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#1 Re: Pictures of Mars » Images from India's Mars Orbiter Mission » 2014-10-17 17:49:37

Olympus Mons, along with Arsia, Pavonis and Ascraeus. The Valles Marineris can also be seen:

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#3 Re: Pictures of Mars » Images from India's Mars Orbiter Mission » 2014-10-07 20:58:00

Another pic from ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission, featuring the Elysiumm volcanic region

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#5 Re: Pictures of Mars » Images from India's Mars Orbiter Mission » 2014-09-29 19:04:20

India's MOM has sent back a picture of Mars in full glory:

http://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c25/Imagega … ges.aspx#2

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A large dust storm can be seen in the upper left of the image, which was taken from 74500km out.

Because of its unique elongated orbit, MOM is able to take pictures of the red planet in its entirety in a way that other spacecraft from Earth aren't able to do.

#6 Pictures of Mars » Images from India's Mars Orbiter Mission » 2014-09-27 17:27:53

sanman
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Here are the first couple of images ISRO has released to the public:

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The first image is, ironically, of the Indus Vallis.

#7 Re: Unmanned probes » India's Mission to Mars » 2014-09-27 16:37:30

Hi all - haven't logged in here in awhile - just thought I'd post the latest news on the success of India's Mars Orbiter Mission. MOM has successfully achieved orbit around Mars:

https://www.facebook.com/isromom

Here are the latest pics, and I'm sure there'll be more to come:

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The mission was planned to have a life of 6 months, but that may be extended due to the fact that the orbiter arrived at Mars with more fuel left over than anticipated.


https://twitter.com/MarsOrbiter/status/ … 2417302528

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#8 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Mars Economic Activity » 2013-03-31 17:40:19

The most valuable things in a Martian economy will be the things most in demand - air, water, food, energy (basically the equipment that produces them, and also stores them)

People will also want living space - mere real estate isn't good enough. You need enclosed habitable living living space on your real estate in order to make use of it.

Electric vehicles, resource harvesting equipment, robots and of course space suits, without which your freedom of activity may be severely limited.

#9 Re: Human missions » Space X - first 11 years » 2013-03-30 22:50:01

I really hope they blaze a trail to Mars (but not blaze a train, since that would be a waste of hardware)

I read that Musk says they plan their first reusable landing on land in 2014 next year - holy smokes!
Once they cross that threshold, the pace of space flights could drastically increase. Even Musk himself has said so.

That would likewise mean the pace of technological advancement will similarly increase. We're on the cusp of a whole new technological evolutionary curve. If that video is how good SpaceX's first 11 years have been, I'm dying to see what the next 11 years will bring from them.

#10 Re: Terraformation » Thicker Atmosphere vs Surface Lighting Conditions » 2013-03-29 18:41:27

So you feel that conditions will be just as bright on the Martian surface as they are now, as with an Earth-like atmosphere. So if terraforming could somehow be achieved, it wouldn't leave us all stumbling around in the dark.

#11 Terraformation » Thicker Atmosphere vs Surface Lighting Conditions » 2013-03-29 11:31:57

sanman
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So theoretically, if Mars were to suddenly gain an Earth-like atmosphere, then what would the impact be on the surface lighting conditions? How much light would be making it to the surface? Would noontime at the surface have the same low level of light as dusk on Earth?

It would be neat to have a little web-based Mars terraformation simulator. It would show one of these Curiosity Rover panorama scenes, and as you adjusted various physical parameters thru web-controls, the scene would change accordingly. I think that would be a cool thing to get people more interested in Mars.

#12 Re: Terraformation » Recent superconductor news and it's importance in terraforming » 2013-03-24 16:11:53

What's the main importance of having a magnetic field again? I thought it's mainly to stop the solar wind, but of course this only erodes the atmosphere on geologic timescales. When it comes to protection against cosmic rays, isn't simply having a thick atmosphere good enough?

#13 Re: Terraformation » Terraformation by Asteroid Impactor » 2013-02-25 09:18:14

Comet C/2013 A1 is believed to have a small chance of colliding with Mars in October of 2014:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C/2013_A1

So this would be a potential cometary impactor rather than an asteroid impactor.
If an event of this type were to occur, it could release upto 19 billion megatons of energy.

While the chance of such a collision is small, what if that probability could be increased by a small nudge?

What would the effects be?

#14 Re: Human missions » Inspiration Mars Foundation » 2013-02-25 01:15:21

Yo dude, have no fear, I am here! Plenty of chatting going on about this on sites like nasaspaceflight.com, etc.

Yeah, so as I was saying on the other sites, if Tito goes with SpaceX, he'd better go with Bigelow too. Because there's no way he could do a Mars flyby squeezed into a Dragon for the whole journey. You'd probably suffer some serious deterioration cooped up for such a long trip without decent room to exercise in.

I think you'd want to go with Bigelows largest BA-2100 Olympus hab, to use that for the voyage. It has 3 decks and 2100m3 of volume. And actually, once Falcon Heavy is already out there, if Musk is able to field that rumored MCT rocket with its even larger lift capacity, then I'd bet Bigelow would come up with an even bigger hab to max out its payload. Musk is the best way to get you to space, but once you're there, Bigelow is the best way to spend the rest of the trip. They'd probably need to keep a Dragon attached for the final Earth re-entry, though.

#15 Terraformation » Terraformation by Asteroid Impactor » 2013-02-03 11:26:30

sanman
Replies: 14

Could we smack a suitable asteroid into Mars in just the right way, in order to speed up terraformation?

