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Louis,, Musk is planning FAR MORE
There is life on Mars and it was there when the Viking Lander dug it up and more recently when the Phoenix Lander dug it up
say this is confirmed
can you explain what the consequences would be? I'm not sure how this assists whether there was life on Mars or not, please clarify
By Nina Golgowski PUBLISHED:01:46, 27 November 2012| UPDATED:13:41, 27 November 2012
An ambitious billionaire has revealed his plans to colonise Mars - and charge 80,000 brave souls $500,000 to be flown there.
Elon Musk, the billionaire founder and CEO of the private spaceflight company SpaceX, has announced his vision for life on the Red Planet.
He says the settlement plan would start small, with a pioneering group of fewer than 10 people, who he would take there on a reusable rocket powered by liquid oxygen and methane.
Musk, already the first private space entrepreneur to launch a successful mission to the International Space Station this spring, says what would begin by first sending less than 10 people could blossom 'into something really big.'
A futuristic design of a protective dome on Mars shows a similar idea to Musk's that would be transparent and pressurized with CO2 allowing Mars' soil to grow life-sustaining crops
'At Mars, you can start a self-sustaining civilization and grow it into something really big,' he told the Royal Aeronautical Society in London last week while awarded the society’s gold medal for his contribution to the commercialization of space.
Laying out precise details and figures to his 'difficult' but 'possible' plans, the space pioneer says the first ferry of explorers would be no more than 10 people at a price tag of $500,000 (£312,110) per ticket.
'The ticket price needs to be low enough that most people in advanced countries, in their mid-forties or something like that, could put together enough money to make the trip,' he said.
Just a day after US President Barack Obama was re-elected, rumours began to fly that he will back NASA plans to build a hovering moon base. This lunar outpost would be parked in orbit, about 60,000 kilometres from the moon's far side, in a gravitational haven called a Lagrange point.
There, the combined gravity of Earth and the moon would tug on a spacecraft with exactly the force needed for it to hover near the moon without spending fuel. Putting a spaceport at the Earth-moon Lagrange point 2 (EML-2) might assist human missions to an asteroid or to Mars – both on the list of NASA goals Obama announced in 2010.
Buzz about NASA's vision for an EML-2 outpost has been swirling since September, when the Orlando Sentinel newspaper obtained documents detailing how such a craft could be built using parts left over from the International Space Station.
NASA has probably already cleared plans for the craft with the Obama administration, space policy expert John Logsdon of George Washington University in Washington DC told Space.com on 7 November, and has been waiting until after the election to announce them.
what do you think? sounds great!! READ MORE
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildli … razil.html I do not understand why scientists are so determined to clone animals
Can anyone tell me why they want to do this? No doubt they secretly want to clone human beings as well
I am just baffled
WHY? ok so they clone a Jaguar ...... AND?
http://www.astronomynow.com/news/n1211/15rogue/ drifting through interstellar space without a star of its own to orbit, has been discovered a hundred light years from Earth. If confirmed, it will be the first of its kind to be proven to exist - and there may be billions more like it out there.
Astronomers have discovered a planet orbiting a nearby sun at just the right distance for an Earth-like climate that could support life.
The planet, which orbits a star 42 light years away, sits in the so-called Goldilocks Zone, the band around a sun where temperatures are neither too hot nor too cold for liquid water to exist.
'The star HD 40307 is a perfectly quiet old dwarf star, so there is no reason why such a planet could not sustain an Earth-like climate,' said Guillem Angla-Escude from Germany's University of Goettingen.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ … z2C954V1gk
Quite impressive that University research can lead to discoveries like this but 42 light years? might as well be on the other side of the Universe!
Terraformer has your mother read it by now and what is she getting you this Christmas?
there are some pretty interesting images on this page, shame about the flickr busts but the one with the comment "Next Image, possible lake?" from Vincent intrigues me
Vincent after 4 years (since posted) anymore thoughts on that "Lake"?
also Vincent can we have some words on the photo above please
Is the human species doomed to intellectual decline? Will our intelligence ebb away in centuries to come leaving our descendants incapable of using the technology their ancestors invented? In short: will Homo be left without his sapiens?
