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There statements have little to do with why they are fighting, they are fighting for power, they are fighting against liberals like you, they hate women's rights, they hate Jews and Christians, there is nothing just about what they are fighting for, they are simply two-legged monsters that look human. You see what they did, putting people in cages and burning them alive? They stone women for adultery, they cut off heads and put them in baskets, they are simply monsters, and we need to hunt them down!. I don't know why you bother to try and see things from their point of view, they are not civilized, they are not humane, they behave in ways that are similar to the orcs of Middle Earth. So when they start acting like human beings, then maybe they'll deserve to be treated like human beings, but until then they are monsters!

What propaganda, the 9/11 attack was real, I was there! I believe humans were really burned in cages, I can show you the baskets of human heads they collected, and they trained children to shoot other children that weren't what they considered to be Muslim. They are barbarians, and they deserve no respect from us, and we should make it clear to them that they are not going to get any respect from us, so long as they behave this way.

It was their leaders idea to have this Jihad against the West, if they would fight like civilized soldiers, they would get more respect from us, but they don't, they target civilians on purpose!

What is their soil? Syria or Iraq? The Levant, they claim a lot of land, and there are modern states that occupy that land and don't agree with them, and the fact that they act like monsters and violate all the rules of war while they fight indicates they don't really deserve any land. If they act like orcs, they are not going get Mordor!

Not once, if we were as evil as they are, we would have exterminated them the way Hitler intended to do with the Jews!

Well they are not freedom fighters, they haven't freed anyone, and have enslaved quite a few women and forced marriages on them after murdering their husbands!

Then we need to kill them! People who burn POWs in cages deserve nothing.

I can tell a lie too, and so can you, saying something doesn't make it true, and people who murder and enslave are capable of lying

You mean about enslaving women and burning people in cages? Don't you believe in equal rights for women. We're the country that does, they do not, that is one of the reasons they are fighting us, but you are more than willing to think of the United States as evil, no matter who says it, even if its a bunch of Islamo-Nazis that hate women and who are intolerant of other religions and homosexuality. These are monsters!

You take the word of an orc?

Murder people who stone women for adultery and immodesty?

Yes they are killing us, if we kill enough of them, they will get the message that killing Americans is a bad idea!

We will stop when they stop attacking us, its quite simply, but they love fighting and sending their men and women to die in suicide bombs, they fact that they are using such things indicates they don't value their own lives so why should we? They are a bunch of monsters that look human, that have got this meme in their head that they are part of a Jihad against the West, and we've played softball with them for too long, letting them think they can win, and that God is on their side. We need to show them the error of their ways.

Really? I don't seem to recall Al Qaeda or ISIS ever surrendering or giving up the fight! What we need to do is crush their will to fight and their will to sacrifice themselves, and when that happens, when the world gets back to normal and we no longer have to worry about suicide terrorists then the War on Terror will be good and won!

Blame the Jihad! Unfortunately, you don' win wars by enhancing security and building walls, what you have to do is go out and destroy the enemy, make such an example of him so that other people and countries will no better than to start a war with you, this is what we did to Japan and Germany at the end of World War II, but unfortunately over time, the enemy forgets and needs to be reminded, they agan think they can wage a war against you and win, so we need to show them that they are wrong, by destroying enough of them to make them think that further fighting would be too costly and not worth it!

Defense defense defense, over the last 8 years the emphasis has always been on defense and not on offense, if the Enemy fails to get through and make his attack, he says, "Oh darn," and tries again and again until he finanlly succeeds and auses the casualities that he wants! It is time we fought back and retaliated, make their societies pay the price for getting into a war with the United States!

The something we could do is bomb the enemy, bomb him and bomb him until his people grow tired of the war and the mounting causalities. What is this war for anyway? What do they hope to achieve? Obama would have ended this war at the negotiating table if he could, but they just kept attacking and attacking, and by doing so, they kept the war alive for the next Administration, the Trump Administration, and Donald Trump needs to do what Obama could not, finish off this enemy so it is no longer a threat!

A long as the Middle East meddles on our affairs by attacking us! That is the answer, our goal is clear, to stop terrorism, to stamp it out, what I their goal, to be destroyed by the West? Also why do you want them coming here? It seems they are proving that Islam is a menace, that is what their Jihad is showing us! Why do we continue to let Muslims in here and walk among us, and pull out a dagger or a bomb every now and then, or run us over with a truck or take over an airplane and crash it! If your argument is we shouldn't be meddeling in their affairs, that also seems to be a strong argument for not letting them come here, yet you liberals say we should get out of the Middle East, and you roll out the red carpet for middle easterners that want to come here, especially Muslims! You seem determined that Americans not feel safe. th only argument for pulling out of the Middle East is for safety, but you undermine that by insisting that we don't band Muslims. So we are back to square one, you refuse to follow a true isolationist policy, yet you want us to withdraw from the middle east without banning Muslims from coming here. So my question is, why should we do what you ask? There seems to be nothing in it for us! No matter what we do, they keep on killing us, so the only choice left is to go out and destroy them! That is the logic and my conclusion, do you have a better answer?

