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Here they some other 3d animations:

Two large, experimental downloads:
[http://jumpjack.altervista.org/immagini … -anim3.gif]Crater (700KB)

[http://jumpjack.altervista.org/immagini/arm-anim.gif]Arm (1500KB)

Let me know if you like them!

Luca

Give me the images, I'll give you the movie! (I'll try, at least).
Looking for all suitable images in ~160 Sols is quite hard...

Starting with color images would be better, in my opinion.
Waiting for images links---

Luca

I did some experiments with Ulead Gif Animator and Spirit images, and I obtained this incredible image:

I obtained it from these images:
[http://www.lyle.org/mars/imagery/2P1340 … 67L7M1.JPG]left
[http://www.lyle.org/mars/imagery/2P1340 … 67R1M1.JPG]right

I created this sequence:
1) left
2) right
3) left
4) right

1) is the same of 3) and 2) is the same of 4), BUT 1) and 2) are centered on point 2, 2) and 3) are centered on point 3, and 3) and 4) are ceneterd on point 4, and this three points are at different distances from the observer:

It looks like it will be quite hard to rech those hills! 

Luca

This is the image I am referring to:

[http://www.lyle.org/mars/imagery/1M1308 … 59M2M1.JPG](zoom)

But I remember a color version of this, although it is a microscope imagery; does anybody remember it?

??? Exactly...

What's the matter in your post?!?  ???

What I meant is:
If you are sure that no life evidence will be ever found on Mars, you are wrong.
If you are sure that ther IS life on Mars, you are wrong.
The point is: you CAN'T be sure of anything but present discoveries.
NOW ther is no evidence of life on Mars; tomorrow, it could, or it could not.

If all ancient people were sure of the "geocentric theory", nobody would have demonstrated that the Earth is not the centre of the universe: they were sure, what should they demonstrate?!?

Open your mind, if you want to be a scientist.

Luca

I just said whot the outcrop looks like.
It could be, it could not be, nobody knows, and I am not trying to convince anybody, and I am not talking about any conspiracy.
It's just an hypothesis.

Unfortunately, your firm skepticism about "no life on mars" is very close to the firm belief of "life on mars" by those guys; you are both wrong: in science nothing is firm, all is hypothetical. IF all scientist were like you, currently we would still believe Earth is flat...

Luca

[http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/scie … overs.html]Extended missions confirmed!

[http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA05633.jpg]Summary of Opportunity's path into the crater

[http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/ … R1_br2.jpg]Leaving the crater

(3d anaglyphs)

Luca

In my opinion, it looks like all the planet is covered with those damned    spherlues, as we can find them on two opposite sides of the planet! But I can only base my judgement on their color&shape, until we'll have chemical evidences.

[edit]
Maybe Spirit could examine the huge quantity of blue spherules inside Bonneville? They should be enough for its instruments!!

Luca

[http://www.keithlaney.com/SCI/B3.jpg]This image shows very well how little spherules are spread all around the terrain, as you can see the edge between a zone with spherules and a zone without them.
Can you see the low-resolution illusion on the right part of the image?

Luca

At the beginning, I though the "granularity" of these Mars photos where caused by low resolution; then, I discovered I was wrong: we just have spherules ALL AROUND, ANYWHERE, and they make photo look like low-res!
Try looking at those images thinking you  are looking out of a window, not into a photo: convince your brain you are seing a REAL image, not a photo, and that it is REAL resolution. It's not easy, but if yoy can, you'll eventually see those little spherules everywhere!!

Definitely a strange terrain!

Luca

Why "mind's eye"? Use your REAL eyes:

This is only an example of synthetic images you can find at
[http://home-1.worldonline.nl/~veenen/]Kee's Terragen pages

You can also view how Gusev Crater could appear in the past:
[http://www.space4case.com/mars/mars7/mars_7.html]http://www.space4case.com/mars/mars7/mars_7.html

No Opportunity's site images, unfortunately. Maybe he'll create it now, after these news!

Luca