This is the controversial hypothesis of a leading geneticist who believes that the immense capacity of the human brain to learn new tricks is under attack from an array of genetic mutations that have accumulated since people started living in cities a few thousand years ago
yes living in cities you Neanderthals READ MORE AND WEEP
I would wager that if an average citizen from Athens of 1000BC were to appear suddenly among us, he or she would be among the brightest and most intellectually alive of our colleagues and companions, with a good memory, a broad range of ideas and a clear-sighted view of important issues!!
Hi everyone,
does anyone of you play the "Mars Simulation Project" ( http://mars-sim.sourceforge.net )?
hey they have a FB group!! http://www.facebook.com/groups/125541663548/
sounds good to me, I would also be interested
it can be found easily but that is not the point
Facebook is a quick fix, less effort, less commitment
so many stronger rival sites exist now like facebook?
so many? well Twitter and Facebook really, that's all it takes - people also prefer putting their time into their mobile phones e.g. sending and receiving text messages, than spending the same time participating on a forum
well after the 2nd patch ExtraTerrestrials plays superbly, no crashes and immense longevity - sequels not required, the game stands on it's own
ok it doesn't look anything like the new ENEMY UNKNOWN - nowhere near as sensational either but it certainly has it's moments and a superb learning curve too
I have been playing it since 2008 and have started over about 10 times because I just love it (mind you, without the 2nd patch you would be in trouble) and they ARE putting out a sequel "this fall"
what are you playing?
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the- … -tourettes The story of how a group of teenage girls in a small American town (leRoy) suddenly developed what appeared to be Tourette's syndrome
Wow, that is scary, anybody see the TV programme?
According to Zubrin, the Obama administration intends to terminate NASA's planetary exploration program.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. But Zubrin names no source. "Word has leaked out" is the foundation of his claim. In my eyes, this lessens Zubrin's credibility.
have you seen the comments? http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 … qus_thread great reading
can't Curiosity enter the caves?
The director of Nasa's Mars exploration programme has spoken of hopes that one day the rover Curiosity might be brought back to Earth by astronauts.
Doug McCuistion said it was his personal hope that humans would visit the Red Planet in the 2030s or 2040s.
He said he could imagine astronauts walking up to Curiosity.
McCuistion said the roving laboratory's mission was scheduled to last two years, but it could have enough power for 20 years.
The Nasa chief set out his vision during a satellite link up with Glenelg in the Scottish Highlands at the weekend.
talking of Mars Society president Dr Robert Zubrin - what is HIS reaction to the proposed Mars One "mission" - has he commented anybody know?
Vincent there is a problem with your video
This video contains content from EMI, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.
YOUTUBE is just so tetchy nowadays
Julie Walters
Julie Walters saw a ghost in her room when she was at college and she was asked about this when interviewed by (Andrew Wiliams) THE METRO today
The point is what is a "ghost" ? Julie Walters is a respected person in the public domain, why should she say this if it wasn't true? Is she looking to bring ridicule upon herself? Or just telling us something that actually happened to her?
Mauro Dolce was convicted along with his colleagues
A team of Italian scientists has been found guilty of manslaughter for failing to warn citizens of a huge earthquake in 2009.
The team, along with a government official, were jailed for six years in a trial which has infuriated the global scientific community.
Historic buildings cracked and crumbled in the 6.3 magnitude quake in which 309 died and thousands were left homeless in the town of L'Aquila in central Italy.
Rob thanks for your great replies
Mars One states they will CCTV the lot and this presents me with another query, especially as they assert it is all a one way ticket: 1 of the 4 astronauts - a few weeks into the "Terraforming on Mars" looks into the camera in his Mars Pod and starts crying that he wants to come back to Earth he can't stand it anymore and it's all been a big mistake, if he doesn't get an asssurance that he will get returned to Earth he will jump off the nearest Cliff
what do you think? ok it's unlikely but actually the more weeks and months go by. the less unlikely it gets
interesting to read that article dated 2006
at the end of it all 6 years have gone by and what has changed?