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#1 2001-09-11 11:43:27
- GOM
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Re: September 11, 2001 "Day of Infamy II"....
This is too awful for words.
Our lives will be changed forever.
Mars will probably get pushed into the background. Sadly.
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#2 2001-09-11 13:12:16
Re: September 11, 2001 "Day of Infamy II"....
It is awful, and it won't be forgotten for a very long time. But it doesn't mean that Mars will be pushed into the background, as much as space was pushed into the background after WW2. If Mars gets pushed into the background, what else will?
The world has suffered many terrible tragedies yet for some incredibly reason, we still have hope and we still have dreams.
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#3 2001-09-12 11:19:09
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Re: September 11, 2001 "Day of Infamy II"....
The world has suffered many terrible tragedies yet for some incredibly reason, we still have hope and we still have dreams.
Well, one of the reasons that I am called the Grumpy Old Man is that I remember watching our astronauts walking around on the Moon back in '69.
Since then what have we really done in terms of manned space flight?
Not much, imo.
Right now we have one extremely expensive ISS flying loops around the planet....
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#4 2001-09-12 16:18:11
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Well, one of the reasons that I am called the Grumpy Old Man is that I remember watching our astronauts walking around on the Moon back in '69.
Well, that would explain it then, wouldn't it? 
j/k
But seriously, yes, I can imagine how frustrating it must be to have seen the first and land moon landings of the 20th century. Believe me, I've read enough hard SF by people like Baxter to have a good appreciation of what we could have achieved.
However, the Apollo Programme was by all accounts one #### of an expensive project, never mind all the lucrative spinoffs and science. And let's face it, it didn't really do that much, did it? Flag and footprints and all that.
What I would have liked to have seen during the 80s and 90s was the development of a second generation Shuttle which would have reduced costs significantly. Maybe not tenfold, but by enough to, say, at least triple Shuttle operations and to reduce turnaround time. We should be developing a third generation RLV by now.
I forget what exactly was the point of this post now because I've spent the last four hours writing in (in between I had a phone call) but I think you see what I mean.
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#5 2001-09-16 21:14:13
- John Creighton
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Re: September 11, 2001 "Day of Infamy II"....
Turning Towards Earth
Our goal ultimately is to benefit humanity. The mars society is a forward looking organization. In times of uncertainty and instability it becomes important to look at the present as well as the future. A new war has begun and pacifists aren't welcome. Afghanistan stated they will go to war against, any nation who supports the U.S. in any efforts to launch an attack against Afghanistan. The U.S. and Russia both said this is not terrorism this is an act of war. In the NATO documents it says an attack against one member of NATO is an attack against all members of NATO. Nukes are not only held by NATO and Russia. Pakistan, Kazakstan, China and India also have nukes.
I don't claim to be a sooth sayer and the politics of the day are far too complicated for me to grasp every subtle detail that might influence future events. However, when what is at stake is the survival of perhaps all vertebra's on earth, it becomes our responsibility to be prudent. In this spirt of caution and responsibility I call upon the Mars Society to become the Shepards of the earth, and lead the species that our closest to us away from the wolves of war.
In this day our responsibilities of a Shepard do not entail the construction of a space ship. Rather the entail the implantation and development of infrastructure necessary for the survival of man, his culture and closest relatives on earth during and after a nuclear war.
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#6 2006-01-22 23:38:51
- RIZ4ROCKET
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Re: September 11, 2001 "Day of Infamy II"....
In this day our responsibilities of a Shepard do not entail the construction of a space ship. Rather the entail the implantation and development of infrastructure necessary for the survival of man, his culture and closest relatives on earth during and after a nuclear war.
Wow, even back then you were...
Well, you know.
Hay lookit what happened ! Really, on behalf of the humanity that survived this potential nuclear holocaust, I'd like to thank you for being the voice of moderation that "Sheparded" us to reason.
Thank god for you, and for people like you, that are willing to completely sacrifice the efforts at space exploration every single time the survival of the human race is threatened.
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