That kind of leaves Taiwan doesn't it. Since Taiwan can't be a party to the Outer Space Treaty as its not recognized as a country by the UN. So does Taiwan get Mars?

There is a way to lower the ocean level without refreezing the Earth. We can build a vast system of resevoirs on Antarctica, and store the water there as water, it would be a monumental engineering project, but I think Antarctica has enough material that if we redistribute it towards the coastline, we can make a vast fresh water/sea lake in the interior of the Antarctic continent.

This is a map of Antarctica, not imagine if we dug a giant artificial crater in the center of this continent and moved all the dirt and rock we excavated over to the shoreline to make a giant 360 degree earthen dam surrounding the South Pole and then filled it with water, making sure most of it stays in this giant lake. the Ocean level would then stay low instead of rising with the melting glaciers adding their water content to the oceans, We can instead cup all this water in the center of Antarctica and have it remain there as water. humans can act swiftly compared to climate change, and Antarctica has a very sparse ecology, no forests etc. We can import out own flora and fauna to the rim of this giant artificial lake we wish to make, and we can even have human settlements there in this largely vacant continent.

Here is the New Antarctica I would propose!

I think the Democrats deserve to be replaced with either the Green Party of the Libertarian Party after trying to run Hillary Clinton as their candidate for President and rigging the primary so she would win! Candidates need t get back to serving the public and having ideas that work instead of demagoguery and a political machine that gets them elected no matter who they are! Bernie Sanders had an unfair contest in that primary, and that's wrong! The Democrats need to learn to be competitive and not rely so heavily on trickery propaganda and their control of the media to get them elected, and we need a more unbiased media, not the one we have now! We need a media that is mostly fair and balanced, not one that is partisan and Pro-Democrat, this yellow journalism has got to stop for the good of the country, Americans deserve to know the truth and not hear on party's propaganda only when they turn on the supposed news! Also we should be more interested in the welfare of the country than in whether the Democrats win or lose. and most of all, you need to give Donald Trump a chance to do right by the American people instead of attacking him from day one! I don't think every candidate that Trump nominates has a scandal or some skeleton in his or her closet that the media needs to expose, this level of scandal is extremely unrealistic and I think the liberal media is making this stuff up and trying to smear nominees and obstruct the Trump Administration from doing its job, rather than the media doing its job of reporting the news and not fighting to achieve specific political results that they want through propaganda and slanted biased reporting! Lets get back to the job a journalist is supposed to be doing, and they are not supposed to be politicians!

recently Chuck Schumer has been complaining that Trump wants to cut the homeland security spending for New York, and I'm thinking, well maybe Chuck Schumer should have thought of that before attacking the President from day one of his inauguration! Maybe he shouldn't have been such a booster of bringing all sorts of refugees from the middle east, who may be terrorists, if he is so concerned about homeland security!. I think Trump simply assumes that if Chuck thinks terrorism isn't a problem and that we should roll out the red carpet for Middle East refugees, then the homeland security budget becomes a target for cuts. One follows from the other, and maybe of Chuck wasn't acting like such a jerk towards Donald Trump, he could serve his constituents better!

Why do you suppose no one attacks Andorra? There is very little to be gained from doing so, it is a tiny country and you would gain the approbation of all the countries in Europe if you did so, there might be sanctions imposed on your country for making such a blatantly aggressive act, and the territory you would have gained from invading that county would be small. For a similar reason Nazi Germany did not invade Switzerland, it had its hands full dealing with the allies, the Third Reich already had Switzerland surrounded, and Switzerland wasn't a threat, and occupying that country would only have held down troops which could have been used to fight the allies, so as long as the Allies were a going concern, Switzerland was safe from the Nazis, however should the Allies fail, Hitler could have brought some of his troops home and filled in that "hole" in his empire. Being small and inoffensive seems to be your criteria for worthiness to govern Mars, I wonder why you didn't propose that the Vatican City in Rome govern Mars, it is after all the smallest country in the World, not Andorra! Do you want the Pope to be in charge of Mars?

50% of the national debt rests solely on the shoulders of the Obama Administration and the democrats in congress and the feeble republicans that let the Democrats walk all over them, the Media shares a blame portion of the blame by stacking the cards against the Republicans in Congress with their reporting. When Obama shut down the government because he wasn't getting everything he wanted from the Republican Majority in Congress, the Media portrayed it as the Republicans in Congress shutting down government, this is when Ted Cruz led the filibuster to shut down spending for Obamacare, the Republican leadership quickly gave in due to pressure from the Media, which was under the control of the Democrats. The Media also arranged to nominate Donald Trump as the Republican candidate in 2016, most of the American People weren't paying much attention until the general election started, most Americans do not vote in primaries, so it was easy for he media to influence those who do! Most Americans vote between two candidates that the two major parties give them on the first Tuesday of November, they don't typically participate in the selection process of those two candidates presented. Now the second 50% was primarily the fault of the Democrats, and the weak limbed Republicans who are only in Congress because they want a job. The first 50% of the debt, that is the first $10 trillion of it was about 50% the responsibility of the Republicans and 50% the responsibility of the Democrats, but the Obama Administration doubled the debt in only 8 years, and he was mostly interested in borrowing and spending, and raising taxes so he looks responsible while doing so, the only thing he cut was defense spending, but he was willing to give the Iranians billions of dollars and $100 million per person for four American hostages he wanted released. Obama sent billions of dollars to the Third World at US taxpayers expense!

