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The wall of Nasa seem to be coming down slowly though the efforts of alternative space ventures and though the tourist side. At least it sounds like they are getting there monies worth.

Zero-gravity flights go mainstream
U.S. company offers public chance to experience weightlessness

Such flights have long been available for researchers and astronauts from NASA and the French company Novespace, and the Russians took parabolic flight one step further by allowing tourists to buy rides on similarly outfitted IL-76 cargo jets.

But the venture involving Zero Gravity Corp. and Amerijet International, both based in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., is the first to win approval from the Federal Aviation Administration for public parabolic flights in the United States.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5992077/

Broward flights to offer no-gravity experience at $2,950 per flier
By ascending at a roughly 45 degree angle and then diving and ascending again as in a roller coaster, fliers first are brought to Mars-like conditions, or about one-third their weight. Next with another series of parabolas come lunar conditions, about one-sixth their weight.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/busines....s-front

Well if we are using the Shuttle as a model of reusability we have failed and that is just on the orbiter. All the rehab that is done to each is way to much cost after each flight. Eliminating the larger portion of the cost of refurbishment is a must under reuseable ships.

But it seems like all the middle of the road jobs are the ones being outsourced. Everything from IT, Manufacturing, assembly and technicians. Where the low end wage earner was around the 8 to 10 an hour not the minimum of 5.15 like they are forced to take to survive. These are the only jobs not outsourced, which are service oriented, not high skilled and not requiring of educational knowledge.

The wall of Nasa seem to be coming down slowly though the efforts of alternative space ventures and though the tourist side. At least it sounds like they are getting there monies worth.

Zero-gravity flights go mainstream
U.S. company offers public chance to experience weightlessness

Such flights have long been available for researchers and astronauts from NASA and the French company Novespace, and the Russians took parabolic flight one step further by allowing tourists to buy rides on similarly outfitted IL-76 cargo jets.

But the venture involving Zero Gravity Corp. and Amerijet International, both based in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., is the first to win approval from the Federal Aviation Administration for public parabolic flights in the United States.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5992077/

Broward flights to offer no-gravity experience at $2,950 per flier
By ascending at a roughly 45 degree angle and then diving and ascending again as in a roller coaster, fliers first are brought to Mars-like conditions, or about one-third their weight. Next with another series of parabolas come lunar conditions, about one-sixth their weight.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/busines....s-front

Well the E in EELV is expendable in that we do not care what happens with it and even though An SRB is reusuable should we care about that feature, probably not.

As for the launch pad cost what quantity difference is there for a launch of the EELV versus the SRB booster design?

Is it not cheaper per launch if those people are actually working not idle, more launches per time period lower cost.

It might be possible from the SRB booster unit to have more launches since build time would be by far less than EELV continuing to lower cost.

In a strapped economic budget period, what ever that works for a given cost that is important not just if it is cheap.

Is this the only way to get private industry involved in the vision though property rights.

Whether and how property rights are accomplished could be the difference between a settled Moon or an unsettled one.
This might even be the show stopper for Mars, do to the more expense infrastucture.

As you noted by creating a new topic for SRB booster for CEV. It is important to get this first step right. Using atlas or delta rocket which are not man rated every with the argument of high success rate just will not do. Partly because a full analysis and possible redesign would mean that it might not be so successful not to mention costing billions.

It appears that the builders of spaceshipone are out to garantee that they do not fall short of the entry into space. SpaceShipOne Rocket Engine Gets an Upgrade while only
20 % more fuel it still is enough to do the job.

http://space.com/missionlaunches/xprize … 40913.html

While everyone is bracing for the one two punch there are those that are looking to make them just go away. Not as crazy as chasing them but just as strange...

Groups Work on Schemes to Stop Hurricanes
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm....e_cures

Chrysler was sort of pyramid shaped, very simple design concept.
The starclipper design sort of scares me though for when the external tanks are jetisoned.
Boeing's SLI like everything else sort of cancelled or in limbo after the space exploration announcement.

Can we at present take the Dna code and recreate life from it, well not at present so any noah's ark style of plan will still be with living subjects. which means offsprings eventually and mutations not of this world as well.

I guess with that design in mind, how long must we wait for the upper stage and capsule design to be finished? Can it be leverage from existing projects and or demonstartors? Such as the escape tower project. ect...