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#26 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » New Discoveries *2* - ...Extraplanetary, deep space, CONTINUED » 2003-09-26 06:52:35

Wow!  Never heard of that place.  Mars colonization looks more promising every day.

#27 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Using the shuttle's external tanks as spacecraft » 2003-09-26 06:32:27

I hear ya, Tyr!  I wrote a letter to the Space and Science Committee in Congress once.  Of course I didn't receive a reply.  It may be tedious but I do believe that letter writing can help.  I know that there have been numerous petitions for this or that that have been available but I never found out what happened to them.  If I was computer literate and internet savy enough, I would develop a webpage that specifically dedicated to getting attention of NASA and governement.  Probably sounds crazy but you never know!

#28 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » New Discoveries *2* - ...Extraplanetary, deep space, CONTINUED » 2003-09-25 07:24:17

Gamma rays..."Doc Bruce Banner, pelted by gamma rays, turns into the Hulk..."  Sorry I had to get that out.   big_smile

That's something to really think about.  Would there be a way to tell if one is headed towards us?  I guess with as much energy that a gamma burst has we wouldn't have time build cities underground or deep in the ocean where it has been suggested that would be the best place to survive such a burst.

#29 Re: Human missions » Fission Or Fusion Powered Spacecraft - Fission Or Fusion Powered Spacecraft » 2003-09-25 07:11:25

I'm not a rocket scientist (haven't we all said that before) but I don't see why it wouldn't work.  Propellant goes out of the nozzles, ship goes in opposite direction.  Very fast if it was fission or fusion powered.  What material could withstand nuclear blast for a small period of time?  Carbon nanotubes formed into a container?  Quartz?  Here's a good link for starters:  http://www.islandone.org/APC/Nuclear/index.html

#30 Re: Human missions » Mars Mod Update » 2003-09-25 07:03:40

mcschlong,

Great pic.  What program are you using to create these pictures?

#31 Re: Human missions » Martian Exports - What can martians sell? » 2003-09-25 07:01:54

I wonder how much martian sand would go for?  I would be happy with a small test tube size container.  You have someone collect a database of people who have submitted and pre-paid for the sample of Mars.  On the next lander to Mars, have a robotic rover collect a number of vials of sand (Of course it would be better if a human was doing this).  THe samples are placed in a container/capsule built to withstand a splashdown in the ocean.  The container is launched from Mars to Earth.  Once it's collected from the ocean, the organization that has the list of personnel can contact you to either personally pick up your sample or have it mailed to you.  The one problem that I see with this is how much to charge for the sample.  Can someone point me in the right direction to find out?

#33 Re: Human missions » china - manned spaceflight » 2003-09-24 06:38:57

The US will definitely need to launch a Mars Direct type mission to retain it's dominance in space technology.

#34 Re: Space Policy » Dismay With Nasa - Nasa Regresses once again » 2003-09-19 06:57:25

Two Barretts??  Uh-Oh!  :;):   Glad to have you aboard, Ben.  I felt the same way about Mr. O'Keefe.  I used to think that he would get things changed over at NASA but now I'm beginning to change my views about him.  Have you written any letters to NASA or your state congress/senate elected officials?  I know it my sound like a waste of time but it won't hurt.  I also think that unfortunately, it will be 20-30 yrs before we get humans to Mars unless a couple of Bill Gates-type person decides otherwise.  I agree with Free Spirit about the robotic missions.  NASA does excel there.

#35 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Using the shuttle's external tanks as spacecraft » 2003-09-17 06:36:14

These are good websites, Tyr.  Thanks!   Again, I don't understand why this idea is not be developed.  About 80-90% of the hardware is already present.  NASA has already studied this extensively.  I like the idea of using NPR engines on these too.  Heck, I would be happy to see the ETs used with chemical engines.   big_smile   Does anyone know of any books on this subject?  Reading webpages are fun but I don't want to be stuck at my computer all the time either.

#36 Re: Human missions » Mission To Mars Website Open » 2003-09-05 06:22:10

I'm at work right now.  But gave it a quick glance.  It looks very good!  Good job, mcshlong!