You really think George W. Bush overspent on the military? I take that to mean we won the war on terrorism but we just kept spending money on the military afterwards, is that what you mean by overspending? Did FDR overspend on fighting World War II? Was there a cheaper way to do it? Are you unhappy with the results? I do know one thing though, there wasn't a Cold War between the US and Russia when Obama was first sworn into office in 2009, that is entirely on him, and Trump inherits Obama's Cold War because of the actions and inactions of the Obama Administration that allowed us to get to this point! So now the Democrats are pretending to be Cold War Hawks in this new Cold War that began during Obama's Administration and all the while they advocated cutting the defense budget as the World got more dangerous! Do you see something wrong with this picture?

So all of one's eggs are in one basket? If everybody lives under one dome and the seal fails, then everyone dies! The initial home Martian astronauts will use will be small, about the size of a single family home or smaller, it will house about 4 to 6 astronauts, about the size of a typical American family. Now as we increase the size of the base, we are likely to bring more of these prefab structures to Mars, so there will be a number of structures sitting on landing legs with rocket engines underneath. At some point we will decide to make habitable structures out of local materials. There are two directions we can go with this, a large municipal dome or underground structure, or a lot of smaller domes made to order by each family that migrates to Mars. On Mars, the clothes one wears to go outside is literally life or death. Do you suppose there will be junior size spacesuits? If we go with 1950s America and transfer it to Mars, imagine this: June Cleaver packs the children's lunches in pressurized lunch boxes, and says to the children before the enter the airlock on the way to he school bus, "Don't forget to check your pressure seals before going outside!" "Okay Mom!" replies both the son and daughter together. The yellow pressurized Mars rover that says "School Bus" on top pulls up in front of the family dome, inside can be seen a bunch of children in their space suits, helmets removed. The children cycle through the airlock of the family dome and bound out side in leaps and jumps, Sarah leaps over a boulder on the way to the bus, Little Jonnie in his spacesuit yells, "Wait for me!" to his big sister over the suit radio, the two skip over to the bus' airlock and one after the other the two cycle through the airlock and they remove their helmets so they can talk to their friends. The school bus silently pulls away with children onboard kicking up a cloud of dust in the thin Martian atmosphere.

Is there anything wrong with this scene I just described?

Your assuming that what were doing is what is causing global warming, but global warming has been happening for 18,000 years which was the height of the last ice age, there has been global warming for far longer than there has been carbon dioxide emissions from industrial processes and transportation.

This is the map of the World during the last ice age.

This is a map of the World today. See the extent of Global Warming?

This is a map of the Earth if Global Warming were to continue. What makes you think we can stop it? As you can see the globe has been warming before we actual were adding to the carbon dioxide levels, this is kind of like saying the crowing rooster caused the Sun to rise. We are in the middle picture. In the middle picture we suddenly get people saying we are causing global warming and we should stop. If we actually wanted to stop this global warming, we would probably have to shade the Earth with structures in space, because our cutting our carbon-dioxide emissions probably would not be sufficient to do the job, because our carbon-dioxide emissions weren't responsible for most of the global warming that has occurred on Earth in the first place. We would have to actively engineer this planet if we wanted to stop global warming, we'd need some of the terraforming techniques we would use on Venus to cool the planet, we would have to put something between the Earth and the Sun to do this, and I'm not sure it would be a good idea to mess with Earth's climate! The Earth was doing fine without us, having those ice ages and warming periods, we don't need to act as a thermostat for Earth and hold climate change in check!

Those two in the middle picture aren't Republicans, the one on the left is Debbie Wasserman Shultz, I recognize her face! We're 20 trillion in debt because of the Democrats, the Republicans are only beginning to get to work, but they find it easier just to let the Democrats destroy the country as the have been doing. Republicans or at least the career Republicans don't like this responsibility, they do like their jobs and their perks however, so they won't willingly vacate their seats so some real Republicans can get to work on our Nation's problems

They still might get stuck in ice and have their hulls crushed and spill their fuel contents into the Ocean as a result. Besides, its stupid that everything is run by the government or on a cost plus contract at this base, they've hemmed it in with government rules and regulations so that there is no room for economic growth or expansion at McMurdo! If you can have a SpaceX building rockets, how about private development of Antarctica, enough of this socialist garbage? When are we going to stop pretending to be the Soviet Union when it comes to Antarctica?

Poor people don't live in fancy ocean shore homes, they can't afford them, the people who live in them can afford to move!
We are a long way from a runaway Venus.

You know when this scene occurred, this could have been Canada with palm trees! The Earth was warmer in this scene when these dinosaurs had this battle, Does it look barren to you and incapable of supporting human life? If it could support these dinosaurs why couldn't it support us? We still have ice caps, at the time of the dinosaurs there were no permanent ice caps at the poles. Dinosaurs frolicked in Antarctica of all places!