New Mars Forums

Well for those up late the Rosewell show the alien attack is showing on the scifi channel here in NH.

Well the budget year for 2005 has come and passed now with a modest increase over the proceeding year. With the goals that were put forth one would expect an equal or simular amount of increase in all future years to aid or speed up the chance for success.

Expect tight budgets, president warns federal agencies with a flat budget or just barely inflation rate. Then how can we achieve the goal with that level of funding. Some corners or projects will most likely be cancelled or serverely delayed IMO. Or will cooperation with other nations be the buzz word for the next decade enroute back to the moon.

So that would mean you would throw away your car just be cause it will need more maintenance later? ???

NEW SPACECRAFT FLIES TO SPACE STATION

You mean like in stop dumping it into our oceans and atmospheric burn ups.
Seems like we could do better than that.

Mars reconnaissance mission hits milestone Camera is mounted on orbiter, readied for August launch

Gee I thought that the rovers were doing a good job at that?

They make it sound like they do not know which sites they want to investigate first.

Well it sure takes a long time to get things done. It even took since the 7th to just put the camera in.

Excellent planning ahead for comunicational needs.

Yup that would be part of the logistics of going from research and science to be a colony that is self suffiecient.

Ok so doing manufacturing of products are dependent on resources and cost to mars orbit for mass of item. Use what you have taken with you and turn that into useful items to jump start manufacturing processes.

Example food containers and other such packaging: shred and melt to form plastic sheets, if materials are available make plastic solar cells, Make plastic tubing lots of different stuff can be made from this waste items..

Looks like some of the first items need to include a furnace or some sort of smelting oven. This same tool can also be used to make glass from the regolith and the list goes on and on for what it can do.

The water line I was thinking of was sub surface rather than open to the elements but that would come very late in terms of development unless robotically done. Simple pvc pipe probably would do but that would be hard to make with the insitu available materials.
But you are thinking in the right direction to make things reuseable and not discard them just because you chose to land in a different area of mars in order to do more science.

Makes sense creating a network of methane pipes to provide the resource much needed. Similar to the power grid here on Earth.

Maybe as well there should also be a solar power or a nuclear power grid and possibly a water line as well.

Well it is either this thread or the other or maybe both in fact I will post in both on how can russia turn its military missile into space ready vehicles. I know they feel safe, that they are no longer being threaten by the US or any of its allies.

To easy Nasa's budget maybe the military should do like kind as the russians have done. Changing weapons into something that can do good instead of distruction.

Russians harness Cold War demons for space

Military plans test launch of ICBM from Russian missile silo,
as part of peaceful space strategy.

Just maybe it is time to convert some of them also. :;):

While not an xprize idea balloons have been thought of being used for lots of applications. Even the military has had a few thoughts on owning the skys by there presense. It has even been used for other such platforms to view the stars above. While this one is to make a buck from not launching satelites to geo orbit.

Not quite out of this world

Telecommunications: After years of hype, a new, cheaper way to blanket cities with wireless coverage may finally be about to get off the ground.

Great stuff from these tiny robots but still no fossils. But even if there where clear cut evidence of one how would we argue on if it were life or just some geological oddity.
This same but simular arguement rages on for how long ago did life spring up here on earth. Can we ever answer the questions without mans presence on that redish planet or will we conclude that there can be no life there and that there never was? I hope that is not the case.
Study Resolves Doubt About Origin Of Earth's Oldest Rocks

Sort of reminds me of the mars meteorites...