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We're talking about human development, im not talking about the earth here, im talking about the human economy.
if human industry is moved off the planet, the human economy will stagnate
If the industry is gone, what product is their to export? forget about grow or die, just survive. without an industry to support a planet, it will fall behind.
oh, i believe it. but the technology has to come out first. and i believe the first one will be an american one.
i hope every country does get one. i want another space race. but i dont think all the african nations have the resources, and not all of them are trustworthy business partners.
and are there any US controlled waters on the equator?
hmm didnt think of that. any way advancements could place it in other locations?
The world hates us for being big brother. why should we perpetuate that hatred?
he was providing a valid point. thats the opposite extreme of what youre saying. the point hes making is that youre saying something very silly, and hes saying something equally silly.
a foil is an opposite.
you dont live near the ghettos, dont presume to know what its like.
and once you go to apply for a job, the skin tone shows. you can dress a white person up to look rich, but a black person always comes with that nagging preconceived idea of poverty, ignorance, etc.
it doesnt happen every day. maybe one in a thousand make their way out. its far easier for whites. ive seen black people with more qualifications get less.
george jefferson is a pipe dream, a show of the hopes and dreams of people. for most, the only seemingly hopeful way out is through sports, and thats a whole different animal.
how does that simulate a mars trip? why do our mars travellers have to be immobile? thats kind of stupid.
No, the guys anecdotes look shiny on the surface, but theyre weak and baseless. he takes a bunch of nice sounding stuff, slaps it together, and calls it history.
the guy is an amateur historian trying to create a controversial re-write of history. considering the chinese didnt reach europe, the logical path of their desire, i doubt they could have crossed the pacific. why dont we see chinese colonies anywhere in the pacific?
im sorry, i should just believe anything that goes against the idea of european accomplishment, because the West are the evil oppressors of the world.
Who else could build a space elevator?
highlift systems is based in the US. i doubt they would build the space elevator outside of the US. i may be biased, but the US would be the best place for it. we are the most advanced nation in terms of our space program and capability.
and i doubt that we'll be seeing many anarchist states. but stealing technology is hardly something to be proud of.
The more funding the better, for highlift. Just a few choice ads in magazines, just to spark business interest, and public interest. a little could get a lot in return.
and heavy patents on CNT would negate the space elevator being copied. If the CNT doesnt get out, the elevator cant be copied.
(5) first: all it would have to do is open a link to a broadcast on a NASA (or w/e the organization is) site. the broadcast would run until you ended it. all the computer has to do is auto-connect to the site, which isnt very hard. might take some custom user options setup at first, but nothing after.
(1)available on both cable and sat. a lot of people only have sat...theres plenty you can do with sat that you cant with cable. but yes, both would be great.
(2)i understand, but i dont know how this would work if theres one camera for X number of people.
(3)sure, why not, we can zoom that deeply.
(4)Perhaps 24/7 broadcast with advertisements on the bottom 5%-10% of the screen. unobtrusive, tactful ads. Just like the size of the NewMars banner. A company could rent out 30 min-1 hour slots to have their banner on the bottom.
(5) already covered.
(1) useful to anyone, anywhere on the planet (2) zoom-able if accessible also on the internet (3) nighttime lights view (4) commercial if necessary (5) as a screen-saver (6) your court, anyone?
(1) Yes, very possible, if they have computers or satellite TVs.
(2)Very hard if real time
(3)i dont quite understand what you mean
(4)sure
(5)not too hard, seti@home does this
i was talking about in terms of humanity and civilization. without a driving product, the economy would suck.
prove me wrong, i really hope someone can show me otherwise.
The problem I see is that Highlift isnt advertising enough. I think the Mars Society should make itself more for-profit. after all, Dr. Zubrins plans are touted as being based on sound economics and profitability.
imho, NASA should be privatized. I have had this idea about several government agencies (transportation, etc.). it would force them to cut the pork and do whats lucrative. get rid of bad contracts, sell space (the government could impose partial regulations on acceptable renters), etc. to make money.
I saw the article. Looks like a bunch of bs to me.
foils, heheh.
nobody said there would be an invasion...
When was the last time you held a steady job, cal?
arent you listening?
the bush plans provide for the top 1%. the middle class gets very little. and those people dont give jobs. why are CEO's getting millions of dollars while their companies are going under?
You claim that it is your religion. i am just gauging the credibility of your claim.
Why cant you look at anything from the perspective of the North Koreans, Pakistanis, etc. Why should they have any less right than us? They should assume that they are inferior?
15%-19% of the top 20% are what we refer to as middle class. they do most of that useful spending, the spending which affects our economy.
the lower 80% doesnt make enough to put the money into the economy. we should cut out the income tax for people making less than $15k . Why do kids working a summer job, and who make more than $750 dollars have to give an income tax? we shouldnt be taking away from these people, we should be keeping the money in the hands of those who cant get by as it is.
Thats why apprenticeship is good. it puts kids right into the workplace. if they drop out, they can be sent back to earth