#37 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » New Discoveries - Extraplanetary, deep space, etc. » 2003-08-19 19:51:24

You guys are lucky.  I currently live in Nebraska near Omaha and the planetarium here is closed for good!!!!  Although, in Lincoln, their putting a lot of effort into Aug. 27th.  I know of no one around here who is even remotely interested in astronomy.  I have some binoculars but I really can't see anything of interest with them.  Man, I really wanted to actually see Mars through a scope.   sad

#38 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Using the shuttle's external tanks as spacecraft » 2003-08-19 19:44:49

Since the shuttle will not be used that much further into the future, why can't the external tanks (ET) be used as a spacecraft?  I found a website Space Island Group awhile back that proposes using the external tanks to create a space station.  It even has a picture of a tank being used as a spacecraft.     It seems to me that alot of the items that will be needed for Mars Direct could be placed inside one of these and taken along.  Call me crazy but I think this would be a great way for travel to Mars and within the solar system.

#39 Re: Not So Free Chat » SETI@HOME->NEWMARS - Discussion - newmars seti@home team » 2003-07-15 19:48:34

Seth, do you have this team created already?  I started back in April and I have at least 440 WUs.

#41 Re: Human missions » Why haven't we left for Mars? » 2003-07-05 10:17:45

Don't get me started on the ISS!!  A waste of money!  This group has a better idea and they borrowed it from NASA!

www.spaceislandgroup.com

#42 Re: Human missions » Survivor: Mars?  The Mars Channel? - Could TV fund a space mission? » 2003-07-05 10:10:29

I don't think a Mars "reality-tv" show would work.  I do believe that Mars mission show would do well on NASA TV and PBS.  I agree with Cindy and prometheusbound.  Those shows work on people competing against each other and/or who shacking up with who.  Not the ideal place.

#43 Re: Human missions » Nuclear Thermal Rockets - should nuke rockets be used on a mars ms » 2003-07-03 10:29:16

I've thought about that to, prometheusunbound.  I don't recall Dr. Zubrin mentioning the use of NERVA for a Mars mission.  If I remember correctly, he would like to use nuclear propulsion but did not want to wait for the development.  I'm probably quoting him incorrectly.   

I'm all for the use of NERVA or anything that uses nuclear propulsion!  big_smile    It's a shame that it was not developed further.

#44 Re: Water on Mars » H20, where'd it go? - What happened to Marsian water? » 2003-06-30 06:57:19

With this discovery and finding large patches of water ice, there should be no reason why we are not sending human explorers to Mars for permanent colonization!  The technology is here!  But I'm afraid the higher ups are unwilling to have a little backbone on sending real, live, human beings to Mars.

#45 Re: Unmanned probes » NASA Picks Landing Sites for Twin Rovers - Heheh! :) » 2003-06-30 06:48:43

What a bonehead this person was!!  So the weather didn't actually have anything to do with the delay???

#46 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Electric powered engines. » 2003-06-30 06:43:46

This has been one of the most interesting topics in the past couple of weeks!  Keep it up!  I agree with Shaun, wholeheartedly. 

I'm all for nuclear propulsion but Ion propelled and VASMIR is might nice too.     big_smile

#47 Re: Human missions » Magnetic Field » 2003-06-12 06:39:55

I understand not having a "force field" but using something like the M2P2 could get to Mars faster and a side effect is that it can provide some protection from solar flares.  Nothing extra would have to be built.

#49 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » A Party Pooper's Lament - Does he want some cheese with his whine? » 2003-06-05 06:34:23

I was ready to call the author of that article all kinds of insults.  But, I thought why bother.  Although, I do agree with Cindy.  Everyone is on the bandwagon to bash America these days.

#50 Re: Human missions » Magnetic Field » 2003-06-04 10:59:58

Right, I've seen a picture of the storm shelter.  I guess that is good for emergency, but can't solar flares last for a few to several days?  I posted a link here before that show very detailed pictures.  You can move around and look at how the Hab is actually set up.  It is very impressive.  It even has pictures of rovers and ground cars.

http://www.exploremarsnow.org/

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