possibly be that wage slavery is even more profitable?  The Chinese certainly think so.

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"There is nothing as expensive as a dead crew,  especially one dead from a bad management decision"

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#11 2021-11-26 15:54:32

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Japanese space tourists arrive at launch site ahead of ISS trip

https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Japa … p_999.html

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#12 2021-11-26 18:59:04

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I believe orbital and lunar tourism will be a big growth area for Space X, using its Starships. I think the industry will quickly accelerate from millions, to hundreds of millions to billions (of dollars) per annum. It will be such a status symbol to have been into space that just about every multi-milliionaire on the planet will want to say they've been there...especially the younger generation I think. Also businesses will use space travel to attract staff by giving them an opportunity to go into space. Probably every big business on the planet will have its own small space programme where a few staff go into orbit or to the Moon every year.

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#13 2021-12-06 07:23:17

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Yusaku Maezawa 前澤 友作, Maezawa Yusaku is a Japanese billionaire entrepreneur and art collector. On 17 September 2018, it was announced that Maezawa will be the 'First commercial passenger to do a flyby around the Moon'


Russia to send Japanese tycoon to ISS in return to space tourism
https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Russ … m_999.html


Japanese duo prepare for first tourist flight to space station since 2009
https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2021/1 … 638542657/

Russia to send tycoon to ISS in return to space tourism
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202112/1240789.shtml

Japanese billionaire gets ready
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20 … sc/014000c

Yusaku Maezawa: irreverent billionaire fascinated by space
https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Yusa … e_999.html

Japanese tycoon planning space station visit
https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14349485

On May 13, 2021, Maezawa announced he would be joining Space Adventures on a trip to the International Space Station in December 2021, via the Soyuz. He aims to spend 12 days on the orbital machine to experience a long duration spaceflight, try to do top 100 things demanded by public as well as recording highlights in preparation to the SpaceX lunar flight.

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#14 2021-12-07 16:45:46

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Japanese duo prepare for first tourist flight to space station since 2009
https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Japa … 9_999.html

Billionaire Yusaku Maezawa is going to the ISS ahead of his trip around the Moon
https://news.yahoo.com/russia-iss-space … 16577.html

Japanese billionaire Yusaku Maezawa to fulfil childhood dream with space flight
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/ja … ex-2363666

I assume this older quote from Nasaspaceflight refered to 'Starship'?

The BFR artist-filled flight will launch on its roughly six day mission No Earlier Than (NET) 2023 – a date Mr. Musk cautioned in the following Q&A session was not set in stone. https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/
The flight will only launch after the completion of BFR hopper tests, which Mr. Musk confirmed are still targeted to begin next year.
After that, the BFR will move on to larger scale tests – with Mr. Musk noting that the entire BFR system will be tested in an uncrewed configuration before Maezawa and his fellow passengers embark on their voyage around the moon. SpaceX revealed the name of the passenger who has paid for a circumlunar navigation voyage aboard the company’s under construction BFR (Big Falcon Rocket) vehicle.  Yusaku Maezawa, a Japanese entrepreneur, purchased an entire BFR rocket with plans to ask a handful of artists to join him on his journey – artists who can then create works to inspire others to dream.

Soyuz MS-20 is a Russian Soyuz spaceflight to the International Space Station planned for launch on 8 December 2021. Unlike previous Soyuz flights to the ISS, Soyuz MS-20 will not deliver any crew members for an ISS Expedition or serve as a lifeboat for any crew members on board the station.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz_MS-20
Instead, it will be commanded by a single professional cosmonaut on board, and two space tourists will be provided by space tourism company Space Adventures, which has already successfully planned and executed eight space tourism missions to the ISS.

photos
https://twitter.com/roscosmos/status/14 … 0260842496
Roscosmos Twitter

Japanese billionaire ready for launch to International Space Station
https://spaceflightnow.com/2021/12/07/j … e-station/

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#15 2021-12-07 20:35:34

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I think that another was hoping for a trip around the moon back when space x had Falcon 9 Heavy crewed but I think he was convinced to wait...

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#16 2021-12-08 13:29:00

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Japanese billionaire Yusaku Maezawa lifts off for space station on Russian Soyuz
https://www.space.com/soyuz-ms20-maezaw … ist-launch
Billionaire Yusaku Maezawa is going to the ISS ahead of his trip around the Moon. He and his assistant will be the first tourists on the space station in over a decade.
https://www.engadget.com/russia-iss-spa … 16577.html
DW Español had a live feed, he seems to have boarded the ISS
https://twitter.com/yoshi_japones/statu … 0562095104

Space dot com also had a video feed
youtube.com/watch?v=HyOEZaJhjO8

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#17 2021-12-10 20:32:57

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#18 2021-12-11 21:09:41

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Alan Shepard: Bezos company sends first US astronaut's daughter to edge of space

The daughter of the first US astronaut, Alan Shepard, has blasted into space - 60 years after her father's flight.

Laura Shepard Churchley, 74, was one of six people to make the trip onboard a commercial spacecraft launched by Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin space company.

Ms Shepard Churchley's father, who died in 1998, became the first American in space after his Mercury flight took off from Florida's Cape Canaveral on 5 May 1961.

It marked the first time that Blue Origin had filled all six seats on its New Shepard rocket, which is named after the eponymous astronaut.

Lasting for just over 10 minutes and reaching an altitude of around 62 miles (100km), it was five minutes and 116 miles shorter than Alan Shepard's inaugural flight.

Well not quite as high but still a feat that most will never get the chance to do.

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#19 2021-12-12 04:19:22

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'Michael Strahan joins Jeff Bezos Blue Origin crew, NASA astronaut Alan Shephard’s daughter to space'
https://news.yahoo.com/michael-strahan- … 51376.html

Here are some previous discussion on newmars about this tourism thing .  Soyuz to the Moon http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=2559 Space Tours - for the rich http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=2080 Space Tourism Shuttle C Hotel http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1657 More "altruists" to board the ISS! http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=5314



SpaceNut wrote:

Well not quite as high but still a feat that most will never get the chance to do.

I don't think Bezos has even a fraction of the ambitions of Musk, however for now he's happy promoting himself and making headlines with these space tourist flights

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#20 2022-09-02 14:25:36

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How the space tourism industry has fared since Richard Branson's launch
https://www.wvpublic.org/2022-07-11/how … ons-launch

Virgin Galactic again delays start of commercial suborbital flights
https://spacenews.com/virgin-galactic-a … l-flights/

Solar54 Argentina
https://www.instagram.com/solar54.argentina/
Base de simulación de la vida humana en Marte
La primera de Latinoamerica

'Descubri el Interior de solar54'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjYErRsexAE

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#21 2022-09-02 16:29:25

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sub orbital joy rides..

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