I was thinking of a metal impactor like the one which hit Earth -- but of appropriately tuned size -- in the hopes of jump-starting Mars' core to give it a stronger magnetosphere.

The resulting volcanic ash and gas which would be thrown up into the atmosphere could also boost atmospheric pressure. The increased heat flux would also help with core dynamics for boosting the magnetosphere. The Martian albedo would also decrease to improve solar radiation absorption. The overall surface temperature would rise, with less severe temperature swings due to buffering by the thicker atmosphere.

Sure, there would be massive disruption of the crust, but some parts would stabilize more quickly than others.

We would quickly start seeding the atmosphere with bacteria, in order to take advantage of the improved temperature and pressure conditions near the surface. With the surface experiencing greater turbulence and turmoil, it would help any proliferating bacteria to spread faster.

What do you think?

#16 Youth Group / Educational Outreach » PlanetFour Website for Mars Image Analysis » 2013-01-15 20:04:40

sanman
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Apparently, there's another Zooniverse type of website that's been launched, to allow ordinary people to look at the flood of Mars images to pick out useful features from them for researchers to later examine:

http://www.gizmag.com/planet-four-analyze-mars/25801/

Looks pretty interesting, if people want to check it out.

#17 Re: Terraformation » Scavenging Asteroids to Terraform Mars » 2013-01-04 06:12:12

Hmm, but it would seem too energetically expensive to lift large amounts of anything off Titan. Why not just look for frozen ammonia chunks in the asteroid belt nearby? It would be nice if we could scavenge ammonia from Saturn's rings, but its gravity makes that energetically expensive. If we could find ammonia sources nearby Mars which are easy to get, then wouldn't it be worth it to drop them onto Mars?

It seems to me that Mars needs lots of ammonia. We need nitrogen for life, and Mars seems low on it - especially if we want an Earth-like atmosphere. How else can we get ammonia? The Kuiper belt maybe? But again that's quite a long distance away. If there were large quantities of ammonia available in the asteroid belt, I'd be inclined to go for that.

#18 Terraformation » Scavenging Asteroids to Terraform Mars » 2013-01-03 22:27:41

sanman
Replies: 5

Could we use materials from the asteroid belt nearby to terraform Mars?

Which types of asteroids would we want and for what benefits?

I'm thinking that if Saturn's rings are made from ammonia chunks, then there might similarly be some ammonia chunks in the asteroid belt near Mars. If we could hurl some of those ammonia rocks at Mars, then it could help increase the nitrogen content in the atmosphere and on the surface, so that we could use it for agriculture.

What are everyone's thoughts on this?

#19 Life support systems » Caves as Initial Footholds on Mars » 2013-01-03 21:24:07

sanman
Replies: 78

How can we find caves on Mars? What remote sensing technologies should we use to do this?

The earliest human ancestors didn't start out building their own hovels with thatched roofs. They lived in caves, making use of existing natural features for safe dwelling. Logically, during the early period of Mars settlement, such natural features could be very invaluable, and save on effort in building or bringing in your own shelter.

What would be the ideal types of caves that would be most useful for our needs? What kinds of features should we look for to identify such ideal caves?

Once we identify the best possible caves to make use of, then what would we need to do to convert these natural formations into robust living accommodations, in the most efficient way with the least effort and quickest turnaround?

What would we have to bring with us from Earth in order to accomplish this?

#20 Martian Chronicles » The Martian by Andy Weir » 2013-01-03 19:05:36

sanman
Replies: 2

Andy Weir has published an interesting novel called The Martian, whose story takes place on Mars.

You can go to Andy Weir's website, and you'll see the link for it about half-way down the page:

http://www.galactanet.com/writing.html

Read it and post your opinions. A lot of people have said they've enjoyed it.

#21 Terraformation » Living Mars » 2013-01-03 09:16:25

sanman
Replies: 1

Someone has combined real data with some artistic license to create images of what Mars might have looked like in its ancient past - or what it could look like in the future if terraformed:

http://www.universetoday.com/99248/new- … ving-mars/

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#22 Re: Terraformation » Methods of terraforming - How to go from bone dry & lifeless » 2012-05-28 00:48:11

Why import nitrogen from Titan? Just grab those ammonia chunks that make up Saturn's rings and keep hurling them at Mars

#24 Unmanned probes » India's Mission to Mars » 2012-02-23 23:02:40

sanman
Replies: 4

The Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) will send an orbital spacecraft to Mars

http://www.asianscientist.com/topnews/i … anet-2013/

http://www.asianscientist.com/features/ … -prl-2012/

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes … ed-mission

Said Goswami: "Our plan envisages imaging Mars only through an orbiter. We have no immediate plans for a landing mission."

#25 Unmanned probes » Question - What's the Smallest Re-Entry Vehicle Possible? » 2012-02-23 22:14:25

sanman
Replies: 6

Hi everyone,

I have a question - what's the smallest unmanned entry vehicle possible for descent from Martian orbit to the surface using an aeroshield and parachute?
What kind of mass and dimensions would be feasible for a minimal payload?
Do you think 10cm wide is too small? How about 5cm wide?
5 kg? 2 kg?

What's the smallest you can go, before weird problems of slipstream turbulence and cross-winds cause too much difficulty in targeting a landing zone?
The landing zone I was thinking of was a fairly large one - the Hellas Basin - and so I'd imagine it wouldn't be too hard to hit from a polar orbit.

The payload merely has to be able to measure ambient atmospheric pressure and water humidity on the surface in Hellas Basin.

Any useful feedback is appreciated.

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